FJK Posted November 1, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.33 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, The Barbarian said: Recessive genes don't become dominant unless a mutation changes them. Which as you know, is evolution. In this case, the recessive allele remained recessive, but natural selection began to remove the dominant allele. Is that why Redheads are considered a different species? Consider: 1Cointhians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God; for it is written, "He takes the wise in their own craftiness." (MKJV) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyv Posted November 1, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,265 Content Per Day: 2.86 Reputation: 2,302 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/03/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, FJK said: Is that why Redheads are considered a different species? Consider: 1Cointhians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God; for it is written, "He takes the wise in their own craftiness." (MKJV) He said nothing about speciation here. Strawman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJK Posted November 1, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.33 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, teddyv said: He said nothing about speciation here. Strawman. So evolution is not the subject of this discussion? Then what is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyv Posted November 1, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,265 Content Per Day: 2.86 Reputation: 2,302 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/03/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2023 4 hours ago, FJK said: So evolution is not the subject of this discussion? Then what is? Of course it is, but you are bringing up an argument no one has made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted November 1, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,132 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 983 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2023 Recessive genes don't become dominant unless a mutation changes them. Which as you know, is evolution. In this case, the recessive allele remained recessive, but natural selection began to remove the dominant allele. 5 hours ago, FJK said: Is that why Redheads are considered a different species? I had no idea creationists thought redheads are a separate species. There are no biological human races today. We certainly don't have separate species. Most creationists gave that up decades ago. 5 hours ago, teddyv said: He said nothing about speciation here. Strawman. I think he was sincere. Creationists used to be polygenists, considering black people to not be descendants of Adam and Eve. I had no idea that some of them might still think so. 4 hours ago, FJK said: So evolution is not the subject of this discussion? As you illustrate, people who think they hate evolution, have no idea what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted November 1, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,132 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 983 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Starise said: You didn't get out from under it. As you just learned, the evidence shows transitional forms still in existence. Most creationists abandoned this one decades ago. 5 hours ago, Starise said: A discredit the source. As you see, the original perpetrator finally admitted that he had his facts entirely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozart's Starling Posted November 1, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 268 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 219 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/18/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/27/1990 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) Bit blown a way I'm on a Christian site and reading people arguing that we came from apes, scoffing at creationism, and twisting the very plain and straightforward text of Genesis. If you don't believe it move on, don't pervert and mangle what is clearly written down. Edited November 1, 2023 by Mozart's Starling 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_Wizard Posted November 2, 2023 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 803 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 341 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/05/1962 Share Posted November 2, 2023 12 hours ago, Mozart's Starling said: Bit blown a way I'm on a Christian site and reading people arguing that we came from apes, scoffing at creationism, and twisting the very plain and straightforward text of Genesis. If you don't believe it move on, don't pervert and mangle what is clearly written down. I agree. Why not just admit they don't believe it? Next they will be saying that Christ wasn't crucified. He was just fired and lost His company camel benefits. When you take a few words from the middle of sentence and pretend it means the opposite of what is written, that's dishonest. Why spend your time trying to drive a wedge between Christians and their Bible? Our enemies are already doing that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJK Posted November 2, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.33 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, RV_Wizard said: Why spend your time trying to drive a wedge between Christians and their Bible? Our enemies are already doing that. And I would add, anyone doing that is our enemy, Know who your enemy is, how he works and where he is working if you want to be victorious over him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted November 15, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 280 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 13,162 Content Per Day: 9.57 Reputation: 13,746 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 From what I can tell so far, those who disagree will attempt to present a "new discovery" which when analyized is as full of holes as the rest of them. They then make anything I present into an "old unreliable discovery" Their "new evidence" supposedly unravels what they call my "old evidence" It's a standard argument technique intended to disarm the other side. Yet "Old" discoveries still stand and "new" discoveries are no longer new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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