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26 minutes ago, The Light said:

He will gather the CHURCH FROM HEAVEN and those of the second harvest from the earth. Those 144,000 first fruits from the 12 tribes, are proof that there will be a harvest of the 12 tribes. At the gathering from heaven and earth both will be gathered into ONE.

John 10

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

There is an order given.

1 Cor 15

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Christ is firstfruits. Then they that are Christs at His coming which is the Church when He comes before the seals are opened.

Then part of Israel has its eyes opened when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in.

Romans 11

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Then there are 144,000 first fruits taken to heaven.

Revelation 14

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

So we have first fruits, so they that are Christs at His coming at the end of the age for the harvest. This will be the seed of the woman, Israel.

The fig tree has two harvests. Jacob had two brides. There is grain harvest and fruit harvest. One will be like the days of Noah and one like the days of Lot. One will be at the trump of God or voice of God and one will be at the last trump, blown on the Feast of Trumpets. One coming, the Lord Himself comes and one coming He sends His angels.

It's all perfectly clear when you read exactly what the Word says.

Nope wrong again.  None of the Gentile Church are raised up until “the last day” as Jesus said.

The 144,000 “firstfruits”(clue) of Israel seen “in heaven”with the Lamb, have already been redeemed from the earth, as is written.

These “firstfruits”(clue) of Israel seen in heaven, are those saints from Israel who rose right after Jesus (the first fruit) was resurrected.

It is written…

But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
 
Firstfruits (clue) of Israel are shown raised here with Jesus…
 
Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
 

Matthew 27:51-53

King James Version

51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.”

The firstfruits (clue) of Israel are shown “in heaven”with Christ, notice it says they were already redeemed from the earth…

And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
 
So nice try, but no cigar ( as they say):)

 


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1 hour ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

Nope wrong again.  None of the Gentile Church are raised up until “the last day” as Jesus said.

The 144,000 “firstfruits”(clue) of Israel seen “in heaven”with the Lamb, have already been redeemed from the earth, as is written.

These “firstfruits”(clue) of Israel seen in heaven, are those saints from Israel who rose right after Jesus (the first fruit) was resurrected.

It is written…

But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
 
Firstfruits (clue) of Israel are shown raised here with Jesus…
 
Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
 

Matthew 27:51-53

King James Version

51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.”

The firstfruits (clue) of Israel are shown “in heaven”with Christ, notice it says they were already redeemed from the earth…

And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
 
So nice try, but no cigar ( as they say):)

 

Wow. Are you going to try to pass that out of context scripture as applying to this discussion? Let me bring you to reality.

Hosea 9

10 I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree at her first time: but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations were according as they loved.

God saw the fathers of the Jews as the first ripe in the fig tree at her first time, but the went to Baalpeor.

This tells us that God saw the fathers of the Jews as the first fruits of the first harvest. However, they served another god and they would not be the first harvest. The Gentiles will be the first harvest. That is why the fullness of the Gentiles must come in before part of Israel has their blindness removed.

The 144,000 DO NOT become first fruits UNTIL the harvest of the Gentiles occurs. The harvest of the Gentiles will occur BEFORE the seals are opened. Then the 144,000 can become first fruits and be redeemed from the earth.

Additionally after the summer grain harvest which is the dead in Christ and the alive believers that had remained, The 12 tribes across the earth will realize that they have missed the harvest and have not received salvation.

Jeremiah 8

20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.

Through the salvation of the Gentiles, the Jews are provoked to jealousy.

Romans 11

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

The 70th week of Daniel is about the people of Daniel.

Daniel 9

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

The tribulation is the time of Jacobs trouble.

It's time to pull your head out the sand and know that the Lord comes for those who watch for Him soon. Much sooner than you think.


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1 hour ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

Nope wrong again.  None of the Gentile Church are raised up until “the last day” as Jesus said.

The 144,000 “firstfruits”(clue) of Israel seen “in heaven”with the Lamb, have already been redeemed from the earth, as is written.

These “firstfruits”(clue) of Israel seen in heaven, are those saints from Israel who rose right after Jesus (the first fruit) was resurrected.

It is written…

But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
 
Firstfruits (clue) of Israel are shown raised here with Jesus…
 
Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
 

Matthew 27:51-53

King James Version

51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.”

The firstfruits (clue) of Israel are shown “in heaven”with Christ, notice it says they were already redeemed from the earth…

And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
 
So nice try, but no cigar ( as they say):)

 

There are (Two) resurrections on the (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second Death) resurrection has no power.

1.) (First Resurrection) To Life

2.) (Second Death) Resurrection To Damnation

Revelation 20:6KJV

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The (Last Day) Resurrection Of All Below

Daniel 12:1-2KJV

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

John 5:28-29KJV

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:39-40KJV

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The (Last Day) Judgement

John 12:48KJV

48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.


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Posted



 GODS WORDS, not mans, about the HARVEST

not WHEAT AND BARLEY.... but wheat and tares   


24Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.




863 [e]    ἄφετε
aphete    Allow    V-AMA-2P
4885 [e]    συναυξάνεσθαι
synauxanesthai    to grow together    V-PNM/P
297 [e]    ἀμφότερα
amphotera    Both -  Adjective - Accusative Neuter Plural
2193 [e]    ἕως
heōs    until    Prep
3588 [e]    τοῦ
tou    the    Art-GMS
2326 [e]    θερισμοῦ·
therismou    Harvest -  Noun - Genitive Masculine SINGULAR
2532 [e]    καὶ
kai    and    Conj
1722 [e]    ἐν
en    in    Prep
2540 [e]    καιρῷ
kairō    the time - Noun - Dative Masculine SINGULAR
3588 [e]    τοῦ
tou    of the    Art-GMS
2326 [e]    θερισμοῦ
therismou    Harvest -  Noun - Genitive Masculine SINGULAR
2046 [e]    ἐρῶ
erō    I will say    V-FIA-1S
3588 [e]    τοῖς
tois    to the    Art-DMP
2327 [e]    θερισταῖς
theristais    harvesters,    N-DMP
4816 [e]    Συλλέξατε
Syllexate    Gather    V-AMA-2P
4412 [e]    πρῶτον
prōton    first    Adv-S
3588 [e]    τὰ
ta    the    Art-ANP
2215 [e]    ζιζάνια
zizania    weeds,    N-ANP
2532 [e]    καὶ
kai    and    Conj
1210 [e]    δήσατε
dēsate    bind    V-AMA-2P
846 [e]    αὐτὰ
auta    them    PPro-AN3P
1519 [e]    εἰς
eis    into    Prep
1197 [e]    δέσμας
desmas    bundles    N-AFP
4314 [e]    πρὸς
pros    in order    Prep
3588 [e]    τὸ
to    -    Art-ANS
2618 [e]    κατακαῦσαι
katakausai    to burn    V-ANA
846 [e]    αὐτά,
auta    them;    PPro-AN3P
3588 [e]    τὸν
ton    -    Art-AMS
1161 [e]    δὲ
de    and    Conj
4621 [e]    σῖτον
siton    the wheat,    N-AMS
4863 [e]    συναγάγετε
synagagete    gather together    V-AMA-2P
1519 [e]    εἰς
eis    into    Prep
3588 [e]    τὴν
tēn    the    Art-AFS
596 [e]    ἀποθήκην
apothēkēn    barn    N-AFS
1473 [e]    μου.
mou    of me.”’    PPro-G1S

THAT IS THE HARVEST WRITTEN of by the Lord

            SINGULAR NOT PLURAL



BARLEY AND WHEAT HARVESTS  -  DESIGNATION TO THE END TIMES "prt"                      IS DOCTRINE OF MAN


not written in the words of God.  



Just LIKE Noah going into the ARK
having anything to do with PTR,  

DOCTRINES OF MAN predicated solely upon mens conclusions and assumptions and conjecture. 

NEVER ONCE SPOKEN, NEVER ONCE WRITTEN, at least not IN THE WORDS OF GOD



 


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Posted

Again, since it seems it was missed...

ACTS 24:15 STATES  'A resurrection' SINGULAR
'of both' PLURAL
the just and the unjust  



That would be THE DEAD who rise at His return

FROM THE CORRUPTION...OUT FROM THE DEAD...aka NOT TO IMMORTALITY...

acts 
Strong's    Greek    English    Morphology
1680 [e]    ἐλπίδα
elpida    a hope    N-AFS
2192 [e]    ἔχων
echōn    having    V-PPA-NMS
1519 [e]    εἰς
eis    in    Prep
3588 [e]    τὸν
ton    -    Art-AMS
2316 [e]    Θεόν,
Theon    God    N-AMS
3739 [e]    ἣν
hēn    which    RelPro-AFS
2532 [e]    καὶ
kai    also    Conj
846 [e]    αὐτοὶ
autoi    they    PPro-NM3P
3778 [e]    οὗτοι
houtoi    themselves    DPro-NMP
4327 [e]    προσδέχονται,
prosdechontai    await,    V-PIM/P-3P
386 [e]    ἀνάστασιν
anastasin    [that] a resurrection    N-AFS  Noun - Accusative Feminine SINGULAR
3195 [e]    μέλλειν
mellein    there is about    V-PNA
1510 [e]    ἔσεσθαι
esesthai    to be    V-FNM
1342 [e]    δικαίων
dikaiōn    of [the] just    Adj-GMP
5037 [e]    τε
te    both    Conj
2532 [e]    καὶ
kai    and    Conj
94 [e]    ἀδίκων.
adikōn    of [the] unjust.    Adj-GMP








TAKE NOTICE

OF WHAT
THE JUST ARE

AND WHAT THE JUST ARE NOT



1342. dikaios 
Strong's Concordance
dikaios: correct, righteous, by impl. innocent
Original Word: δίκαιος, ία, ιον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: dikaios
Phonetic Spelling: (dik'-ah-yos)
Definition: correct, righteous, by implication innocent
Usage: just; especially, just in the eyes of God; righteous; the elect (a Jewish idea).
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 1342 díkaios (an adjective, derived from dikē, "right, judicial approval") – properly, "approved by God" (J. Thayer); righteous; "just in the eyes of God" (Souter). See 1343 ("dikaiosynē).

["Righteous" relates to conformity to God's standard (justice). For more on the root-idea see the cognate noun, 1343 /dikaiosýnē ("righteousness").]

1342 /díkaios ("righteous, just") describes what is in conformity to God's own being (His will, standard of rightness); hence "upright."

(DOESN'T SAY 'SAVED' OR HAVING RECEIVED THE GIFT OF SALVATION...)

δίκαιος, δίκαια, δίκαιον (from δίκη right) (fr. Homer down), properly, the Hebrew צַדִּיק, "observant of ἡ δίκη, righteous, observing divine and human laws; one who is such as he ought to be; (German rechtbeschaffen; in the earlier language, whence appropriated by Luther,gerecht in a broad sense; in Greek writings used even of physical things, as ἵππος, Xenophon, mem. 4, 4, 5; γήδιον δικαιοτατον, most fertile, Xenophon, Cyril 8, 3, 38; (ἅρμα δίκαιον, ibid. 2, 2, 26));
1. in a wide sense, upright, righteous, virtuous, keeping the commands of God;

a. universally: Matthew 1:19 (the meaning is, it was not consistent with his uprightness to expose his betrothed to public reproach); Matthew 10:41; Matthew 13:43, 49; Matthew 23:28; Matthew 25:37, 46; Luke 1:6, 17; Luke 14:14; Luke 18:9; Luke 20:20; Romans 5:7 (cf. Winer's Grammar, 117 (111)); 1 Timothy 1:9; James 5:6, 16; 1 Peter 3:12; 1 John 3:7 (10 Lachmann); Revelation 22:11; opposed to ἁμαρτωλοί καί ἀσεβεῖς, 1 Peter 4:18; δίκαιοι καί ἄδικοι, Matthew 5:45; Acts 24:15; used of O. T. characters noted for piety and probity: Matthew 13:17; (Matthew 23:29); Hebrews 12:23; thus of Abel, Matthew 23:35; Hebrews 11:4; of Lot, 2 Peter 2:7f. (Wis. 10:4f); of those who seem to themselves to be righteous, who pride themselves on their virtues, whether real or imaginary: Matthew 9:13; Mark 2:17; Luke 5:32; Luke 15:7 (Ecclesiastes 7:17 (16)). Joined with εὐλαβής, Luke 2:25 (ἤθη ἐυλαβαη καί δίκαια, τό δίκαιον καί ἐυλαβες, Plato, polit., p. 311 a. b.); with ἅγιος, Mark 6:20; with ἀγαθός, Luke 23:50; with φοβούμενος τόν Θεόν, Acts 10:22; ἔργα δίκαια, opposite πονηρά, 1 John 3:12. Neuter τό δίκαιον, that which regard for duty demands, what is right: 2 Peter 1:13; plural Philippians 4:8; δίκαιον ἐστι, Ephesians 6:1; Philippians 1:7; with the addition of ἐνώπιον τοῦ Θεοῦ, God being judge, Acts 4:19.


 

94. adikos 
Strong's Concordance
adikos: unjust, unrighteous
Original Word: ἄδικος, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: adikos
Phonetic Spelling: (ad'-ee-kos)
Definition: unjust, unrighteous
Usage: unjust, unrighteous, wicked.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 94 ádikos (an adjective, derived from 1 /A "no" and 1349 /díkē, "justice") – properly, without justice; unjust, because violating what God says is just; divinely disapproved. See 93 (adikia).

94/ádikos ("unjust") is injustice as a breach of divine justice, i.e. in violation of God's standards. 94 /ádikos ("unjust") describes being found guilty in God's court of law, i.e. as a binding, legal infraction against His law which calls for divine retribution for disrespecting true justice.



CAUSE THESE ARE WHO are being CALLING 'SAINTS BEING RAISED IN GLORY' by some...

HOW THAT FITS FOR SOME, MANY, and/or MOST PEOPLE...

I'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND....

 


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Posted
12 hours ago, The Light said:

The 144,000 DO NOT become first fruits UNTIL the harvest of the Gentiles occurs. The harvest of the Gentiles will occur BEFORE the seals are opened.  the 144,000 can become first fruits and be redeemed from the earth.

Additionally after the summer grain harvest which is the dead in Christ and the alive believers that had remained, The 12 tribes across the earth will realize that they have missed the harvest and have not received salvation.

Jeremiah 8

20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.

Through the salvation of the Gentiles, the Jews are provoked to jealousy.

Romans 11

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

The 70th week of Daniel is about the people of Daniel.

Daniel 9

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

The tribulation is the time of Jacobs trouble.

It's time to pull your head out the sand and know that the Lord comes for those who watch for Him soon. Much sooner than you think.

I guess you do not understand the concept about something being “first” which is why I posted the word “clue” by the the word “first” fruits.

Something that is harvested “first” is called a first fruit.  If something is harvested last it is not called a “first fruit”because it was not “the first”to become ripe and the “first”to be harvested like those who were raised up with Jesus.

Salvation, honor, and glory came to the Jew first, not the Gentiles.

Again if you notice, the words of God say these “firstfruits” that are seen in heaven with Christ have already been redeemed from the earth.

 

Revelation 14:3-5
 
King James Version
 
 

And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

 


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12 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

There are (Two) resurrections on the (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second Death) resurrection has no power.

1.) (First Resurrection) To Life

2.) (Second Death) Resurrection To Damnation

Revelation 20:6KJV

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The (Last Day) Resurrection Of All Below

Daniel 12:1-2KJV

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

John 5:28-29KJV

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:39-40KJV

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The (Last Day) Judgement

John 12:48KJV

48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

It is written, that those who are of the first ressurection (at the last day) shall not taste of the second death ( =the lake of fire)

The ressurection of the rest of dead comes “a thousand years later”at the white throne judgment.

Revelation 20

King James Version

20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 “But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.”

This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in “the first resurrection:”on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when “the thousand years are expired,”Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. (Notice a thousand years later)

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”

 


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16 minutes ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

It is written, that those who are of the first ressurection (at the last day) shall not taste of the second death ( =the lake of fire)

The ressurection of the rest of dead comes “a thousand years later”at the white throne judgment.

Revelation 20

King James Version

20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 “But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.”

This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in “the first resurrection:”on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when “the thousand years are expired,”Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. (Notice a thousand years later)

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”

 

I Disagree

There is one future time in the resurrection of all, and it takes place on the last day at the Lord's 2nd coming (The End)

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I Disagree

There is one future time in the resurrection of all, and it takes place on the last day at the Lord's 2nd coming (The End)

“But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.”
 

Believe the words of God.


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15 minutes ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

“But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.”
 

Believe the words of God.

The word "Thousand Years" isn't literal, it represents the Lord's eternal spiritual, where one day is a thousand years, no earthly time

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