Antichrist will be an idol shepherd in Israel

[R. Hartono]

Zechariah 11 :6 For, lo, I will raise up a shepherd in the land, which shall not visit those that be cut off, neither shall seek the young one, nor heal that that is broken, nor feed that that standeth still: but he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and tear their claws in pieces.

¹⁷ Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock ! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

 

The Shepherd attribute shows that antichrist comes from religious background and will lead Israel and the world from Jerusalem, well versed in Bible, he looked trustworthy and peacefull and able to settle disputes or clashes between nations, conquering the world with peace covenants, especially the 7 years ceasefire between Israel-Arab enemies and settle other wars of the globe. Therefore people of the world will proclaim "peace and safety", then sudden destruction will strike after the short period of peace.

Of course with the power of global bankers supporting him with thousand trillion of dollars for recovery of the ruin of nations by wars of their Great Reset, that paralyze nations. So the nations of the world will beg for the loan to rebuild their ruin and will give full support at the UN to vote him to lead ONE WORLD ORDER on whatever conditions stipulated, including the global acceptance of the 666 mark of the beast which promise security, efficiency and great future.

The world can see the antichrist now but they will not realize that is him until the day he is empowered by the dragon.

Revelation 13 ⁴ And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him ?

As he will recover from a deadly wound probably by political enemies that resist his ambition, he just cannot be stopped as God allow it.

Revelation 13 ³ And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

As it shows, that one eyed figure will lead the NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM :

 

Edited April 21, 2023 by R. Hartono

[Dennis1209]

I think your thoughts are plausible. We are very close to the New World Order (Great Reset), coming from the United Nations through Agenda 2030 and the initiation. It is no secret that a few countries and world banks are experimenting with an electronic banking system (cashless) and switching.

Before the Antichrist gains complete control, he does not just arrive on the scene and say, “I am the man; I am taking over from here.” I surmise he will have a successful track record of accomplishments and negotiations. I suspect he will rise from the ranks and possibly become President of the European Union or Secretary General of the United Nations (the establishment).

I wonder if the established Abraham Accords will participate in these peace agreements.

At any rate, everything prophetic for our time is shaping up faster than anyone can report, and we are the generation witnessing all these things coming about.

[R. Hartono]

@Dennis1209 

The 3rd and 4th seal of Revelation has actually revealed their agenda of the Great Reset, destroying economy and peace stability what else but by provoking great war ?, as Jesus said this hour of Trials that will come to all inhabitant of the world. That will bring the beast and false prophet to rule by all means of destruction and global deception, as soon as the dragon banished from heaven. 

 

[Dennis1209]

13 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

@Dennis1209 

The 3rd and 4th seal of Revelation has actually revealed their agenda of the Great Reset, destroying economy and peace stability what else but by provoking great war ?, as Jesus said this hour of Trials that will come to all inhabitant of the world. That will bring the beast and false prophet to rule by all means of destruction and global deception, as soon as the dragon banished from heaven. 

 

You bet, and we are seeing it now.

[Shilohsfoal]

Antichrist is already in Israel.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/13/christians-are-in-danger-under-israeli-government-says-holy-land-patriarch

 

As more and more christians In Israel are persecuted,the more antichrist will be understood.

Perhaps after Benjamin netanyahu passes laws for his cashless society,more people will recognize it 

Edited April 22, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[HAZARD]

 

The Antichrist may be alive today, either a baby, young boy, or older as someone being a member of a political party, Scripture does say, "a king of fierce counternance would rise," so we can expect him to be a king of a particular country. And the times seem right in my humble opinion.

The book of Daniel makes it clear that the Antichrist will come from the ten kingdoms of the Old Roman Empire, as in Dan. 7:7-8, 23-24, and from the four divisions of the Grecian Empire, which are four of the ten, as in Dan. 8:7-9, 20-23, but it also makes it clear that he will come from the Syrian division of the four divisions of Greece, as taught in Dan. 11. The king of the north of this chapter is Syria, and the king of the south is Egypt. Wars between these two divisions of Greece are pictures in Dan. 11:5-34. Verses 35-45 portray war between these same two kingdoms "at the time of the end," showing the result of the last war between them. It states that the land of Egypt shall not escape the king of the north in this last war, thus identifying Syria as being the country from which the Antichrist must come. If the king of the North was Russia, as many Bible students now teach how could Dan 11:44 be fulfilled? What countries are north of Russia that could fight against her, as required by this verse? I even had one minister argue that America is north of Russia. I had a little difficulty explaining to him that America was south of the North Pole, and not north of Russia, and Russia was also south of the North Pole. He eventually agreed. Geography was his weak point.


When Alexander the Great died, his empire was divided into four parts which can be seen by consulting history books. In Dan. 8:9 it states, "Out of one of them," that is, out of one of these four divisions of the Grecian Empire the "little horn" would come, and this is explained in verse 23 as being in the latter time of the existence of these four kingdoms a king of fierce countenance would rise. The four kingdoms of Dan. 8 will make four of the ten of Dan. 7, and the purpose of this chapter over Dan. 7 is to narrow the coming of the Antichrist geographicly from the ten kingdoms to four of the ten, so we can definately say that he will not come from any country outside of these four kingdoms.


Here's the good news, He will definately not come from America, or even rule America, or even be a world wide dictator as many teach and believe, although his wars in the middle east will cause disruption in world wide trade, oil etc. Scripture shows he will only reign over ten kingdoms that will yet be formed inside the Old Roman Empire territory (Dan. 7:23-24).


Only these ten kingdoms will give their power and kingdoms to him (Rev. 13:1; 17:12-17).


Certain countries WILL ESCAPE his rule (Dan. 11:40-44).


Certain countries will make war on him at the very time he is supposed to be ruling the whole world (Read Dan. 11:40-44). If he was ruling the whole world this could not happen. Because he will rule and reign only over ten countries inside the Old Roman Empire territory, and because America never was or ever will be inside that territory, and because certain countries escape the antichrist, we can Scripturally conclude and be at ease that he will not come from, or rule America, or even be a world wide dictator.


Hundreds of millions of people will never take his mark either. We have seen that many nations will not be under his rule, so naturally people in these countries, America included, will not have to take his mark and they will therefore not be killed. The Bible teaches that many peoples of "all nations," that are left after the reign of the Antichrist, people who will be alive in the Millennium and will go up yearly to worship God (Read Zech 14:16-21). This again further limits the kingdoms of the Antichrist to only a part of the world and limits his ability to kill everyone who does not take the mark, even in his own empire. According to Revelation 14:9-11, no one who has taken the mark will go into the Millennium, but will be sent to eternal Hell. That multitudes go into the Millennium proves they have not taken the mark of the beast and have not been killed. If the Antichrist ruled the entire world as many people believe, and he killed everyone who did not take his mark, and the Lord Jesus sends to Hell everyone who has taken the antichrists mark, then there would be not one person left to enter the Millennium? And this would be contrary to Zech. 14:16-21; Matt. 25:31-46; Isa. 2:1-4 and many Scriptures.


THE ANTICHRIST WHO IS A MAN,  will reign over only ten kingdoms that are yet to be formed inside the yet to be revived, Old Roman Empire. (Dan. 7:23-24). Only these ten kingdoms will give their power and kingdoms to him. (Rev.13:1; 17:12-17). Certain countries will escape his rule (Dan.11:40-44). Certain countries will make war on him at the very time he is supposed to be ruling the whole world (Dan. 11:40-44). Because he will reign only over ten countries inside the Roman Empire territory and because America is not inside that territory and never will be, and because certain countries will escape him we can scripturally conclude that he will never rule America or be a world-wide dictator. Therefore, multitudes of people of many nations will also never take the mark of the beast and they will never be killed by the Antichrist for not doing so.



The Bible speaks of many peoples of many nations that are left after the reign of the Antichrist, people who will be alive in the Millennium and will go up yearly to worship God (Zech. 14:16-21). This further limits the kingdom of the Antichrist to only part of the world and also limits his ability to kill everyone who does not take the mark even in his own empire. According to Rev. 14:9-11 no one who has taken the mark will go into the Millennium, but will be sent to eternal Hell.
 

That multitudes go into the Millennium proves they have not taken the mark of the beast and have not been killed, as taught by many Bible students. If the Antichrist were to kill every person who does not take his mark, and God sends to Hell everyone who does take the mark, then there would be not one person left to enter the Millennium. Also, The mark of the beast will not be 666. There are three brands men will have a choice of taking in the days of the Antichrist inside his kingdom. They are his name, his mark, AND THE NUMBER OF HIS NAME  (Rev. 13:16-18). The name and mark of this man is not given in scripture; so no one will know what they are until he comes and men get to know what his name and mark will be, and what he will chose to put on his followers. The only one of these three brands that is given is the number of his name, and that is stated as being 666 in Rev. 13:18. So 666 is not the name or the mark of the beast. It is the number of the beast.

 

The Antichrist will be a future mortal man, nothing more. That he will be a mortal man is clear from (Rev. 13:18). That he will be a mortal man is also clear from the fact that he will be "SLAIN" by Christ at His second advent (Dan. 7:11; Isa. 11:4; 2 Thess. 2:7-8).

If Christ is going to slay him at the second advent, then he must be a mortal man at that time. This proves that he will not be a resurrected immortal man from the dead, or indwelt by Satan. 

[R. Hartono]

5 hours ago, HAZARD said:

Scripture does say, "a king of fierce counternance would rise," 

The book of Daniel makes it clear that the Antichrist will come from the ten kingdoms of the Old Roman Empire, as in Dan. 7:7-8, 23-24, and from the four divisions of the Grecian Empire, which are four of the ten, as in Dan. 8:7-9, 20-23, but it also makes it clear that he will come from the Syrian division of the four divisions of Greece, as taught in Dan. 11. The king of the north of this chapter is Syria, and the king of the south is Egypt. Wars between these two divisions of Greece are pictures in Dan. 11:5-34. Verses 35-45 portray war between these same two kingdoms "at the time of the end," showing the result of the last war between them. It states that the land of Egypt shall not escape the king of the north in this last war, thus identifying Syria as being the country from which the Antichrist must come. If the king of the North was Russia, as many Bible students now teach how could Dan 11:44 be fulfilled? What countries are north of Russia that could fight against her, as required by this verse? I even had one minister argue that America is north of Russia. I had a little difficulty explaining to him that America was south of the North Pole, and not north of Russia, and Russia was also south of the North Pole. He eventually agreed. Geography was his weak point.


When Alexander the Great died, his empire was divided into four parts which can be seen by consulting history books. In Dan. 8:9 it states, "Out of one of them," that is, out of one of these four divisions of the Grecian Empire the "little horn" would come, and this is explained in verse 23 as being in the latter time of the existence of these four kingdoms a king of fierce countenance would rise. The four kingdoms of Dan. 8 will make four of the ten of Dan. 7, and the purpose of this chapter over Dan. 7 is to narrow the coming of the Antichrist geographicly from the ten kingdoms to four of the ten, so we can definately say that he will not come from any country outside of these four kingdoms.


Here's the good news, He will definately not come from America, or even rule America, or even be a world wide dictator as many teach and believe, although his wars in the middle east will cause disruption in world wide trade, oil etc. Scripture shows he will only reign over ten kingdoms that will yet be formed inside the Old Roman Empire territory (Dan. 7:23-24).


Only these ten kingdoms will give their power and kingdoms to him (Rev. 13:1; 17:12-17).


Certain countries WILL ESCAPE his rule (Dan. 11:40-44).


Certain countries will make war on him at the very time he is supposed to be ruling the whole world (Read Dan. 11:40-44). If he was ruling the whole world this could not happen. Because he will rule and reign only over ten countries inside the Old Roman Empire territory, and because America never was or ever will be inside that territory, and because certain countries escape the antichrist, we can Scripturally conclude and be at ease that he will not come from, or rule America, or even be a world wide dictator.


Hundreds of millions of people will never take his mark either. We have seen that many nations will not be under his rule, so naturally people in these countries, America included, will not have to take his mark and they will therefore not be killed. The Bible teaches that many peoples of "all nations," that are left after the reign of the Antichrist, people who will be alive in the Millennium and will go up yearly to worship God (Read Zech 14:16-21). This again further limits the kingdoms of the Antichrist to only a part of the world and limits his ability to kill everyone who does not take the mark, even in his own empire. According to Revelation 14:9-11, no one who has taken the mark will go into the Millennium, but will be sent to eternal Hell. That multitudes go into the Millennium proves they have not taken the mark of the beast and have not been killed. If the Antichrist ruled the entire world as many people believe, and he killed everyone who did not take his mark, and the Lord Jesus sends to Hell everyone who has taken the antichrists mark, then there would be not one person left to enter the Millennium? And this would be contrary to Zech. 14:16-21; Matt. 25:31-46; Isa. 2:1-4 and many Scriptures.


THE ANTICHRIST WHO IS A MAN,  will reign over only ten kingdoms that are yet to be formed inside the yet to be revived, Old Roman Empire. (Dan. 7:23-24). Only these ten kingdoms will give their power and kingdoms to him. (Rev.13:1; 17:12-17). Certain countries will escape his rule (Dan.11:40-44). Certain countries will make war on him at the very time he is supposed to be ruling the whole world (Dan. 11:40-44). Because he will reign only over ten countries inside the Roman Empire territory and because America is not inside that territory and never will be, and because certain countries will escape him we can scripturally conclude that he will never rule America or be a world-wide dictator. Therefore, multitudes of people of many nations will also never take the mark of the beast and they will never be killed by the Antichrist for not doing so.



The Bible speaks of many peoples of many nations that are left after the reign of the Antichrist, people who will be alive in the Millennium and will go up yearly to worship God (Zech. 14:16-21). This further limits the kingdom of the Antichrist to only part of the world and also limits his ability to kill everyone who does not take the mark even in his own empire. According to Rev. 14:9-11 no one who has taken the mark will go into the Millennium, but will be sent to eternal Hell.
 

That multitudes go into the Millennium proves they have not taken the mark of the beast and have not been killed, as taught by many Bible students. If the Antichrist were to kill every person who does not take his mark, and God sends to Hell everyone who does take the mark, then there would be not one person left to enter the Millennium. Also, The mark of the beast will not be 666. There are three brands men will have a choice of taking in the days of the Antichrist inside his kingdom. They are his name, his mark, AND THE NUMBER OF HIS NAME  (Rev. 13:16-18). The name and mark of this man is not given in scripture; so no one will know what they are until he comes and men get to know what his name and mark will be, and what he will chose to put on his followers. The only one of these three brands that is given is the number of his name, and that is stated as being 666 in Rev. 13:18. So 666 is not the name or the mark of the beast. It is the number of the beast.

 

The Antichrist will be a future mortal man, nothing more. That he will be a mortal man is clear from (Rev. 13:18). That he will be a mortal man is also clear from the fact that he will be "SLAIN" by Christ at His second advent (Dan. 7:11; Isa. 11:4; 2 Thess. 2:7-8).

If Christ is going to slay him at the second advent, then he must be a mortal man at that time. This proves that he will not be a resurrected immortal man from the dead, or indwelt by Satan. 

Daniel 11 has been fulfilled in history 

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/272589-daniel-11-the-king-of-the-north-south-has-been-fulfilled-in-history/

 

[Revelation Man]

On 4/21/2023 at 5:03 AM, R. Hartono said:

Zechariah 11 :6 For, lo, I will raise up a shepherd in the land, which shall not visit those that be cut off, neither shall seek the young one, nor heal that that is broken, nor feed that that standeth still: but he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and tear their claws in pieces.

¹⁷ Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock ! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

 

It may be the False Prophet who will be a Jewish High Priest who will be like unto Jason(Real name Yeshua) the wicked high priest under Antiochus Epiphanes IV. Jesus was also seen as Israel's true High Priest/Shepard. 

This can't be the Anti-Christ, he must be born in Greece (Dan. 8:9) and come to power in the E.U. (Dan. 7:7-8)

On 4/22/2023 at 3:03 AM, R. Hartono said:

Daniel 11 has been fulfilled in history 

 

No, Dan. 11:21-34 is about Antiochus, Dan. 11:36-45 is about the coming end time Anti-Christ.

[Revelation Man]

On 4/21/2023 at 9:33 PM, HAZARD said:

The Antichrist may be alive today, either a baby, young boy, or older as someone being a member of a political party, Scripture does say, "a king of fierce counternance would rise," so we can expect him to be a king of a particular country. And the times seem right in my humble opinion.

He is alive, I was shown that in a vision in 1986. He will be the President of the E.U. and the Covenant is simply Israel joining the E.U. Its that basic. 

On 4/21/2023 at 9:33 PM, HAZARD said:

The book of Daniel makes it clear that the Antichrist will come from the ten kingdoms of the Old Roman Empire, as in Dan. 7:7-8, 23-24, and from the four divisions of the Grecian Empire, which are four of the ten, as in Dan. 8:7-9, 20-23, but it also makes it clear that he will come from the Syrian division of the four divisions of Greece, as taught in Dan. 11.

So, how can an E.U. President be born in Syria? The Assyrian of Isaiah 10 simply means he has to have a bloodline of Old Assyria (Northern Iraq or Southern Turkey basically) and thus a man, whose family migrated from Turkey to Greece, is born in Greece, thus he is eligible to become the E.U. President. Dan. 11 teaches he will come from one of the four kingdoms. Dan. 8:9 MANDATES it can only be modern day Greece (Cassander) because he conquers TOWARDS the East (Seleucus/Turkey) TOWARDS the South (Egypt/Ptolemy) and TOWARDS Israel. 

On 4/21/2023 at 9:33 PM, HAZARD said:

The king of the north of this chapter is Syria, and the king of the south is Egypt. Wars between these two divisions of Greece are pictures in Dan. 11:5-34.

We get a basic KOTN vs. KOTS as played out in Six Syrian Wars. Antiochus was a Grecian, probably born in Rome, but his hometown was Antioch, named after his father I am pretty sure, not him.

On 4/21/2023 at 9:33 PM, HAZARD said:

Verses 35-45 portray war between these same two kingdoms "at the time of the end," showing the result of the last war between them.

Well, nit quite, it shows a War between a KOTN and a KOTS, and Dan. 8:9 shows which DIRECTIONS he conquers TOWARDS and thus which direction he conquers from in a simple four way directional box. He conquers East, South and towards Israel which means he conquers from the Northwest (Cassander or Greece). Only a man born in Greece, out of the Four Kingdoms would be eligible to become the E.U. President.

On 4/21/2023 at 9:33 PM, HAZARD said:

It states that the land of Egypt shall not escape the king of the north in this last war, thus identifying Syria as being the country from which the Antichrist must come.

No sir, you just assume this, it simply states the KOTN. No man born in Syria can be a King of Europe(4th Beast). 

On 4/21/2023 at 9:33 PM, HAZARD said:

If the king of the North was Russia, as many Bible students now teach how could Dan 11:44 be fulfilled?

True, but the Gog and Magog was is a different war anyway.

On 4/21/2023 at 9:33 PM, HAZARD said:

What countries are north of Russia that could fight against her, as required by this verse? I even had one minister argue that America is north of Russia. I had a little difficulty explaining to him that America was south of the North Pole, and not north of Russia, and Russia was also south of the North Pole. He eventually agreed. Geography was his weak point.

Well, most people are just guessing tbh.

On 4/21/2023 at 9:33 PM, HAZARD said:

When Alexander the Great died, his empire was divided into four parts which can be seen by consulting history books. In Dan. 8:9 it states, "Out of one of them," that is, out of one of these four divisions of the Grecian Empire the "little horn" would come, and this is explained in verse 23 as being in the latter time of the existence of these four kingdoms a king of fierce countenance would rise. The four kingdoms of Dan. 8 will make four of the ten of Dan. 7, and the purpose of this chapter over Dan. 7 is to narrow the coming of the Antichrist geographicly from the ten kingdoms to four of the ten, so we can definately say that he will not come from any country outside of these four kingdoms.

You got the right verse, you do not quite put it together, and its not (of course) easy stuff. God basically has Three Prophesies and all three have to come together at a conjunction point so to speak. He must have Assyrian blood, not Syrian blood (Isaiah 10) he must arise out of the 10 (COMPLETE E.U. as in 10 = Completion not 10) that arises from the Fourth Beasts Head (E.U. Reunited), and he must be born in Greece (Dan. 8:9 shows the DIRECTION he must conquer from, Greece which is in the E.U.)

It has nothing to do with the Four Kingdoms being a part of the 10, the number 10 simply means Completion, thus the 10 is the Partly Strong and Partly Weak nations of the E.U. or all 27 or so nations. The 10 Brides = Complete Christendom. The 10 days of tribulation Smyrna has in Rev. 2:10 = the Complete Church Age. The 10 Plagues was God's Complete Judgment. The 10 Commandments represented God's Complete Laws etc. etc. The 10 Horns represent Europe Reunited. 

 

 

Since this Anti-Christ (KOTN) conquers TOWARDS the East, TOWARDS the South, and TOWARDS Israel (thus the TOWARDS can only mean he conquers in that direction) he can only Conquer FROM Northwest/Cassander or Greece. 

Read the European Neighborhood Policy on Wikipedia, they currently have AGREEMENTS with Israel, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Libya and Algeria. The goal is to trading pacts AND to gain closer ties to possible "MEMBER STATES" go read it. 

Here is what will go down, when Russia, Turkey and Iran come against Israel, Israel will seek a "PROTETOR" later on, as the USA have been unto Hawaii lets say. Israel do not just sign a pact/agreement with the Anti-Christ, they simply become a member state of the European Union, God gets very angry at this and thus starts the 70th week, its that simply, people overthink this, Israel is not going to Worship an Anti-Christ in actuality, people misconstrue John 5:43, tat was about the Pharisees and the "false christs" they raised up in 68-70 AD in order to save the from Rome (who was the Fourth Beast in their minds and it was).

So, the BLUE AREA (Anti-Christ and the 10 from the Fourth Beasts Head or E.U.) will conquer Israel, Turkey, Jordan and all of North Africa thus on a map it will look just like Old Rome.

 

I have had this stuff pegged for over 5 years now. NOW, go reread Dan. 11:40-43 it states he conquers MANY COUNTRIES not just Israel. And now we can understand THE MANY in Dan. 8:25, Dan. 9:27 and in Dan. 11:40-43 its not just Israel he conquers but the whole Mediterranean Sea Region.

Breakfast time, you kind of see it, but think it all through. Finish up later.