Are GODS ELECT truly those REJECTING Him today?

[Revelation Man]

50 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

As of the last 2020 census in Israel there are 9.1 million people in Israel of which 74% are Jews or 6.7 million, 1/3 of this is 2.2 million

 

The number doesn't matter, I have heard 10 million Jews live in Israel and 15 million world wide, that's a ball park number that is not important to me because I know God knows, and that 1/3 repent, so I go 3.5-5 million, the point is the number is not 144,000 that's a code for ALL Israel who repents, the number is also not 7000, both are codes by a genius, all knowing God who gives nothing away until the time is at hand via the way He presents the Prophesies unto us in codes.

Satan did not have to keep a "MAN" at all times to be the Beast, he tried to kill Israel off at all time, but Satan  is brilliant, he can read, so he knew Israel had to be reborn as a nation before everything could go down.

We do not know how many will move to Israel by that time, that s why the number is fungible, the number can't be known exactly until the very end, also some people may not count all Jews as Jews, the overall point is that Israel repents JUST BEFORE the DOTL falls. That's the important part, whether it be 1 million or 5 million matters not to us, God knows the number, He just doesn't pick out those people, they have to repent and accept Christ by FAITH ALONE just like we did, BEFORE the 2nd Coming. 

[Diaste]

23 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Alternative view from The Believer's Bible Commentary:

Rev 14:4, 5 They are described as virgins, those who have not defiled themselves with women. They had kept themselves free from the terrible idolatry and immorality of this period and followed the Lamb in unquestioning obedience and devotion. Pentecost says, “They are called ‘the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb’, that is, they are the first of the harvest of the tribulation period that will come into the millennium to populate the millennial earth.” They did not accept the lie of the Antichrist—that a mere man was to be worshiped. They were blameless as far as their steadfast confession of Christ was concerned.

It's an opinion. I hear a lot of those. The conclusion of the part in bold is probably as far afield as it gets; pure speculation. 

 

[Diaste]

16 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Rev. 8 plays out just like an incoming Asteroid according to a Scientist friend who is not religious, of the guy who wrote about Apophis, after he had a vision, by the way thus man (Tom Horn) had a vision of the Pope retiring like in 2012 or 2013 and when his date passed people told him, Tom, you ruined your cred, no Pope has retired in 600 years, then he retired almost a year later, BUT.... at the Press Conference it was stated the Pope actually resigned a year earlier and stayed on until they git things together properly, the same guy saw Apophis hitting.

Tom Horn? Dude. I have listened to Tom on many occasions, he's way out there. You're picking and choosing. It wasn't the final Pope in 2012. 

16 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

His scientist friend told him, fire comes in before the Impact of a giant asteroid, thus Trump #1 is Fire. Then we get THE IMPACT thus Trump #2, then we get the FALLOUT (Wormwood) which pollutes or poisons the fresh waters. Then  we get the Sun & Moon going dark from all the smoke filtering out the sun, by 1/3.

Thus, we Pre Tribbers understand if Apophis its (it will hit) then we have to be Raptured by the fall of 2025. So, is THE SEASON  a Day or an Hour? No, we can know the Season and should, just like Israel knew within 2 days when the new moon and thus the Feast of Trumps would come (think Last Trump).

Yes, it's true we can know the season. We are told that. We are told to Watch. That doesn't mean dates are accurate. 

16 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

I see everything clearly,  like its a movie on a film, God has blessed me because I yield to His suggestions. I am not stuck on men's old sayings and traditions. Think  Day nor Hour represents we can't know the exact ay and exact hour only, but in the parable of the Fig Tree we are told we should know THE SEASON.  People overthink and overplay simple phrases. 

No one sees clearly, especially in prophecy.

[Shilohsfoal]

5 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Many claim Jesus will literally return and rule "On This Earth" In A Millennium this being false in deception

Jesus warned his followers against this teaching, Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as many claim

The Antichrist will be in Jerusalem, claiming to be Messiah Returned, "Beware"!

"Believe It Not" "Go Not Forth"

Matthew 24:23-27KJV

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Revelation 13:13-14KJV

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 19:20KJV

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

I understand there are many false Christ's today.

That's doesn't mean the Lord will not come bach and stand on the earth.According to s rupture he will return the same way he left.You claim he will not return .Scripture not only says he will return,but will also stand on the mountain where he left.

Acts 1:11

“Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”
 

Zech 14

⁴ And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

 

 

HIs feet stand on the mount of olives which is on earth where you claim he will not stand.Why do you contradict scripture and call it a lie?

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:

You claim he will not return .Scripture not only says he will return,but will also stand on the mountain where he left.

Acts 1:11

“Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”
 

Zech 14

⁴ And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

 

 

HIs feet stand on the mount of olives which is on earth where you claim he will not stand.Why do you contradict scripture and call it a lie?

Zechariah Chapter 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom

Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement.

(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.

(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.

(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 22:1KJV

And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Eternal Kingdom"!

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV

14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

9 And the Lordshall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.

11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Edited May 3, 2023 by truth7t7

[Shilohsfoal]

2 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Zechariah Chapter 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom

Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement.

(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.

(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.

(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 22:1KJV

And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Eternal Kingdom"!

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV

14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

9 And the Lordshall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.

11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

So now you agree that the Lord does return to the earth and he does stand on earth.

That's a start.

Revelation 14;1

Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.

 

In the above verse ,the lamb is standing on a different mountain located in Jerusalem.
Notice he is not only seen standing on one mountain in Jerusalem,and then seen standing on a different mountain in Jerusalem.He must be walking around on earth as he has done before.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 3, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[DeighAnn]

 1375. diógmos ►
Strong's Concordance
diógmos: persecution
Original Word: διωγμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: diógmos
Phonetic Spelling: (dee-ogue-mos')
Definition: persecution
Usage: chase, pursuit; persecution.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 1375 diōgmós (from 1377 /diṓkō, "follow, pursue") – properly, pursuit (chase); persecution – literally, "the hunt to bring someone down like an animal," trying to suppress (punish) their convictions. See 1377 (diōkō).

1375 /diōgmós ("religious persecution") literally refers to those seeking to punish God's messengers with a vengeance – like a hunter trying to conquer (obliterate) someone as their "catch."


What is SATAN coming to do?  PERSECUTE

They BOASTED in the churches (the body of Christ, SAME AS US) about how the FIRST Christians HOPEFULLY and example for us today, about how they persevered and KEPT the faith through ALL of the persecutions and tribulations that they FACED.  They ran the race set before them.  WHY wouldn't we do the same? 

Are they OF THE BODY same as us or not?  How can God ALLOW some of us to suffer, EVEN HIS OWN SON, and up to death, but not allow the EXACT SAME for us?  If you can't see how one way is right and the other is wrong, then I would be checking out what kind of delusion I was living under.  


Persevering THROUGH ALL persecutions and tribulations ARE a plain token of THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT OF GOD.  

Persecutions and Tribulations MAKE US WORTHY of the Kingdom of God.  Is there any way we can be made TOO WORHTY?

We must SUFFER to be worthy of the Kingdom of God.


PERSEVERING through ALL tribulations means

5281. hupomoné ►
Strong's Concordance
hupomoné: a remaining behind, a patient enduring
Original Word: ὑπομονή, ῆς, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: hupomoné
Phonetic Spelling: (hoop-om-on-ay')
Definition: a remaining behind, a patient enduring
Usage: endurance, steadfastness, patient waiting for.
HELPS Word-studies
5281 hypomonḗ (from 5259 /hypó, "under" and 3306 /ménō, "remain, endure") – properly, remaining under, endurance; steadfastness, especially as God enables the believer to "remain (endure) under" the challenges He allots in life.

GOD enables us TO ENDURE and so HE has already TAKEN CARE of us NO MATTER WHAT.  


HOW would Satan get us to LEAVE OUR FIRST LOVE? 

With some sort of FALSE DOCTRINE that would promise carnal things, flesh desires, like SAFETY and LIFE without tribulation and or death, 
Doctrines that got you thinking in the natural flesh that cries out
GOD WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO SUFFER, or to go through tribulations THAT WERE TOO GREAT.  

What SORTS of SUFFERING does God allow TO HAPPEN, for us to endure?  

Being tempted
Trying to be Overcome and/or Deceived

Death by...accident, nature
Murder
Crucifixion
Lion
Fire
Torture
Sawn in half
Starvation

To endure 
False Imprisonment
Famine
Beatings
Stonings
Trials 
Torture
Eating our own children
Pestilence

False accusations - False accusers
Loss of family - rejection and betrayal by family
Loss of possessions by natural disasters
Boils
Liars
Thieves 
Betrayal

Wars 

Is there anything Satan and his angels COULD DO that would be GREATER to some degree than any of those things that many BELIEVERS have already gone through?

If we are NOT to FEAR DEATH of the flesh, THEN WHAT IS TOOO GREAT?

Was the Roman Kingdom one of the "Kingdoms" under the influence of Satan as has been said?  If so,

Why didn't THEY GET RAPTURED?  Why did they have to endure being killed for entertainment?  Why is it OK FOR THEM to suffer for the Kingdom but not US?  

 

2 Thess 1:4 so as for ourselves us in you boast in the churches of God, about the perseverance of you and faith in all the persecutions of you and in the tribulations that you are bearing

5 [This is] a plain token of the righteous judgment of God unto to be accounted worthy you of the kingdom of God for which also you suffer

 

5281. hupomoné ►
Strong's Concordance
hupomoné: a remaining behind, a patient enduring
Original Word: ὑπομονή, ῆς, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: hupomoné
Phonetic Spelling: (hoop-om-on-ay')
Definition: a remaining behind, a patient enduring
Usage: endurance, steadfastness, patient waiting for.
HELPS Word-studies
5281 hypomonḗ (from 5259 /hypó, "under" and 3306 /ménō, "remain, endure") – properly, remaining under, endurance; steadfastness, especially as God enables the believer to "remain (endure) under" the challenges He allots in life.


1730. endeigma ►
Strong's Concordance
endeigma: an indication, a proof
Original Word: ἔνδειγμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: endeigma
Phonetic Spelling: (en'-dighe-mah)
Definition: an indication, a proof
Usage: (a thing proved, hence) a plain token (sign, proof).
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 1730 éndeigma (a neuter noun) – A plain (undeniable) demonstration or display which is conspicuously shown, i.e. as a token of proof that is fully adequate (persuasive, validating). See 1731 (endeiknymi).






NOT WAITING TO BE SAFELY TAKEN OUT OF DECEPTIONS WAY

BUT WAITING FOR THE KING AND THE KINGDOM TO RETURN AND FOR THE LORDS DAY TO BEGIN


False doctrines have me arguing over things SO CLEARLY WRITTEN describing ONE WAY

as if they didn't all teach going in the EXACT OPPOSITE WAY. 

So, you want to 'WATCH' for Christ to leave the right hand of God to come and SAVE YOU from TRIBULATION and death, TO HAVE YOUR LIFE SAVED rather than lose it

PRTD IS FOR YOU

You want to 'be kept' by being removed, rather than ENDURING TO THE END

PTRD IS FOR YOU

You want to
'rapture' rather than to STAND
'escape' rather than WITHSTAND
'fly' rather than PICK UP YOUR CROSS
'create the season' rather than 'await the season'
'have Christ come as a thief in the night' rather than know the season
'believe a lie' rather than the RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT OF GOD
'not suffer unto blood' rather than give up you life

then
PTRD IS FOR YOU

BUT if that ENDS UP CAUSING YOU TO BE DECEIVED BECAUSE IT IS A LIE (and everyone you teach)

for those who would RATHER BELIEVE A LIE, remember what it WILL cost...


The Lord Jesus is going to be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels

it will be in a flame of fire inflicting vengeance upon those NOT OBEYING THE GOSPEL

THE PENALTY BEING ETERNAL DESTRUCTION

 If we don't believe what is written, we are doomed.  

WE have to be accounted WORTHY, and that means TEACHING HIS DOCTRINES,

not doctrines that aren't written.  


The Revelation of our Lord and our gathering to Him doesn't take place until 

AFTER

THE APOSTASY

AND AFTER

AND SATAN IS REVEALED TO BE AN IMPOSTER.  


Not until AFTER the image is set up and the daily sacrifice taken away

Not until AFTER all his LYING signs and wonders

Not until AFTER he stands and claims to be God

Not until AFTER he kills the two witnesses DO WE EVER even READ OF HEAVEN OPENING and the world seeing it.

ARE THESE ALL LIES THAT I BELIEVE?  Does me teaching we will be here for the Tribulation of Satan cause me to be the one who is deceived?  Does me teaching we will all be here and will have to overcome the deception mean I am the one who is deceived?  Does me teaching we endure to the end of that time mean I am believing lies and I am the one NOT TEACHING THE GOSPEL

AND I AM THE ONE WHO WILL SUFFER ETERNAL DAMNATION?  

IF WHAT I PUT FORTH IS NOT GODS TRUTH, IS NOT WRITTEN IN THE WORDS OF GOD

I WOULD DESERVE NO LESS. 

IF I HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS WRITTEN AND I AM ACTING AS AN AGENT OF SATAN PUTTING FORTH LIES AND FALSE DOCTRINES AND HELPING IN ANY DECEPTION UPON THE CHILDREN OF GOD

THEN THAT IS MY FATE.  I ACCEPT THAT.  

YES, I WOULD DIE FOR WHAT I BELIEVE IS GODS TRUTH AND IF I CAN BE THIS DECEIVED, I DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE ANYHOW.  


THAT IS MY TESTIMONY, NOW WRITTEN IN A BOOK IN HEAVEN, GOD AS MY WITNESS.  

But here is what I have done that I believe EVERYONE should do....

When God ASKS why you believe what you do WILL YOU ANSWER WITH IT IS WRITTEN, IT IS WRITTEN, IT IS WRITTEN

or will it be with I THOUGHT YOU MEANT, THATS WHAT I WAS TAUGHT, I ASSUMED...


When will Christ return?

after the workings of Satan WRITTEN
before the trib NOT WRITTEN

When will we be gathered to Christ?

after the apostasy and Satan revealed WRITTEN
before the apostasy and Satan revealed NOT WRITTEN


Can it be written

we are NOT GATHERED TO CHRIST until after the lying signs and wonders of Satan

IF IN FACT ANYONE IS GATHERED unto Christ BEFORE THAT?

NO, because if there was a gathering before we are gathered after the workings of Satan, 

It couldn't be written we are gathered AFTER, could it?


 

Edited May 3, 2023 by DeighAnn

[Revelation Man]

On 5/3/2023 at 4:17 AM, Diaste said:

Tom Horn? Dude. I have listened to Tom on many occasions, he's way out there. You're picking and choosing. It wasn't the final Pope in 2012. 

On 5/2/2023 at 11:13 AM, Revelation Man said:

As per the Final Pope, I never read the book, I don't read these things nor have I contemplated that, I think that stuff came from some "Saint" way back. To me that is gibberish.  I am just going by his two visions.

Facts are facts. He stated he had a vision the Pope would retire and he did, that is a documented fact. He stated he had a vision of Apophis. As per how "HE THINKS" on Aliens and all can just be him being wrong on his own, I think these so called Aliens are demons. So, I stick with his visions as his gift, knowing some people overplay their calling, I see that here all the time. My calling is Prophecy, I take tidbits and God shows me the big picture. I (BY MERE CHANCE or Providence SMILE) ran across the European Neighborhood Policy's Wikipedia page, what others see as a mere simple agreement between nations I saw as "THE COVENANT" of Daniel 9:27s framework. The prince to come makes an Agreement WITH MANY, not just Israel, and the E.U. has this framework intact as we speak, they have agreements in place with not only Israel, but with Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco, Algeria, Libya and Tunisia. Now read Dan. 11:40-43, this A.C. conquers MANY COUNTRIES not just Israel. We are given the Holy Spirit in order to decipher these things, we should be able to pick out the truths from the mistakes. It is OK to get truths from those who then guess wrongly on other things, the best policy is to profess what we know to be of God and admit that which is a guess, I pretty much do not guess, I either get an answer or I do not move on until God gives me His answer, because we are in the end times when God has promised to do so. Too many are passing on OTHER MEN'S IDEAS from years gone by.

On 5/3/2023 at 4:17 AM, Diaste said:

Yes, it's true we can know the season. We are told that. We are told to Watch. That doesn't mean dates are accurate. 

On 5/2/2023 at 11:13 AM, Revelation Man said:

Dates are specific days, Seasons are not specific dates IMHO. Apophis will hit on April 13, 2029, LOOK AROUND, God sees 1 billion Abortions, his Wrath is nigh full, but what tips it over the edge? God has a great zeal for Israel, when they join the E.U. that is them giving away His land, thus that starts the 70th week of Judgment against Israel and ENDS the Time of the Gentiles which if we take the time to read properly in Romans chapters 9-11 we can see the Time of the Gentiles is referring to SERVICE unto God. The Rapture (Pre Trib) ends the Time of the Gentiles Service. Now Israel's service will be called upon, just like it was them who serviced God by birthing Jesus before the Church Age. Now Israel will be where Jesus sets up his Kingdom Age. 

On 5/3/2023 at 4:17 AM, Diaste said:

No one sees clearly, especially in prophecy.

Speak for yourself brother, God clearly stated in the End Times we would know all of these things, (Daniel 12) but why then do not people know these things? Because they are still following Men's Ideas which came forth BEFORE God was ready to show us His truths in full. 

No one can ever get the end times correct until they understand the 1290 AoD can not be the Anti-Christ, he only becomes the Beast 30 days later at the 1260, but we get men who HOLD ON to these UNTUTHS, so how are they ever going to receive God's truths? Jesus told the Pharisees their biggest problem was Men's Traditions, in other words they could not hear Jesus' truths because men's passed down traditions were more endearing unto them !! I can say the 1290 CAN NOT be the Anti-Christ until I bust a gut and people are like, Well, that is not what I have been hearing for eons !! NO KIDDING, that is why you can't get it, I think to myself and hear & yield to God's small still voice.

If people refuse to take key parts to a huge puzzle they are never going to solve the puzzle. Only when we understand the 1290 is the False Prophet and that the Two-witnesses are the 1335 Blessing do we have a shot at understanding the End Times. God blesses those who hear His voice, we can't get that blessing if we say, NOOOOOOOOOO that's not it, when it is !! Until people get the 1335 comes first, then the 1290, followed by the 1260, they have no hope of understanding End Time Eschatology. 

Edited May 4, 2023 by Revelation Man

[Selah7]

1 hour ago, DeighAnn said:

If we are NOT to FEAR DEATH of the flesh, THEN WHAT IS TOOO GREAT?

Death of the soul would be tooo great.

"And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

- Matthew 10:28 (NKJV)

[Diaste]

16 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

As per the Final Pope, I never read the book, I don't read these things nor have I contemplated that, I think tat stuff came from some "Saint" way back. To me that is gibberish.  I am just going by two visions.

Facts are facts. He stated he had a vision the Pope would retire and he did, that is a documented fact. He stated he had a vision of Apophis. As per how "HE THINKS" on Aliens and all can just be him being wrong on his own, I think these so called Aliens are demons. So, I stick with his visions as his gift, knowing some people overplay their calling, I see it here all the time. My calling is Prophecy, I take tidbits and God shows me the big picture. I (BY MERE CHANCE) ran across the European Neighborhood Policy's wikipedia page, what others see as a mere simple agreement between nations I saw as "THE COVENANT" of Daniel 9:27s framework. The prince to come makes an Agreement WITH MANY, not just Israel, and the E.U. has this framework intact as we speak, they have agreements in place with not only Israel, but with Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco, Algeria, Libya and Tunisia. Now read Dan. 11:40-43, this A.C. conquers MANY COUNTRIES not just Israel. We are given the Holy Spirit in order to decipher these things, we should be able to pick out the truths from the mistakes. It is OK to get truths from who then guess wrongly on other things, the best policy is to profess what we know to be of God and admit that which is a guess,

I guess we'll see.

16 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

 

I pretty much do not guess, I either get an answer or I do nit move on until God gives me His answer, because we are in the end times when God has promised to do so. 

You realize many people say this, and all have different conclusions? "The Holy Spirit told me!" and they have a truth. The very next person says the same thing, only it's a contradictory truth. Men's voices are confusion. 

16 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Dates are specific days, Seasons are not specific dates. Apophis will hit on April 13, 2029, 

That's a specific day.

 

16 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Speak for yourself brother, God clearly stated in the End Times we would know all of thee things, (Daniel 12) but why then do not people know these things? Because they are still following Men's Ideas which came forth BEFORE God was ready to show us His truths in full. 

No. "many will run to and fro and knowledge will increase" is what was said. Never said "you will know all these things". 

16 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

No one can ever get the end times correct until they understand the 1290 AoD can not be the Anti-Christ, he only becomes the Beast 30 days later at the 1260, but we get men who HOLD ON to these UNTUTHS, so how are they ever going to receive God's truths? Jesus told the Pharisees their biggest problem was Men's Traditions, in other words they could not hear Jesus' truths because men's passed down traditions were more endearing unto them !! I can say the 1290 CAN NOT be the Anti-Christ until I bust a gut and people are like, Well, that is not what I have been hearing for eons !! NO KIDDING, that is why you can't get not I think to myself.

We'll see. I doubt the above scenario is accurate.

16 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

If people refuse to take key parts tom a huge puzzle they ate never going to solve the puzzle. Only when we understand the 1290 is the False Prophet and that the Two-witnesses are the 1335 Blessing to we have a shot at understanding the End Times. God blesses those who hear His voice, we can't get that blessing if we say, NOOOOOOOOOO that not it, when it is !! Until people get the 1335 comes first, then the 1290, followed by the 1260, they have no hope of understanding End Time Eschatology. 

Sure, sure.