smoking

[Gerioke]

Yet this was not a known fact 40 years ago, was it? Nor was it a known fact 100 years ago when perhaps as much as 3/4 of society smoked, chewed, or snuffed tobacco. So does that mean that smoking has sudenly become a sin by virtue of our knowledge?

Gen.2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat of it: for in the day that you eat thereof you shall surely die.

[Ovedya]

Yet this was not a known fact 40 years ago, was it? Nor was it a known fact 100 years ago when perhaps as much as 3/4 of society smoked, chewed, or snuffed tobacco. So does that mean that smoking has sudenly become a sin by virtue of our knowledge?

Gen.2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat of it: for in the day that you eat thereof you shall surely die.

N/A

[apothanein kerdos]

Let's try this...how is smoking a sin? Keep in mind the "body is a temple" does not work if you:

* Drink soda

* Eat modern food (all food has preservatives which are harmful to your body)

* Breath

* Live in the city

* Drive a car

* Use a microwave

* Chew gum

* Drink unfiltered water

etc...

Do any of that, plus a million other things, and you're harming your body. How quickly we forget that Paul was talking about sexual sins in that passage...

[Ovedya]

Exactamundo!

I plan on breathing for quite a while.

[apothanein kerdos]

Well the way I see it, I'm going to die no matter what and I'll probably die when God no longer has a use for me or just wants me to come home. Since I'm going to die, I might as well enjoy a cigar and a beer on the way there...not in excess, but just once in a while to celebrate my impending death and comming home party.

[Giaour]

My grampa, who is 90 has smoked for 75 years with no ill effects. He says "At least I know what I'm gonna die from".

BTW!

He was baptised last year !

[Gerioke]

I have a love/hate relationship going with cigs, and I too enjoy a cold pint, but I believe there is a difference between intentionally ingesting poisons and being a victim of your environment.

Luke 4:9 And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said to him, If you be the Son of God, cast yourself down from hence:

10 For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over you, to keep you:

11 And in their hands they shall bear you up, lest at any time you dash your foot against a stone.

12 And Jesus answering said to him, It is said, You shall not tempt the Lord your God.

Acts 28:3 And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand.

4 And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he has escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffers not to live.

5 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm.

6 However, they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.

Paul didn' know the snake was there.

[Ovedya]

We have a new thread on the issue of wine drinking, split from this thread.

>>HERE<<

[Micah68]

So, go buy more cigarettes and smoke them all and end your life early, rationalizing that it's not a sin and then go and try your rationalizations on God when He asks you why your life ended so early and you could not be more of a use for Him, why you couldn't stick around to help your family and why you had to be a burden to others at the end of your life when emphysema took over your body. Keep on smoking and then when you want to light up in His presence, He'll give you the thumbs down. Oops, too late to quit then.

We are responsible for that which we have knowlede of. People today know that smoking kills. Granted some people seem to be able to smoke and still live long lives. That doesn't cut it as an excuse because the fact is the majority don't. As for eating junk etc, well, why not clean that up too? But some of us cannot afford the prices of organic foods so we just do the best we can to keep this temple of God in the best shape we can. We live in a terrible world and we are responsible to do what we can in it.

[Keith]

Anything that you do excessivly is wrong.

Over eating is just as bad.

Wha about posting on worthy, Ronald?

Ahhhhh hey your the one with 5800 post!

Yeah but Ronalds got 10,000+

Yeah, but Ron's been here 2 1/2 YEARS! You've been here 7 months!