Many Are Called....

[Crusader4Christ]

It could just mean that God knew us before creation, He knew that He would

create us. He knew all of our strengths, weaknesses, talents, personalities, appearances, and He even knew every thought we would ever think, even before the Universe was created!

But always remember this: God has never thought a thing, for He knows everything already! He needs know no time to think ( because time doesn't

exist for God anyways.) We need to think, God doesn't. He knows all before

anyone can even get it into their thoughts!

God knew us alright, but, did we know Him?

[wordsower]

Guys,

This is some dangerous doctrine. The Bible says that we are dead to God before we are His, we don't have any pre-exisitant spirit. He knew us before we were born because He doesn't exist in time and everything is present with God. That is something we can not understand in our 3 dimensional world. I will look up direct scriptures and post them a little later.

This is new age theology...don't mean to upset anyone...love yall!

I think that God's foreknowledge of Jeremiah, doesn't mean that Jeremiah had a pre-mortal existence. The Mormons use that verse, along with John 1:2, and 14, to show that we had a pre-mortal existence, but I'm not sure I understand it that way.

Genesis 2

[7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

After Adam's flesh was created, then he became a living soul. I believe it's flesh first, then spirit. Until I can find something solid, I'll probably hold to this belief.

If the earth did have some kind of life before God created man, it doesn't mean that our spirits were here, or that we were here then. The thing I'm concerned about, is there isn't any solid scriptural proof for this that I know of, and I do know that some of the false religions hold to this teaching in one form or another. It could go right in with reincarnation and a lot of othe

AMEN Calamity

[Guest zebulon]

I think its kind of funny the way most believers will label something "dangerous" or "Heretical"

or "new age" -- but when they discover something is biblically sound, its "inspired!" and "wonderful." Too reactionary. There's nothing dangerous OR new age about this idea. It's not a salvific issue. There is ample evidence for a first earth age, but whether we were in existence in any sense at all simply is not revealed. So, for speculation, it's harmless.

[Crusader4Christ]

Quote from WS:

Guys,

This is some dangerous doctrine. The Bible says that we are dead to God before we are His, we don't have any pre-exisitant spirit. He knew us before we were born because He doesn't exist in time and everything is present with God. That is something we can not understand in our 3 dimensional world. I will look up direct scriptures and post them a little later.

This is new age theology...don't mean to upset anyone...love yall!

WS...

Brother, did I not mention that before?

Like I said, He knew us, but I doubt we knew Him.

God bless you brothers and sisters.

[Guest Calamity]

zebulon said:

"There's nothing dangerous OR new age about this idea."

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I have to disagree with this. Out of curiosity, I asked this question at a different place:

"Does anybody believe that we had any kind of spiritual pre-mortal existence? If so, why, and if not, why? Scriptures would be good. Thanks. "

And, in the replies, the only ones that thought we had a pre-existence were non-Christian (by their own admission), and adhere to various New Age teachings.

A sampling of responses to the above question:

"You have always existed. You always will. There will never be a time in which you are not alive. This is what was meant by "created in my image" and "the alpha and the omega". As a part of the Oneness that is all and God, you are infinite and timeless."

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"I haven't actually heard this specifically verbalized as the meaning behind in "my image,' but that is consistant with my belief that ALL consciouness has always existed. Quite a logical interpretation...yes! Great insight..

Oh yeah...... the All that IS! **smiles**"

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"Not just the Mormons - nor did it originate with them. I am not Mormon.

Why, it originated with God!"

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"There's nothing I can say or do that would prove it to you. It's something that you will have to discover for yourself. Or not. It is your choice. However, there are a lot of things that people say in here that they back up with scripture from the Bible. I do not consider that (in a lot of cases) to be proof.

I believe (not 100% sure) that you could find similar ideas in some of the eastern philosophies or some of the really ancient religions (Zoroastrism, etc.). I'm just saying that the idea didn't originate with the Mormons.

I know what I know. I AM that I AM ."

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Sounds a bit New Age to me. At least they, and the Mormons, are the ones who seem to hold to that teaching more so than most other people.

[Crusader4Christ]

Very interesting...

Very nice post Calamity. How many has that been? 10? 12?

You seem to write the best posts around here.

God bless you sister.

[Guest Calamity]

Thank you, crusader I'm trying. I think there's a lot of people here with a lot of insight and knowledge of God's Word, and I like reading them all, hoping to learn more.

[Catsmeow]

I agree, Calamity..I always enjoy your kind posts...they lift me up and are very edifying, Sister. Blessings to you..

[Crusader4Christ]

Yes, Calamity has some really good posts. So do you Cats. I have seen at least 10 or 11 awesome posts from you as well.

[Catsmeow]

Yeah, out of what? Two Thousand plus posts....

Jus' kiddin' bruh...