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12 minutes ago, douggg said:

No, they are not.   But what I am pointing out to you is that those ten nations you list don't have the military strength to carry out the will of the kingdom of the beast.    i.e. they are not collectively, the kingdom of the beast.

All gentile, yes.    But not Global Government.   Instead, the kingdom of the ten kings who hand their kingdom over to the beast - to be dictator of it.

Revelation 17:                                                                                                                              16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

 

douggg, did you see a video or read about what some Hamas did to civilians in Israel in October. That should be chilling enough for anyone to realize that they are demonically controlled. 

The A/C, as I said will deceive the nations to start with so he wont use military at first. And by the time the A/C has his so-called resurrection the whole world (generally speaking) is in awe of him.

`Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?` (Rev. 13: 4) 

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21 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Actually MM, only Iran and Libya and Ethiopia go with the Russian Federation. And they are Shi-ites of Islam. The Sunni side of Islam does not get annihilated.

Here are the Sunnis - Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Omar, Yemen and Saudi Arabia. (10 .....heard of 10 kings before?)

Your list is not depicted in Nebby's Statue.  Rome is the last Kingdom of the statue.  None other exist. Your 10 nations of Sunni's did not come out of Rome.  One must look to who is aligning itself with Rome or who is Rome aligning itself with.  Those will be the 10 nations of iron mixed with clay.

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3 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

douggg, did you see a video or read about what some Hamas did to civilians in Israel in October. That should be chilling enough for anyone to realize that they are demonically controlled. 

The A/C, as I said will deceive the nations to start with so he wont use military at first. And by the time the A/C has his so-called resurrection the whole world (generally speaking) is in awe of him.

`Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?` (Rev. 13: 4) 

Marilyn,

The willful king (the beast-king) Daniel 11:36, will honuur the God of forces.  It is talking about his military.

38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

Then near the end of the 7 years, as the king of the west,  he becomes involved in battles with the king of the north, the south, and the east, all attacking him,  in Daniel 11:40-45.    As a prelude to Armageddon to bring all nations into the middle east with their militaries.

So he and his ten king kingdom have to have a strong military.   The ten Muslim nations you listed don't have that sort of military capability.

As king of the west, the EU will probably be allied by the United States and Canada.

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21 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Your list is not depicted in Nebby's Statue.  Rome is the last Kingdom of the statue.  None other exist. Your 10 nations of Sunni's did not come out of Rome.  One must look to who is aligning itself with Rome or who is Rome aligning itself with.  Those will be the 10 nations of iron mixed with clay.

In Christ

Montana Marv

That`s right MM, the Lord is only giving the big picture with the Great Image, we are not told who the 10 toes will be. However, God does give more detail to Danile and other Prophets.

1. Dan. 2. Great Image - overview of the Gentile Rulers of the world. 

2. Dan. 7: 7 & 8. Fourth beastly kingdom has 10 horns/powers and one that will come up among them. 

3. Dan. 8: 23 - 25 the description of the fierce king who will deceive the nations.

   Dan. 11: 21 - 45 more description.

4. Dan. 11: 15 The King of the North. This is the region of the Seleucid Dynasty when Alexander`s Empire was divided up. (Iraq, Syria & Jordan)

5. Isa. 31: 4 - 8 The Assyrian is destroyed. (from region of ancient Assyria - Iraq, Syria & Jordan.)

6. Isa. 14: 12 - 17 The King of Babylon. Satan is behind this person. (Babylon is being rebuilt in Iraq.)

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20 hours ago, douggg said:

Marilyn,

The willful king (the beast-king) Daniel 11:36, will honuur the God of forces.  It is talking about his military.

38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

Then near the end of the 7 years, as the king of the west,  he becomes involved in battles with the king of the north, the south, and the east, all attacking him,  in Daniel 11:40-45.    As a prelude to Armageddon to bring all nations into the middle east with their militaries.

So he and his ten king kingdom have to have a strong military.   The ten Muslim nations you listed don't have that sort of military capability.

As king of the west, the EU will probably be allied by the United States and Canada.

I agree the beast/king will gather his forces but not till he is in power - the last 3 1/2 years. The trib, is nearly 7 years long.

When he does come to power he is the King of the North. That is the region of the Seleucid Dynasty when Alexander`s Empire was divided up. (Iraq, Syria & Jordan) 

The king of the North overwhelms others. (Dan. 11: 40) He is the one spoken about in Dan. 11: 15 - 45. His power base is 3 nations (Iraq, Syria & Jordan) to start with, then the 10 kings of the Islamic Federation (3 & 7) give him their power. Finally, most of the world joins him, (Rev. 13: 3 & 4).

The demonic army in people of 200 million go throughout the world killing a third of mankind. (Rev. 9: 13 - 19)

 

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51 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

The king of the North overwhelms others. (Dan. 11: 40) He is the one spoken about in Dan. 11: 15 - 45. His power base is 3 nations (Iraq, Syria & Jordan) to start with, then the 10 kings of the Islamic Federation (3 & 7) give him their power. Finally, most of the world joins him, (Rev. 13: 3 & 4).

The demonic army in people of 200 million go throughout the world killing a third of mankind. (Rev. 9: 13 - 19)

To bring all nations to battle in Zechariah 14, will require the armies from the four cardinal directions relevant to Jerusalem be drawn into the middle east first.

West, North, South, East.

In Daniel 11:40 -45, first the king of the South attack "him".   The "him" is the beast-king, king of the West.  

Then seeing that taking place, the King of the North attacks "him".    Then after a quick set of victories by the king of the West,  news out of the north and east alarm "him".    The kings of the east and their massive armies.

As the 200,000,000 size kings of the east armies start moving west to the middle east, they will kill a third of mankind on their way - mostly in India and Pakistan it appears.

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18 hours ago, douggg said:

To bring all nations to battle in Zechariah 14, will require the armies from the four cardinal directions relevant to Jerusalem be drawn into the middle east first.

West, North, South, East.

In Daniel 11:40 -45, first the king of the South attack "him".   The "him" is the beast-king, king of the West.  

Then seeing that taking place, the King of the North attacks "him".    Then after a quick set of victories by the king of the West,  news out of the north and east alarm "him".    The kings of the east and their massive armies.

As the 200,000,000 size kings of the east armies start moving west to the middle east, they will kill a third of mankind on their way - mostly in India and Pakistan it appears.

`The King of the North will return and muster a multitude greater than the former, and shall certainly come at the end of some years with a great army and much equipment.....

The King of the North shall come and build a siege mound and take a fortified city; and the forces of the South shall not withstand him.` (Dan. 11: 13 & 15)

It is the king of the North who is in power, from the former Seleucid Dynasty when Alexander`s Empire was divided up. (Iraq, Syria & Jordan) That is why there is `N,S,E,W, for Alexander`s Empire was divided up between four Generals. 

There is NO mention about `king of the West.` 

The great army is not from the East, but from the Middle East.

"Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates." So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind. Now the number of the army of the horsemen was 200 million;...` (Rev. 9: 14 - 16)

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55 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

The great army is not from the East, but from the Middle East.

"Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates." So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind. Now the number of the army of the horsemen was 200 million;...` (Rev. 9: 14 - 16)

The four angels (bad angels) who will have been bound from crossing the great river Euphrates - will be able to near the end of the 7 years.    The kjv says that the four angels are bound "in" the great river Euphrates.

Either way, they will be spiritual influencers over the kings of the east.    

Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

The kings of the east will march their massive armies westward and will kill a third of mankind along the way to attack the beast-king.      The beast-king is not the king of the north, because he originates from north and west of Israel in Daniel 8:9.

The battles in Daniel 11:40-45 are not battles involving only the king of the north and king of the south.

 

 

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12 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

That`s right MM, the Lord is only giving the big picture with the Great Image, we are not told who the 10 toes will be. However, God does give more detail to Danile and other Prophets.

The Statue is the only picture.  The ten toes come out of Rome, the 4th Kingdom.  Then what you are saying is that the Sunni's (Muslims) are aligning themselves with Rome (RCC) roman catholic church and the rest of the West (Europe) does not align themselves with Rome.  So you must believe in two sets of Ten nations.

In Christ

Montana Marv

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13 hours ago, douggg said:

The four angels (bad angels) who will have been bound from crossing the great river Euphrates - will be able to near the end of the 7 years.    The kjv says that the four angels are bound "in" the great river Euphrates.

Either way, they will be spiritual influencers over the kings of the east.    

Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

The kings of the east will march their massive armies westward and will kill a third of mankind along the way to attack the beast-king.      The beast-king is not the king of the north, because he originates from north and west of Israel in Daniel 8:9.

The battles in Daniel 11:40-45 are not battles involving only the king of the north and king of the south.

 

 

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Yes, that does look like just before Armageddon. However, it is not at this time -

`And all the world marveled and followed the beast. So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, "Who is like the beast, Who is able to make war with him?"  (Rev. 13: 3 & 4)

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