Israel & Palestinian Situation - Significantly Driven by Extremists

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Before some people become to heated, I think this discussion platform can be very educational for all coming to these worthy boards especially to find salvation in Christ Jesus and also understanding further topics of discussion using Gods Word as well as discussion how this world views things  and is  moving onwards.

These discussion topics, make me think and also research more and see where Gods plan through the bible, Gods Word fits into all this.

 

Here is what Wikipedia says:

In modern times, the first person to self-describe Palestine's Arabs as "Palestinians" was Khalil Beidas in 1898, followed by Salim Quba'in and Najib Nassar in 1902. After the 1908 Young Turk Revolution, which eased press censorship laws in the Ottoman Empire, dozens of newspapers and periodicals were founded in Palestine, and the term "Palestinian" expanded in usage. Among those were the Al-Quds, Al-Munadi, Falastin, Al-Karmil and Al-Nafir newspapers, which used the term "Filastini" more than 170 times in 110 articles from 1908 to 1914. They also made references to a "Palestinian society", "Palestinian nation", and a "Palestinian diaspora".

 

 

 

 

So about who is a Palestinian,This is what Wikipedia has to say:

Palestinians (Arabic: الفلسطينيون, al-Filasṭīniyyūn; Hebrew: פָלַסְטִינִים, Fālasṭīnīm) or Palestinian people (الشعب الفلسطيني, ash-sha‘b al-Filasṭīnī), also referred to as Palestinian Arabs (العرب الفلسطينيون, al-ʿArab al-Filasṭīniyyūn), are an ethnonational group^{[30][31][32][33][34][35][36]} descending from peoples who have inhabited the region of Palestine over the millennia, and who today are culturally and linguistically Arab

 

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"Palestinian" redirects here. For other uses, see Palestinian (disambiguation).

Palestinians

الفلسطينيون (Arabic) al-Filasṭīniyyūn
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Flag_of_Palestine.svg/220px-Flag_of_Palestine.svg.png Flag of Palestine
Total population
14.3 million[1]
Regions with significant populations
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Flag_of_Palestine.svg/23px-Flag_of_Palestine.svg.png State of Palestine
5,350,000[1]
– West Bank	3,190,000[1] (of whom 809,738 are registered refugees as of 2017)[2][3][4]
– Gaza Strip	2,170,000 (of whom 1,386,455 are registered refugees as of 2018)[1][5][2][3]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Flag_of_Jordan.svg/23px-Flag_of_Jordan.svg.png Jordan	2,175,491 (2017, registered refugees only)[2]–3,240,000 (2009)[6]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Flag_of_Israel.svg/21px-Flag_of_Israel.svg.png Israel	2,037,000 [7]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Flag_of_Syria.svg/23px-Flag_of_Syria.svg.png Syria	568,530 (2021, registered refugees only)[2]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Flag_of_Chile.svg/23px-Flag_of_Chile.svg.png Chile	500,000[8][dead link][dubious – discuss]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Flag_of_Saudi_Arabia.svg/23px-Flag_of_Saudi_Arabia.svg.png Saudi Arabia	400,000[9]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Flag_of_Qatar.svg/23px-Flag_of_Qatar.svg.png Qatar	295,000[9]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States	255,000[10]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Emirates.svg/23px-Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Emirates.svg.png United Arab Emirates	200,000[11]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/Flag_of_Lebanon.svg/23px-Flag_of_Lebanon.svg.png Lebanon	174,000 (2017 census)[12]–458,369 (2016, registered refugees)[2]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/Flag_of_Honduras.svg/23px-Flag_of_Honduras.svg.png Honduras	27,000–200,000[9][13]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/ba/Flag_of_Germany.svg/23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany	100,000[14]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Flag_of_Kuwait.svg/23px-Flag_of_Kuwait.svg.png Kuwait	80,000[15]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Flag_of_Egypt.svg/23px-Flag_of_Egypt.svg.png Egypt	70,000[9]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Flag_of_El_Salvador.svg/23px-Flag_of_El_Salvador.svg.png El Salvador	70,000[16]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png Brazil	59,000[17]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Libya.svg/23px-Flag_of_Libya.svg.png Libya	59,000[9]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Flag_of_Iraq.svg/23px-Flag_of_Iraq.svg.png Iraq	57,000[18]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg/23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.png Canada	50,975[19]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Flag_of_Yemen.svg/23px-Flag_of_Yemen.svg.png Yemen	29,000[9]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png United Kingdom	20,000[20]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Flag_of_Peru.svg/23px-Flag_of_Peru.svg.png Peru	15,000[citation needed]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Flag_of_Mexico.svg/23px-Flag_of_Mexico.svg.png Mexico	13,000[9]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Flag_of_Colombia.svg/23px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png Colombia	12,000[9]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg/23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png Netherlands	9,000–15,000[21]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.svg/23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.svg.png Australia	7,000 (est.) [a][22][23]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4c/Flag_of_Sweden.svg/23px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png Sweden	7,000[24]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Flag_of_Algeria.svg/23px-Flag_of_Algeria.svg.png Algeria	4,030[25]
Languages
In Palestine and Israel: Arabic, Hebrew, English Diaspora: Local varieties of Arabic and languages of host countries for the Palestinian diaspora
Religion
Majority: Sunni Islam Minority: Christianity (various denominations), non-denominational Islam, Druzism, Samaritanism,[26][27] Shia Islam[28]
Related ethnic groups
Jordanians, Lebanese, Syrians and other Arabs[29]

Palestinians (Arabic: الفلسطينيون, al-Filasṭīniyyūn; Hebrew: פָלַסְטִינִים, Fālasṭīnīm) or Palestinian people (الشعب الفلسطيني, ash-sha‘b al-Filasṭīnī), also referred to as Palestinian Arabs (العرب الفلسطينيون, al-ʿArab al-Filasṭīniyyūn), are an ethnonational group^{[30][31][32][33][34][35][36]} descending from peoples who have inhabited the region of Palestine over the millennia, and who today are culturally and linguistically Arab.^{[37][38][39][40][41][42][43][44][45]}

Despite various wars and exoduses, roughly one half of the world's Palestinian population continues to reside in the territory of former Mandatory Palestine, now encompassing Israel and the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.^[46] In Israel proper, Palestinians constitute almost 21 percent of the population as part of its Arab citizens.^[47] Many are Palestinian refugees or internally displaced Palestinians, including more than a million in the Gaza Strip,^[48] around 750,000 in the West Bank,^[49] and around 250,000 in Israel proper. Of the Palestinian population who live abroad, known as the Palestinian diaspora, more than half are stateless, lacking legal citizenship in any country.^[50] 2.1 million of the diaspora population are registered as refugees in neighboring Jordan, most of whom hold Jordanian citizenship;^[51][52] over 1 million live between Syria and Lebanon, and about 750,000 live in Saudi Arabia, with Chile holding the largest Palestinian diaspora concentration (around half a million) outside of the Arab world.

 

In 1919, Palestinian Muslims and Palestinian Christians constituted 90 percent of the population of Palestine, just before the third wave of Jewish immigration and the setting up of British Mandatory Palestine after World War I.^[53][54] Opposition to Jewish immigration spurred the consolidation of a unified national identity, though Palestinian society was still fragmented by regional, class, religious, and family differences.^[55][56] The history of the Palestinian national identity is a disputed issue amongst scholars.^[57][58] For some, the term "Palestinian" is used to refer to the nationalist concept of a Palestinian people by Palestinian Arabs from the late 19th century and in the pre-World War I period, while others assert the Palestinian identity encompasses the heritage of all eras from biblical times up to the Ottoman period.^[43][44][59] After the Israeli Declaration of Independence, the 1948 Palestinian expulsion, and more so after the 1967 Palestinian exodus, the term "Palestinian" evolved into a sense of a shared future in the form of aspirations for a Palestinian state.^[43]

Founded in 1964, the Palestine Liberation Organization is an umbrella organization for groups that represent the Palestinian people before international states.^[60] The Palestinian National Authority, officially established in 1994 as a result of the Oslo Accords, is an interim administrative body nominally responsible for governance in Palestinian population centres in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.^[61] Since 1978, the United Nations has observed an annual International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People. According to British historian Perry Anderson, it is estimated that half of the population in the Palestinian territories are refugees, and that they have collectively suffered approximately US$300 billion in property losses due to Israeli confiscations, at 2008–2009 prices

Etymology

See also: Timeline of the name Palestine

The Greek toponym Palaistínē (Παλαιστίνη), which is the origin of the Arabic Filasṭīn (فلسطين), first occurs in the work of the 5th century BCE Greek historian Herodotus, where it denotes generally^[63] the coastal land from Phoenicia down to Egypt.^[64][65] Herodotus also employs the term as an ethnonym, as when he speaks of the "Syrians of Palestine" or "Palestinian-Syrians",^[66] an ethnically amorphous group he distinguishes from the Phoenicians.^[67][68] Herodotus makes no distinction between the inhabitants of Palestine.^[69]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Medieval_Arab_Palestine.jpg/220px-Medieval_Arab_Palestine.jpg A depiction of Syria and Palestine from CE 650 to 1500

The Greek word reflects an ancient Eastern Mediterranean-Near Eastern word which was used either as a toponym or ethnonym. In Ancient Egyptian Peleset/Purusati^[70] has been conjectured to refer to the "Sea Peoples", particularly the Philistines.^[71][72] Among Semitic languages, Akkadian Palaštu (variant Pilištu) is used of 7th-century Philistia and its, by then, four city states.^[73] Biblical Hebrew's cognate word Plištim, is usually translated Philistines.^[74]

When the Romans conquered the region in the first century BCE, they used the name Judaea for the province that covered most of the region. At the same time, the name Syria Palestina continued to be used by historians and geographers to refer to the area between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River, as in the writings of Philo, Josephus and Pliny the Elder. During the early 2nd century CE, Syria Palaestina became the official administrative name in a move viewed by scholars as an attempt by emperor Hadrian to disassociate Jews from the land as punishment for the Bar Kokhba revolt.^[75][76][77] Jacobson suggested the change to be rationalized by the fact that the new province was far larger.^[78][79] The name was thenceforth inscribed on coins, and beginning in the fifth century, mentioned in rabbinic texts.^[75][80][81] The Arabic word Filastin has been used to refer to the region since the time of the earliest medieval Arab geographers. It appears to have been used as an Arabic adjectival noun in the region since as early as the 7th century

 

In modern times, the first person to self-describe Palestine's Arabs as "Palestinians" was Khalil Beidas in 1898, followed by Salim Quba'in and Najib Nassar in 1902. After the 1908 Young Turk Revolution, which eased press censorship laws in the Ottoman Empire, dozens of newspapers and periodicals were founded in Palestine, and the term "Palestinian" expanded in usage. Among those were the Al-Quds, Al-Munadi, Falastin, Al-Karmil and Al-Nafir newspapers, which used the term "Filastini" more than 170 times in 110 articles from 1908 to 1914. They also made references to a "Palestinian society", "Palestinian nation", and a "Palestinian diaspora". Article writers included Christian and Muslim Arab Palestinians, Palestinian emigrants, and non-Palestinian Arabs.^[83][84] The Palestinian Arab Christian Falastin newspaper had addressed its readers as Palestinians since its inception in 1911 during the Ottoman period

During the Mandatory Palestine period, the term "Palestinian" was used to refer to all people residing there, regardless of religion or ethnicity, and those granted citizenship by the British Mandatory authorities were granted "Palestinian citizenship".^[87] Other examples include the use of the term Palestine Regiment to refer to the Jewish Infantry Brigade Group of the British Army during World War II, and the term "Palestinian Talmud", which is an alternative name of the Jerusalem Talmud, used mainly in academic sources.

 

Following the 1948 establishment of Israel, the use and application of the terms "Palestine" and "Palestinian" by and to Palestinian Jews largely dropped from use. For example, the English-language newspaper The Palestine Post, founded by Jews in 1932, changed its name in 1950 to The Jerusalem Post. The term Arab Jews can include Jews with Palestinian heritage and Israeli citizenship, although some Arab Jews prefer to be called Mizrahi Jews. Non-Jewish Arab citizens of Israel with Palestinian heritage identify themselves as Arabs or Palestinians.^[88] These non-Jewish Arab Israelis thus include those that are Palestinian by heritage but Israeli by citizenship

The Palestinian National Charter, as amended by the PLO's Palestinian National Council in July 1968, defined "Palestinians" as "those Arab nationals who, until 1947, normally resided in Palestine regardless of whether they were evicted from it or stayed there. Anyone born, after that date, of a Palestinian father – whether in Palestine or outside it – is also a Palestinian."^[90] Note that "Arab nationals" is not religious-specific, and it includes not only the Arabic-speaking Muslims of Palestine but also the Arab Christians and other religious communities of Palestine who were at that time Arabic-speakers, such as the Samaritans and Druze. Thus, the Jews of Palestine were/are also included, although limited only to "the [Arabic-speaking] Jews who had normally resided in Palestine until the beginning of the [pre-state] Zionist invasion." The Charter also states that "Palestine with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit

Origins

Main articles: Origin of the Palestinians and Demographic history of Palestine (region)

The origins of Palestinians are complex and diverse. The region was not originally Arab – its Arabization was a consequence of the gradual inclusion of Palestine within the rapidly expanding Islamic Caliphates established by Arabian tribes and their local allies. Like in other "Arabized" Arab nations, the Arab identity of Palestinians, largely based on linguistic and cultural affiliation, is independent of the existence of any actual Arabian origins

Palestine has undergone many demographic and religious upheavals throughout history. During the 2nd millennium BCE, it was inhabited by the Canaanites, Semitic-speaking peoples who practiced the Canaanite religion.^[93] Most Palestinians share a strong genetic link to the ancient Canaanites.^[94][95] Israelites later emerged as an outgrowth of southern Canaanite civilization, with Jews and Israelite Samaritans eventually forming the majority of the population in Palestine during classical antiquity,^{[96][97][98][99][100][101]} However, the Jewish population in Jerusalem and its surroundings in Judea, and Samaritan population in Samaria, never fully recovered as a result of the Jewish-Roman Wars and Samaritan revolts respectively.^[102] In the centuries that followed, the region experienced political and economic unrest, mass conversions to Christianity (and subsequent Christianization of the Roman Empire), and the religious persecution of minorities.^[103][104] The immigration of Christians, as well as the conversion of pagans, Jews and Samaritans, contributed to a Christian majority forming in Late Roman and Byzantine Palestine.^{[105][106][107]}

In the 7th century, the Arab Rashiduns conquered the Levant; they were later succeeded by other Arab Muslim dynasties, including the Umayyads, Abbasids and the Fatimids.^[108] Over the following several centuries, the population of Palestine drastically decreased, from an estimated 1 million during the Roman and Byzantine periods to about 300,000 by the early Ottoman period.^[109][110] Over time, the existing population adopted Arab culture and language and much converted to Islam.^[106] The settlement of Arabs before and after the Muslim conquest is thought to have played a role in accelerating the Islamization process.^{[111][112][113][114]} Some scholars suggest that by the arrival of the Crusaders, Palestine was already overwhelmingly Muslim,^[115][116] while others claim that it was only after the Crusades that the Christians lost their majority, and that the process of mass Islamization took place much later, perhaps during the Mamluk period.^[111][117]

For several centuries during the Ottoman period the population in Palestine declined and fluctuated between 150,000 and 250,000 inhabitants, and it was only in the 19th century that a rapid population growth began to occur.^[118] This growth was aided by the immigration of Egyptians (during the reigns of Muhammad Ali and Ibrahim Pasha) and Algerians (following Abdelkader El Djezaïri's revolt) in the first half of the 19th century, and the subsequent immigration of Algerians, Bosnians, and Circassians during the second half of the century.

 

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[tim_from_pa]

4 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

And I was remise in mentioning one thing --> since part of this thread's title has to do with the role extremists are playing in this situation, I really should have mentioned Iran. One can only imagine how different this whole situation might have been now without Iran's overt meddling behind the scenes over the past few decades. How much of all the terrorist activities and resistance against Israel was because of Iran's activities in the background, pulling the strings and supplying weapons, etc.!?

But now it looks like a page has turned - Iran has come out of the quasi-shadows to openly challenge Israel.  We could truly wake up one morning with the entire world being on the verse of getting sucked into the middle eastern fray via direct Israeli/Iranian conflict.

With things being the way they are, it's hard to imagine that the exceptionally gifted leader, who will bring peace to the middle east, isn't alive even as we converse on this subject . . .

Yes.

[NConly]

2 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Of course Satan, the Father of lies is behind all this. And the big lie he is perpetuating is that there is an ethnic group called `Palestinians.` There is not.

The Romans called the land Palestine. We can see that on maps of when Jesus was on earth. It was Arafat who started this idea that these Arabs who wanted to live there were called Palestinians. 

Israel`s first Prime Minister, Golda Meir, had a Palestinian passport, for it was the land that was called that. Israel changed the name to Israel. Arabs could live under Israelis rule and many do but some caused trouble. Thus they were given the West Bank area. Then later the Arabs complained that they didn`t have any access to the Mediterranean Sea. So, Israel turned its own people off their land and their houses in the Gaza strip and gave it to the Arabs. 

Enter Arafat who was a master liar. And now the people of the world have swallowed that lie and think that there is a small ethnic group that Israel is persecuting. 

I make sure I don`t perpetuate the lie, especially when talking to others. I say, the Arabs of Gaza, and then people tend to ask me why. Great opener to give the truth. 

So, let`s call them what they are - Arabs of Gaza.

Watching a news program a few days ago they said the ones claiming to be Palestinians are Ottoman Turks

[Marilyn C]

There were Jews and Arabs living in Palestine before Israel became a nation. So there have been Palestine Jews and Palestine Arabs since the Romans named that land.

 

[other one]

50 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

There were Jews and Arabs living in Palestine before Israel became a nation. So there have been Palestine Jews and Palestine Arabs since the Romans named that land.

 

It is my understanding that they were all there, but the general law in place was Sharia under the Ottoman Empire.  Jews can live with the Muslims under their legal system, but when Israel declared statehood it was a whole different situation.

[Marathoner]

5 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

The Romans called the land Palestine. We can see that on maps of when Jesus was on earth. It was Arafat who started this idea that these Arabs who wanted to live there were called Palestinians. 

That's incorrect. The term has its origin close to 2,600 years ago in a passage written by the Greek historian Herodotus; he referred to a province of Syria between Phoenicia and Egypt called "Palaistine." The ancient Greeks were the first to use that word. 

When the Lord walked upon this earth, that region was called "Judea" by the Romans. 

[Marathoner]

Hebrews were a Semitic people; so are modern-day Arabs. Hence, both share a common ancestry of the flesh. Arab is nothing more than an ethnic moniker much like "European" is; however, the modern-day occupants of Israel are most assuredly an ethnic mixture. Some are either Arabic or have Arabic ancestors. Some are European... some have Asian ancestry. And so on. That's reality.

You asked how that particular post of mine relates to this topic, @Vine Abider. It should be simple enough to ascertain without my assistance. As a matter of custom, I have remained silent where topics like this one is concerned. Recently, I decided to break that silence and speak up now and then, particularly where error runs rampant. All manner of falsehood and wild conjecture forms the basis of most of the discussion in this thread. 

In your OP, you misrepresented the historical narrative of the so-called "two-state" solution. That in itself is truly no big deal but considering the hot-button nature of the subject matter, my attention was drawn to this topic. Your response to Tristen yesterday that "the Arabs are responsible for 90% of the misbehaving" is atrocious, to say the least. It smacks of racism. Are you aware that many Israelis are, in fact, Arabic? There are Arab Christians as well. 

I'm not special, my friend. If I know those things, anyone else can certainly find out. 

Why am I disgusted? Simple: I made the mistake of assuming that my brothers and sisters would actually care more about the truth than their own opinions. That leads me to three conclusions: 1.) My brothers and sisters truly don't care; or 2.) You're not my brothers and sisters. 

The third conclusion? I have better things to do than appeal to those who don't care. It's like what happened when I found myself standing in a "men's meeting" where deacons and other upstanding Christian men cheered the prospect of "nuking Iran." Insane. 

[Marilyn C]

42 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

That's incorrect. The term has its origin close to 2,600 years ago in a passage written by the Greek historian Herodotus; he referred to a province of Syria between Phoenicia and Egypt called "Palaistine." The ancient Greeks were the first to use that word. 

When the Lord walked upon this earth, that region was called "Judea" by the Romans. 

Yes, I looked that up too and saw that. Then apparently the Romans renamed Judea in the 2nd century CE and called Judea, Syria Palestina incorporating some smaller territories.

[Marathoner]

The Lord and most Galileans spoke Syriac Aramaic; Arabic is also a Syriac language and shares much in common with Aramaic. The notion that "Palestinians" never existed is more than a little ludicrous and disingenuous; the ancient Hebrews were Palestinians. So were the Phoenicians and the people called the Philistines.

Palestine refers to a geographical region. However, this is distorted in the modern vernacular to refer specifically to ethnic Arab people currently confined to the Gaza strip. They're not the only ones confined to Gaza. Much of that region's present chaos is the result of Ottoman, Imperial German, British, and U.S. meddling. It's best understood with the events surrounding the first World War serving as the frame of reference. Crude oil is the source. 

Who is the "great Satan" in Iranian rhetoric? Not Israel. That distinction belongs to the United States. I cannot say that this enmity isn't entirely deserved. U.S. hands are drenched with blood. 

Edited May 2 by Marathoner

[Marathoner]

51 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Yes, I looked that up too and saw that. Then apparently the Romans renamed Judea in the 2nd century CE and called Judea, Syria Palestina incorporating some smaller territories.

It's a matter of semantics, sister. Consider ancient Japanese maps that revealed portions of North America; the Japanese referred to North America by a different name (ancient Japanese explorers reached the west coastline of North America). For that matter, "American" is partially a geographical and geopolitical moniker. Continentally, there are two Americas (North and South); geopolitically and culturally, there four different Americas: North, Meso (modern day Mexico), Central, and South. Some schools of thought blend Mesoamerica and Central America together.  

Semantics. 

Edited May 2 by Marathoner