Scott Free Posted February 2 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,276 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 290 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 2 On 1/30/2024 at 6:34 PM, RV_Wizard said: That is the great lie of evolution The Bible is intended to be theological messaging. Using the Bible as a source for empirical scientific research is misappropriating the purpose of God's written Word. It is like using a car to perform surgery because it drove them to the hospital. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJK Posted February 2 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.58 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2 46 minutes ago, Scott Free said: The Bible is intended to be theological messaging. Using the Bible as a source for empirical scientific research is misappropriating the purpose of God's written Word. It is like using a car to perform surgery because it drove them to the hospital. Is this implying that the Bible should be considered in secondary source of Truth compared to other sources that are more knowledgeable and reliable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Free Posted February 2 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,276 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 290 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, FJK said: Is this implying that the Bible should be considered in secondary source of Truth What do you mean by "truth"? The science of today will be as ridiculous tomorrow as Victorian science is to us today. The Bible glosses over the exact mechanics of creation. Much of it is speculation on our part, but the Ideal of God being the source of an orderly universe and Jesus' prophecies and fulfillment stand the test of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJK Posted February 2 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.58 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2 11 minutes ago, Scott Free said: The Bible glosses over the exact mechanics of creation. Genesis 2:7 " The LORD God took a handful of soil and made a man. God breathed life into the man, and the man started breathing." (CEV) seems rather exact to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Free Posted February 2 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,276 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 290 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, FJK said: Genesis 2:7 " The LORD God took a handful of soil and made a man. God breathed life into the man, and the man started breathing." (CEV) seems rather exact to me. So, a handful of soil to God is exactly like us picking up dirt? Is the phrase "God breathed life into man," a literal, detailed description of what exactly transpired physiologically? Or is it something said simply so we can get our heads around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJK Posted February 2 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.58 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, Scott Free said: So, a handful of soil to God is exactly like us picking up dirt? Is the phrase "God breathed life into man," a literal, detailed description of what exactly transpired physiologically? Or is it something said simply so we can get our heads around it. Just do the same and you'll show how it's really done. BTW, don't use God's dirt, create your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 2 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,262 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,990 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2 The problem starts when people start considering the Bible as a science book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Free Posted February 2 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,276 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 290 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, FJK said: Just do the same and you'll show how it's really done. BTW, don't use God's dirt, create your own. To create, say a computer from scratch. You would not just squeeze sand together. You would go through a series of very complex steps. The same with creating a garden planet from only hydrogen as a starting material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Free Posted February 2 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,276 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 290 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 2 (edited) 14 minutes ago, other one said: The problem starts when people start considering the Bible as a science book. God's Word is so much more. It is interesting debating Creationist when they substitute the Gospel for this. Being threatened by the worlds partial understanding shows insecurity, not faith. Edited February 2 by Scott Free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJK Posted February 2 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.58 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Scott Free said: To create, say a computer from scratch. You would not just squeeze sand together. You would go through a series of very complex steps. The same with creating a garden planet from only hydrogen as a starting material. You seem to be implying that man has the same power of creation of God or that God has no greater power to create than man. I think this thinking is in error. FWIW, Hydrogen is built from smaller particles which are also built from smaller particles and those smaller particles themselves being built from smaller particles, or so science tells us, so where did all that stuff that was brought into existence in Genesis 1:1 actually come from? (Duct taping your head to keep it from exploding is advised before pursuing this too deeply) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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