What I received from the Lord...

[Mr. M]

1 Corinthians 11:23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: 

that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread;

Would anyone care to elaborate on the significance of this statement?

[Mr. M]

2 hours ago, Mr. M said:

Would anyone care to elaborate on the significance of this statement?

Paul was not a disciple of Christ during His time on earth,

and was not in attendance at the 'last supper'. And yet, when

the leaders of the church visited gentile congregations founded by Paul,

what did they find?

23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: 

that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; 

24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, Take, eat; this is

My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me.

25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying,

This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink, 

in remembrance of Me.

26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup,

you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.

Can our obedience be perfected without carrying out these instructions?

[Who me]

interesting Paul uses the phrase, what I received, I passed onto you.

As you rightly said, he was not present on the night Jesus gave the last supper, but he had met with Jesus and with the leaders in the church in Jerusalem and had had confirmation from them that he preached the same message they did.

 

What is especaly interesting is how atheist historians view his use of this phrase in 1 cor 15:3-7 and how they view this as an early example of a Christian creed dating back to months of the crucifixion.

One article about it is at:- https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/earliest-evidence-christianity/

there are plenty of others look up Dr G Habermass and his talks on the resurrection.

[Mr. M]

Psalm 44:1 We have heard with our ears, O God,
Our fathers have told us,
The deeds You did in their days,
In the days of old:

2 Timothy 2:1 You therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. 

2 And the things that you have heard from me among many witnesses,

commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.

[TheBlade]

"Paul was not a disciple of Christ during His time on earth," 

So define disciple? "a personal follower of Jesus during his life, especially one of the twelve Apostles."

Now the disciples were called Apostles each one saw Christ.... as did Paul. He was a disciple and Apostle. 

So what Paul  passed on came from the lord what Paul received he gave out.....yet why your taking verse 23 and trying to run with it without what came before.. context. It was about what he just said.

 

[steve morrow]

DISCIPLES ???

JOHN 8:31  then said  JESUS  to those jews which believed on --HIM --IF  YOU  CONTINUE-- in  MY  word  then are you  MY  disciples indeed

1 CORINTHIANS 11:1  be you followes of me  --EVEN  AS  I  ALSO  AM  OF  CHRIST--

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST

[Mr. M]

4 hours ago, TheBlade said:

"Paul was not a disciple of Christ during His time on earth," 

So define disciple? "a personal follower of Jesus during his life, especially one of the twelve Apostles."

 

21 minutes ago, steve morrow said:

DISCIPLES ???

 

On 4/27/2023 at 1:34 PM, Mr. M said:

Paul was not a disciple of Christ during His time on earth,

and was not in attendance at the 'last supper'.

What is the issue here? Obviously, he was an apostle, he is called

"the apostle Paul". The point of the OP as indicated by the title, 

is that though he was not in attendance, he had detailed knowledge

and understanding with regards to participation in the Lord's supper,

and it was not second hand knowledge. He received it from the Lord,

and presented these details to the church. He is rebuking them for not

following these instructions precisely, as from the Lord. 

1 Co 11:

27 Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord

in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 

28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of

the bread and drink of the cup. 

29 For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats

and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 

30 For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep. 

[ChristB4us]

On 4/27/2023 at 1:53 PM, Mr. M said:

1 Corinthians 11:23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: 

that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread;

Would anyone care to elaborate on the significance of this statement?

I would believe Paul is referring to the ordinance or the commandment from the Lord regarding communion to be only done in remembrance of Him.

If it was for anything else far more important than doing it in remembrance of Him, the Lord would have led with that, but He did not and neither did Paul nor any of the other remaining disciples that had actually participated in the Last Supper teach otherwise.

[Mr. M]

19 minutes ago, ChristB4us said:

I would believe Paul is referring to the ordinance or the commandment from the Lord regarding communion to be only done in remembrance of Him.

If it was for anything else far more important than doing it in remembrance of Him, the Lord would have led with that, but He did not and neither did Paul nor any of the other remaining disciples that had actually participated in the Last Supper teach otherwise.

Yes, 

26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup,

you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.

But it seems they were treating the sacrament as if it 

were a pot luck of some sort!

20 Therefore when you come together in one place,

it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper. 

21 For in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others; 

and one is hungry and another is drunk. 

22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in?

Or do you despise the church of God and shame

those who have nothing? What shall I say to you?

Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you...

33 Therefore, my brethren, when you come together to eat,

wait for one another. 

34 But if anyone is hungry, let him eat at home,

lest you come together for judgment.

And the rest I will set in order when I come.

[ChristB4us]

Just now, Mr. M said:

Yes, 

26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup,

you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.

But it seems they were treating the sacrament as if it 

were a pot luck of some sort!

20 Therefore when you come together in one place,

it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper. 

21 For in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others; 

and one is hungry and another is drunk. 

22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in?

Or do you despise the church of God and shame

those who have nothing? What shall I say to you?

Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you...

33 Therefore, my brethren, when you come together to eat,

wait for one another. 

34 But if anyone is hungry, let him eat at home,

lest you come together for judgment.

And the rest I will set in order when I come.

Yes, in this incidence, the church seemingly was leaving out the bread and the wine for communion service and members were coming in helping themselves to it before service began as if they were coffee and donuts or something.