Trump Conviction/Baggage - think you know what will actually happen?

[Marathoner]

3 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Hmm... sounds pretty unlikely.

That's because it didn't happen. Something like that would be perfect grounds for a successful appeal (not that the verdict isn't going to be appealed anyway). Mr. Trump is infamous for trash-talking the courts; he personally attacks judges who don't allow him to use the courts as a political tool against his perceived enemies, who impose penalties upon him for threatening officers of the court and witnesses, and who otherwise rule against him. Eh, that's been his M.O. for decades. Nothing new. 

[The_Patriot21]

1 hour ago, Marathoner said:

 

Mr. Trump wasn't convicted of bribing a porn star. He was convicted of 34 counts related to falsifying business records. 

Tomato tomato....34 counts of falsifying records concerning paying off a porn star...it's actually pretty petty compared to all the things they have accused him of.

It's akin to spending years accusing a man of murder, only to convict him of jaywalking once no evidence of murder could be found. Reeks of desperation.

[The Barbarian]

5 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

Tomato tomato....34 counts of falsifying records concerning paying off a porn star...it's actually pretty petty compared to all the things they have accused him of.

It's a relatively minor felony, but it's a felony.   Compared to sexual assault (for which a court has found him liable)not much of a crime.   But a crime, nonetheless.   He's up for bigger things, but he's frantically trying to delay those until after the election. 

 

5 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

It's akin to spending years accusing a man of murder, only to convict him of jaywalking once no evidence of murder could be found.

Like O.J. Simpson.   But unlike O.J., much bigger indictments wait for him.   He's pulling out all the stops, trying to avoid his day in court for those crimes.

5 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

Reeks of desperation.

Yep.

[The Barbarian]

12 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

I knew he was going to be convicted...the judge flat out stated before the trial even began that he was going to find trump guilty, even went so far as to say he would ignore the jury if they found him innocent.

Hmm... sounds pretty unlikely.   Can you find a checkable source for that?   

 I would have thought something that unlawful would have been all over Fox News and other right-wing outlets.   But I can find nothing.   What do you have?

10 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

I read it on a Reuters article at one point I believe, might have been fox, back when the trial was just getting ready to get fired up.

I couldn't find anything anything, either.   Neither Reuters nor Fox reported it.   That would have been an easy appeal.    And it would have been everywhere on the news and Trump's minions would have it on Fox and every other right-wing outlet.  

 

[Vine Abider]

13 hours ago, believeinHim said:

Now they can say, 'He's a convicted fellon,' That's all they wanted! It's election interference! 

So we're talking "vast left-wing conspiracy" here?

[The_Patriot21]

3 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Hmm... sounds pretty unlikely.   Can you find a checkable source for that?   

 I would have thought something that unlawful would have been all over Fox News and other right-wing outlets.   But I can find nothing.   What do you have?

I couldn't find anything anything, either.   Neither Reuters nor Fox reported it.   That would have been an easy appeal.    And it would have been everywhere on the news and Trump's minions would have it on Fox and every other right-wing outlet.  

 

Naturally your not finding it...it's not a surprise. With the amount of censorship going on these days, like you mentioned it would be something the right would jump all over it. So it would make sense the news agencies either took it down, or Google buried the results so they couldn't be found.

With that said a lot of trumps followers, are so biased and blinded by their belief in trump that they can't be bothered to do any research and a once off article would easily be overlooked.

I know I'm not dreaming though as I have several liberal friends, who not only hate trump, and who not only agree with the verdict, who saw the article and agreed with the judge and said that the judge was justified in his comments. So I know I'm not the only one who saw it.

In any case, I know what I saw. I know it to be true. But, I cannot prove it right now, and I know how that looks, and that I can't convince you without said article, so I'm not going to, and will now out of this conversation until such time as I find it. Have a good day.

[Neighbor]

On 5/31/2024 at 11:26 AM, Vine Abider said:

Personally,  regardless what good things Trump has done (for instance, favored the Israeli cause and cut off aid that was eventually going to Hams, etc.), there is just too much baggage for me to support Him.  There comes a point where we need to face the reality of who has the best chance, regardless of our thinking about them.  I still think Haley should be nominated in his place, but it's a wild assumption that this would happen in the convention next month - I think she has a far better chance of beating Biden or whichever democrat winds-up being the nominee.

 

Hi,

RFK Jr. will win the US presidency come this November. Both Trump and Biden will become irrelevant, except as memories of a bad time in the USA                              

Republicans running  for office while supporting The Donald this fall,  should he make it to the fall election as their Nominee, will lose a substantial number of elections. Democrats will rule the two houses of Congress. Neither  of the duopoly parties will win the presidency. Instead RFK Jr. will become president.

Andnone of it should matter much,  as compared to our keeping our own focus  on Yeshua.

 

[Marathoner]

11 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

Tomato tomato....34 counts of falsifying records concerning paying off a porn star...it's actually pretty petty compared to all the things they have accused him of.

It's akin to spending years accusing a man of murder, only to convict him of jaywalking once no evidence of murder could be found. Reeks of desperation.

Falsifying business records --- cooking the books --- is a felony. Too bad so sad. 

[Vine Abider]

26 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

Falsifying business records --- cooking the books --- is a felony. Too bad so sad. 

When someone practices skating close to the edge, sometimes they fall off . . .

[Vine Abider]

1 hour ago, Neighbor said:

Hi,

RFK Jr. will win the US presidency come this November. Both Trump and Biden will become irrelevant, except as memories of a bad time in the USA                            

Republicans running  for office while supporting The Donald this fall,  should he make it to the fall election as their Nominee, will lose a substantial number of elections. Democrats will rule the two houses of Congress. Neither  of the duopoly parties will win the presidency. Instead RFK Jr. will become president.

Andnone of it should matter much,  as compared to our keeping our own focus  on Yeshua.

 

That's an interesting prediction - you are speaking from your own self, right?