So at what stage are you with smoking?

[farouk]

5 minutes ago, Renskedejonge said:

I don't know.

It was normal in the 90s to smoke behind your desk at the office, but now it's forbidden everywhere. They may not sell it in supermarkets anymore since January this year.

@Renskedejonge I worked in an office where a lady at the desk opposite practically chain smoked; but like you say it's not done in offices now.

It used to be something that was done naturally. Spontaneously. Un-self-consciously. Busy at a desk; lighting up; exhaling vacantly while concentrating on work.

It's good those days are over, in that sense.

[farouk]

Any more poll votes, ppl?

[farouk]

On 10/11/2023 at 11:06 AM, Renskedejonge said:

with free help on the phone and free nicotin patches I stopped with the chewing gum. Took me a few months. Those patches are not addictive.

@Renskedejonge Do yous still find the nicotine patches useful?

Various ppl use different methods........

[RdJ]

11 minutes ago, farouk said:

@Renskedejonge Do yous still find the nicotine patches useful?

Various ppl use different methods........

It worked good. I also used nicotin chewing gum, but that is way too addictive and you get the same thing. I was addicted to the chewing gum for years. The coaching was actually to get rid of that and if you use those patches you get that stuff without a continuous high low and it's not connected to eating anymore. I was very thin. I just ate my hunger away with nicotin chewing gum. When I got patches it was easy to stop. I just started eating instead and in the end that thing itches and stings and I was like: move it with those things. Who gets addicted to bee stings? Lol.

What also helped, I only did it to always stay calm and be the sweet mother, but nicotin only made it way worse, so it was useless and counterproductive. I just needed God's rest again. I always just went toGod for help, but once they put me on pills I replaced His rest with false rest and I did stop with the medical drugs, but replaced it with nicotin, only to always stay calm. What helped way better than nicotin was ear plugs.

 

 

 

Edited February 20, 2024 by Renskedejonge

[farouk]

2 minutes ago, Renskedejonge said:

When I got patches it was easy to stop.

@Renskedejonge

(Funny photo there.........)

So the nicotine patches did work...........

Kind of, in your mind you were still a smoking woman but the patches gave you your nicotine but after a while you didn't need them any more. Various measures can work with differing effects according to the individual and indeed according to whether the person has bee a heavy smoker or not.

(Sounds like you were more than simply a social smoker, but not really a very heavy smoker...)

[RdJ]

58 minutes ago, farouk said:

@Renskedejonge

(Funny photo there.........)

So the nicotine patches did work...........

Kind of, in your mind you were still a smoking woman but the patches gave you your nicotine but after a while you didn't need them any more. Various measures can work with differing effects according to the individual and indeed according to whether the person has bee a heavy smoker or not.

(Sounds like you were more than simply a social smoker, but not really a very heavy smoker...)

No I only started when I was 39 and smoked 2 packages a day for 2 years. Stopped because I felt like choking when I got a cold. And then for 10 years I used nicotin chewing gum. Then you could get free patches if you took a coach, also for free, because they want everyone to quit. Did that. Stopped. My stomach hurt and I had some mood and started again and then the next year I really stopped.

“Ho! Everyone who thirsts, Come to the waters; And you who have no money, Come, buy and eat. Yes, come, buy wine and milk Without money and without price. Why do you spend money for what is not bread, And your wages for what does not satisfy? 
Isaiah 55:1‭-‬2 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/isa.55.1-2.NKJV

Edited February 20, 2024 by Renskedejonge

[farouk]

13 minutes ago, Renskedejonge said:

No I only started when I was 39 and smoked 2 packages a day for 2 years. Stopped because I felt like choking when I got a cold. And then for 10 years I used nicotin chewing gum. Then you could get free patches if you took a coach, also for free, because they want everyone to quit. Did that. Stopped. My stomach hurt and I had some mood and started again and then the next year I really stopped.

@Renskedejonge Glad the quitting really worked...

So 2 packs per day. That's quite heavy smoking. You must have become thoroughly accustomed to nicotine. That's a lot more than social smoking.

[farouk]

On 2/15/2024 at 12:59 PM, FJK said:

The problem with quitting smoking and staying quit is not just simple physical addiction, that usually is is only intense for the first three days and complete in about three months, but the total integration of the ritual of smoking into every aspect of your life. 

 

@FJK Ppl are still smokers in their mind, even as try try to quit...

[farouk]

On 2/20/2024 at 10:47 AM, RdJ said:

I only did it to always stay calm and be the sweet mother...I did stop with the medical drugs, but replaced it with nicotin, only to always stay calm. What helped way better than nicotin was ear plugs.

 

Hi @RdJ Yes, I can see that for some ppl in their personal experience nicotine can become part of motherhood. But I know also what you mean about shutting out noise to keep calm. Glad you finally quit, anyway.

[Marathoner]

Ah, I forgot about this particular poll you had going, @farouk. Everyone makes a point which testifies to the truth that different things work for different people. 

I tossed tobacco aside and didn't experience withdrawals. That's because I was delivered. Not everyone is... sometimes, the Lord requires us to endure something. The only issue I experienced was what @FJK referred to regarding rituals associated with smoking. That meant more than the tobacco itself. Ceasing from those habits and rituals required effort.

Smoking was the "ritual" I engaged in whenever I wanted to sequester myself and consider a matter at length. It was also an opportunity to do that with other smokers or socialize with them as it were.