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Will the world just continue on, more or less as we are now? Or will there be a 'reset of Civilization' similar to what happened in Noah's time?
I believe the latter, God did destroy the antediluvian peoples and He says He will do it again; this time with fire.  2 Peter 3:1-7
It seems that Noah's society was quite similar to our own today. Just getting on with life as normal. But the similarity that both societies have that our Creator God cannot allow to continue, is how the majority of the people have no regard for and ignore their Maker.
Humans are like self drive cars that have gone off every which way!

A non Christian may ask; Why are we here? They fail to read God's Word that states His intention: To have a people who believe in the Creator God and have chosen of their free will, to keep His Commandments. They will be the ones who will go with God into Eternity, the rest of mankind will not. Revelation 20:11-15


Malachi 3:16-18 Those who feared the Lord talked together and the Lord paid heed and listened. A record was Written before Him of those who feared His and respected His Name.
They will be Mine, says the Lord of Hosts, My own precious possession on the Day that I appoint, for I shall spare them as a man spares the son who serves him.
Once more it will be known who are righteous and who are wicked, between the servant of God and those who do not serve Him.


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On 6/30/2023 at 1:43 PM, douggg said:

In 1967, the Jews regained control of Jerusalem.   A generation, in Psalms 90:10, is 70 years, and if by strength 80 years.

So 1967 + 70 years =- 2037    Jesus will return to this earth by then.

Luke chapter 21 speaks of a future generation of believers that will be present on this earth to be eyewitnesses of the future great tribulation and second coming of Jesus in the heavens

Your date setting at 2037 is in the long list of date setters that have seen their man inspired predictions come and go


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On 6/30/2023 at 8:33 AM, Justin Adams said:

Forget the anit-Christ and abomination and tribulation view that already happened in the 1st century.

Reformed "preterist" teachings are false and not found in the bible

Daniel's AOD, The Great Tribulation are future events unfulfilled


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31 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Luke chapter 21 speaks of a future generation of believers that will be present on this earth to be eyewitnesses of the future great tribulation and second coming of Jesus in the heavens

Luke 21 says the parable of the fig tree generation will not pass away until all things be fulfilled.

You are adding "of believers" to the parable of the fig tree generation.

The rapture timing window is on this chart...

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1 hour ago, douggg said:

Luke 21 says the parable of the fig tree generation will not pass away until all things be fulfilled.

You are adding "of believers" to the parable of the fig tree generation.

The rapture timing window is on this chart...

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Your claims are "False" read the truth below again and again, it's not going to change

You disregard the scripture below as if it dosent exist,, who will be lifting their heads and looking up at the return of Jesus Christ?

The Church will be on this earth to be eyewitnesses of the great tribulation and second coming, just as scripture teaches below

There won't be a pre-trib rapture of the church to heaven as Darby and Scofield taught, the church will be present on earth to be eyewitnesses of the great tribulation and second coming of Jesus in the heavens, just as Jesus taught below

Luke 21:25-28KJV

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.


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10 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

There won't be a pre-trib rapture of the church to heaven as Darby and Scofield taught, the church will be present on earth to be eyewitnesses of the great tribulation and second coming of Jesus in the heavens, just as Jesus taught below

Luke 21:25-28KJV

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

You have stated that already, in your post on page 2,Posted yesterday at 09:43 AM .   

My response has not changed.... here is my copy and paste response to your post on page 2.    If you make the same post over and over, I am just going to copy and paste my response again and again.

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I did not write "pre-trib" rapture.

You did not go far enough in quoting from Luke 21.   

35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

The rapture is the event which Christians have been promised to escape.   

In 1Thessalonians5:9-11.

9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

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So anyone outspoken against the rapture as the way of escaping the great tribulation - will be left behind, as they so desire, to be caught in the snare of the great tribulation.

 

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10 minutes ago, douggg said:

So anyone outspoken against the rapture as the way of escaping the great tribulation - will be left behind, as they so desire, to be caught in the snare of the great tribulation.

No believer "Escapes" the great tribulation as you falsely claim, as the scripture below clearly teaches they will be "Eyewitnesses" of the great tribulation seen in verses 25-26 your claims are "False"

You go even further to state if one denies your false claims in "Escape" they will be left behind, Big Smiles!

You disregard the scripture below as if it dosent exist,, who will be lifting their heads and looking up at the return of Jesus Christ?

The Church will be on this earth to be eyewitnesses of the great tribulation and second coming, just as scripture teaches below

There won't be a "Escape" rapture of the church to heaven, the church will be present on earth to be eyewitnesses of the great tribulation and second coming of Jesus in the heavens, just as Jesus taught below

Luke 21:25-28KJV

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

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1 minute ago, truth7t7 said:

There won't be a pre-trib rapture of the church to heaven as Darby and Scofield taught, the church will be present on earth to be eyewitnesses of the great tribulation and second coming of Jesus in the heavens, just as Jesus taught below

Luke 21:25-28KJV

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

I did not write "pre-trib" rapture.

You did not go far enough in quoting from Luke 21.   

35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

The rapture is the event which Christians have been promised to escape.   

In 1Thessalonians5:9-11.

9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

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So anyone outspoken against the rapture as the way of escaping the great tribulation - will be left behind, as they so desire, to be caught in the snare of the great tribulation.


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9 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

No believer "Escapes" the great tribulation as you falsely claim

Luke 21:35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.


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3 hours ago, douggg said:

Luke 21:35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

The text is speaking of (The Day Of The Lord) that takes place at the second coming (The End)

(THAT DAY COME UPON YOU UNAWARES)

A Single (Day)

(THAT DAY)

Luke 21:33-35KJV

33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.

35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

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