Core Essentials of Our One Faith (for fellowshipping with others)?

[Marathoner]

Just now, Truswell said:

Good answer, and unless you believe Israel will be heaven on earth, the land matters little compared to eternal life in Glory with the Lord?

Exactly.

[Truswell]

26 minutes ago, Sower said:

Murder vs killing.

Is it a sin to defend the borders of our/other country from terrorists who come to kill?
Or for me to eliminate a threat to my family from home invasion?

I think there is too many different situations to answer your broad statement.
What essential core belief deals with this?
           "Love the Lord, love my neighbor"...    fellowship/discernment...

What about King David's (pre-meditated and deliberate killing) to throw into the mix.

Thanks, Truswell...

Jesus told the disciples, two swords were sufficient for self-defence.

[Marathoner]

11 minutes ago, Truswell said:

How about the sixth commandment, though shall not kill (murder).

Indeed. I never cease to be dismayed by the justifications some use to exonerate murder. We are neither commanded nor taught by the Lord to do as the world does at any time. Love your neighbor as yourself... bless your enemies... never return evil for evil... are all unthinkable to this world. It's too hard, impossible, or only an ideal, some will say. 

That's because they are stained by the world.

[Truswell]

5 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

Exactly.

Personally, the things of earth for me have grown strangely dim. 

[steve morrow]

DONT  GET  IT

 

PSALM 49:20  man that is in honor and understandeth not is like the beasts that perish

PROVERBS 28:5  EVIL  MEN  UNDERSTAND  NOT  JUDGMENT  --- but they that seek  THE  LORD  understand all things---

ISAIAH 27:10  yet the defenced city shall be desolate and the habitation forsaken and left like a wilderness there shall the calf feed and there shall he lie down and consume the branches 

--27:11--  when the boughs thereof are withered they shall be broken off the women come and set them on fire for it is a people of no understanding ---therefore HE that made them will not have mercy on them and HE that formed them will show them no favor---

MATTHEW 13:14  and in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah which saith by hearing you shall hear and shall not understand and seeing you shall see and shall not perceive 

 

2 CORINTHIANS 4:3  BUT IF OUR GOSPEL BE HID IT IS HID TO THEM THAT ARE LOST

 

HEBREWS 6:4  for it is impossible for those who were once enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit 

--6:5-- and have tasted the good word of  GOD  and the powers of the world to come 

--6:6--  if they should fall away to renew them again unto repentance seeing ---they crucify to themselves THE  SON  OF  GOD  and put  HIM  TO  AN  OPEN  SHAME---

 

 

OMITTED???

PSALM 37:7  rest in  THE  LORD  and wait patiently for  HIM  fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass 

 

PSALM 25:9  the meek will  HE  guide in judgment and the meek will he teach  HIS  way

 

MATTHEW 11:29  take my yoke upon you  --AND  LEARN  OF  ME-- for I am meek and lowly in heart and you shall find rest in your souls 

PROVERBS 16:18  pride goeth before destruction and an haughty spirit before a fall

PROVERBS 18:12  before destruction the heart of man is haughty and before honor is humility

 

*******LUKE 11:3  GIVE  US  DAY  BY  DAY  OUR  DAILY  BREAD*******

 

JOHN 6:47  verily verily I say unto you he that believeth on  ME  hath everlasting life 

--6:48--  I  AM  THAT  BREAD  OF  LIFE

--6:49--  your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness and are dead

--6:50--  this is the bread which cometh down from heaven that a man may eat thereof and not die 

 

LUKE 4:4  and  JESUS  answered him saying  ---it is written that man shall not live by bread alone but by every word of  GOD---

 

PROVERBS 14:6  a scorner seeketh wisdom and findeth it not but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth

 

PROVERBS 2:3  yea if thou criest after knowledge and liftest up thy voice for understanding 

--2:4--  if thou seekest her as silver and serchest for as for hidden  treasures 

--2:5--  then shalt thou understand the fear of  THE  LORD  and find the knowledge of  GOD

--2:6-- for  THE  LORD  giveth wisdom out of  HIS  mouth cometh knowledge and understanding

 

PROVERBS 21:16  THE  MAN  THAT  WANDERETH  OUT  OF  THE  WAY  OF  UNDERSTANDING  SHALL  REMAIN  IN  THE  CONGREGATION  OF  THE  DEAD

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST

 

[Truswell]

40 minutes ago, steve morrow said:

DONT  GET  IT

 

PSALM 49:20  man that is in honor and understandeth not is like the beasts that perish

PROVERBS 28:5  EVIL  MEN  UNDERSTAND  NOT  JUDGMENT  --- but they that seek  THE  LORD  understand all things---

ISAIAH 27:10  yet the defenced city shall be desolate and the habitation forsaken and left like a wilderness there shall the calf feed and there shall he lie down and consume the branches 

--27:11--  when the boughs thereof are withered they shall be broken off the women come and set them on fire for it is a people of no understanding ---therefore HE that made them will not have mercy on them and HE that formed them will show them no favor---

MATTHEW 13:14  and in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah which saith by hearing you shall hear and shall not understand and seeing you shall see and shall not perceive 

 

2 CORINTHIANS 4:3  BUT IF OUR GOSPEL BE HID IT IS HID TO THEM THAT ARE LOST

 

HEBREWS 6:4  for it is impossible for those who were once enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit 

--6:5-- and have tasted the good word of  GOD  and the powers of the world to come 

--6:6--  if they should fall away to renew them again unto repentance seeing ---they crucify to themselves THE  SON  OF  GOD  and put  HIM  TO  AN  OPEN  SHAME---

 

 

OMITTED???

PSALM 37:7  rest in  THE  LORD  and wait patiently for  HIM  fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass 

 

PSALM 25:9  the meek will  HE  guide in judgment and the meek will he teach  HIS  way

 

MATTHEW 11:29  take my yoke upon you  --AND  LEARN  OF  ME-- for I am meek and lowly in heart and you shall find rest in your souls 

PROVERBS 16:18  pride goeth before destruction and an haughty spirit before a fall

PROVERBS 18:12  before destruction the heart of man is haughty and before honor is humility

 

*******LUKE 11:3  GIVE  US  DAY  BY  DAY  OUR  DAILY  BREAD*******

 

JOHN 6:47  verily verily I say unto you he that believeth on  ME  hath everlasting life 

--6:48--  I  AM  THAT  BREAD  OF  LIFE

--6:49--  your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness and are dead

--6:50--  this is the bread which cometh down from heaven that a man may eat thereof and not die 

 

LUKE 4:4  and  JESUS  answered him saying  ---it is written that man shall not live by bread alone but by every word of  GOD---

 

PROVERBS 14:6  a scorner seeketh wisdom and findeth it not but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth

 

PROVERBS 2:3  yea if thou criest after knowledge and liftest up thy voice for understanding 

--2:4--  if thou seekest her as silver and serchest for as for hidden  treasures 

--2:5--  then shalt thou understand the fear of  THE  LORD  and find the knowledge of  GOD

--2:6-- for  THE  LORD  giveth wisdom out of  HIS  mouth cometh knowledge and understanding

 

PROVERBS 21:16  THE  MAN  THAT  WANDERETH  OUT  OF  THE  WAY  OF  UNDERSTANDING  SHALL  REMAIN  IN  THE  CONGREGATION  OF  THE  DEAD

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST

 

Thank you. That is very clear. For me, I put my trust in the Lord Jesus Christ, and He directs my path. :)

Edited July 8, 2024 by Truswell

[farouk]

5 hours ago, NConly said:

has nothing to do with Earthly man made boundaries. imo

@NConly Acts 2.42 activities are spiritually discerned.

[NConly]

2 hours ago, Truswell said:

Do you think those who participate in the border violence, which to my mind is murder i.e. (pre-meditated and deliberate killing) will be with the Lord in Glory?

There are two sides the ones trying to come into the U.S. and those  trying to stop them only one side imo would be doing murder.

[farouk]

5 minutes ago, NConly said:

There are two sides the ones trying to come into the U.S. and those  trying to stop them only one side imo would be doing murder.

@NConly I saw a talk given by an ex-CIA lady who had worked with migrants, and if migrants wanting to come to a Western country say they are refugees, then the host government from which they are trying to flee may claim that the officials of Western countries trying to help them are interfering with their internal affairs.

Hence the ex-CIA lady used to advise the would-be emigrants to describe themselves as 'displaced persons', and not 'refugees'.

[Truswell]

19 minutes ago, NConly said:

There are two sides the ones trying to come into the U.S. and those  trying to stop them only one side imo would be doing murder.

Maybe there could be another option? The post above is none violent, but that is the aftermath of war. 

Edited July 8, 2024 by Truswell