R. Hartono Posted March 23 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,937 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted March 23 Like history shows the medieval European kingdoms colonized and killed and robbed the other parts of the world, and established their government in the name of God. Will you accept such a model in this modern civilization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted March 23 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,942 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,867 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Online Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted March 23 24 minutes ago, R. Hartono said: Like history shows the medieval European kingdoms colonized and killed and robbed the other parts of the world, and established their government in the name of God. Will you accept such a model in this modern civilization. There was much inhospitability and hostility from the residing tribes of NZ towards the Europeans explorers who had sailed a long way to take notes and make reports, and so the fights began. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted March 23 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,937 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Michael37 said: There was much inhospitability and hostility from the residing tribes of NZ towards the Europeans explorers who had sailed a long way to take notes and make reports, and so the fights began. God could send all plagues of Egypt to banish wicked inhabitants , why ask people to commit genocide young and old ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted March 23 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,942 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,867 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Online Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted March 23 34 minutes ago, R. Hartono said: God could send all plagues of Egypt to banish wicked inhabitants , why ask people to commit genocide young and old ? What Scriptures are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted March 23 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 952 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,569 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,049 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted March 23 7 hours ago, R. Hartono said: Like history shows the medieval European kingdoms colonized and killed and robbed the other parts of the world, and established their government in the name of God. Will you accept such a model in this modern civilization. Have not Korean , Japanese, and Chinese peoples been doing a great job of waring one against another for centuries now? Why would one think peace will come if only they were without European interests also vying for some of what the "locals" fight over? This "modern civilization" as you call it has never been especially civil far as what I have seen of it. Doesn't much matter the nation the race or religion, mankind simply does not, on the whole, accept humility under God's commands. Our hope is not in modern civilization. Our hope certain is Yeshua, God's plan the scarlet thread of redemption of man by the willing sacrifice made by God the son our Lord Jesus. Maranatha! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RdJ Posted March 23 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 65 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,087 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 600 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/25/1970 Share Posted March 23 7 hours ago, R. Hartono said: Like history shows the medieval European kingdoms colonized and killed and robbed the other parts of the world, and established their government in the name of God. Will you accept such a model in this modern civilization. No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJK Posted March 23 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.94 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted March 23 It is said that peace is what is left when all of your enemies are dead. Anything else is just the planning stage fof the next war. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted March 24 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,937 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 24 On 3/23/2024 at 1:02 PM, Michael37 said: What Scriptures are you referring to? The Hebrew made never ending war for the promised land since they escaped from Egypt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueFollowerOfChrist Posted March 24 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,039 Content Per Day: 1.62 Reputation: 589 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/26/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted March 24 No one should ever kill in the name of religion. That sounds really dumb to me. However if like the ancient Israelites God commanded me to execute Justice on a evil pagan oppressive Nation, and I knew 100% that the command was from God I would absolutely obey it without hesitation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted March 24 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,820 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 4,806 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 24 6 hours ago, R. Hartono said: The Hebrew made never ending war for the promised land since they escaped from Egypt. You are not exactly telling that story correctly. Here's the truth of the Bible. [1] God called Abraham to be the father of a new nation. Genesis 12. [2] He told Abraham in Genesis 15:12-16 that his descendants would one day be imprisoned for 400 years by a strange country that they don't know [Egyptians]. [3] God said this would it take this long because THE SINS OF THOSE PEOPLE WAS NOT FULL YET. [4] From the time God said this to Abraham to the time his descendants were enslaved and 400 years passed, it totaled about 600 years. God GAVE those people who took over a land that God had given to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob SIX HUNDRED years to repent. And some did. The first person God rescued from those people before the Israelites crossed over was a whore named Rahab. God is MERCIFUL. He waited until the sins of those people had reached the point of no return. He spared, however, countless people INCLUDING some of those Egyptians and people of other nations who escaped WITH God's people. God did not just go in willy-nilly and just start slaughtering people. He gave them time to change. Those that did became his people. Those that did not were destroyed. And in those that were destroyed, those too young to understand personal sin will be with us in heaven. I could cite you time after time after time in the Old Testament that God was merciful to people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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