Is Jesus omniscient and omnipotent???

[BornAgain490]

1 minute ago, Your closest friendnt said:

@BornAgain490

Many of the things you are saying are not said by John and there quite few of them and some they are a departure from John's teachints. Can you not see it from your self even regarding John 1:14.

 

What things did I state that are not scriptural.  Be specific. 

[Your closest friendnt]

Just now, BornAgain490 said:

Of course John had personal knowledge of all he wrote, because he knew Jesus and Mary and and was a witness throughout the three plus years of Jesus's ministry. I'm not sure what point is though. You seem to be rambling on about something other that my response to the presenters question. 

I am trying to bring your attention to some of the things you are saying John never said or will ever say them the same way because he has wrote something to the contrary and you should be able to see that for your self. Can't you tell on your own? 

 

[Your closest friendnt]

5 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

What things did I state that are not scriptural.  Be specific. 

But some of your comments and you must see it for yourself they deferred. They are additions that depart from what the scripture says. I am being polite from the beginning. This is why I do post what the scripture says so as to ponder on what you said and I gave an example on John 1:14.

Edited August 31, 2024 by Your closest friendnt

[BornAgain490]

Just now, Your closest friendnt said:

I am trying to bring your attention to some of the things you are saying John never said or will ever say them the same way because he has wrote something to the contrary and you should be able to see that for your self. Can't you tell on your own? 

 

You asked me to tell you what omniscient  omnipotent, and Logos meant. So I did.  And I did so with scripture and with sound biblical teachings from sound biblical teachers.  I'm still not getting what your problem is with my response.  Please be clear and concise. 

[BornAgain490]

7 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

But some of your comments and you must see it for yourself they deferred. They are additions that depart from what the scripture says. I am being polite from the beginning. This is why I do post what the scripture says so as to ponder on what you said and I gave an example on John 1:14.

John 1:14 mentions the word Logos in the Greek. You don't agree with the definition of Logos I provided from Vine?  Why not?  What is your definition of Logos, because the Bible doesn't provide definitions, it just says what it says.  So, tell me: what does Logos mean?

[Your closest friendnt]

1 minute ago, BornAgain490 said:

You asked me to tell you what omniscient  omnipotent, and Logos meant. So I did.  And I did so with scripture and with sound biblical teachings from sound biblical teachers.  I'm still not getting what your problem is with my response.  Please be clear and concise. 

You said it from your self in this manner. I  said something from scripture and you can see it from yourself. I did not say what someone else said and I am not talking or want to talk about someone else's teachings and you are not authorized to speak on their behalf but to speak from scripture and to say this is a scripture I want to discuss then it's something else.

I asked you about John 1:14 and not what others say but what you can tell about John's context when he wrote this.

Did John say Jesus was incarnated and give us his definition?  Because the word this word it was used by other Nations in their religion and the have established the definition by their teachings. 

John never used this word not anyother disciples because they never heard Jesus used this word for himself and after his resurrection and his ascension and the Holy Spirit never teach the disciples to say that. Because it's not what happened. 

[BornAgain490]

11 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

You said it from your self in this manner. I  said something from scripture and you can see it from yourself. I did not say what someone else said and I am not talking or want to talk about someone else's teachings and you are not authorized to speak on their behalf but to speak from scripture and to say this is a scripture I want to discuss then it's something else.

I asked you about John 1:14 and not what others say but what you can tell about John's context when he wrote this.

Did John say Jesus was incarnated and give us his definition?  Because the word this word it was used by other Nations in their religion and the have established the definition by their teachings. 

John never used this word not anyother disciples because they never heard Jesus used this word for himself and after his resurrection and his ascension and the Holy Spirit never teach the disciples to say that. Because it's not what happened. 

You do understand that John wrote his gospel in Greek,  right?  In Greek, John wrote the word "Logos", and John used the word Logos 17 times in his gospel,  4 times in the first chapter as a direct title for Jesus. 

 

The word Logos means Word.  As that word, Logos, relates to Jesus, it refers to Jesus's diety.  You don't see that?  Jesus's diety is the same yesterday, today, and forevermore. 

When Jesus took on flesh, His diety did not leave Him, but remained with Him every moment. 

Edited August 31, 2024 by BornAgain490

[Your closest friendnt]

9 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

John 1:14 mentions the word Logos in the Greek. You don't agree with the definition of Logos I provided from Vine?  Why not?  What is your definition of Logos, because the Bible doesn't provide definitions, it just says what it says.  So, tell me: what does Logos mean?

That's better we can look into that from within the scripture for ourselves. We can read what the scripture say can't we. 

There is not only one inside as to any question and why do we need to take the same side to agree. We can understand English and we cloth with some understanding and we can do that for ourselves. Can we? 

What the scripture say about "LOGOS" In Greek and "WORD" in English and in every other language it is the translation of that language. 

When someone speaks what comes out, what we hear is Logos. 

What someone says is Logos. 

Or we may say he spoke and this is what he said, and he will say what I said it is what someone else told me to say and I spoke his words. Like prophecy. 

[BornAgain490]

12 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

You said it from your self in this manner. I  said something from scripture and you can see it from yourself. I did not say what someone else said and I am not talking or want to talk about someone else's teachings and you are not authorized to speak on their behalf but to speak from scripture and to say this is a scripture I want to discuss then it's something else.

I asked you about John 1:14 and not what others say but what you can tell about John's context when he wrote this.

Did John say Jesus was incarnated and give us his definition?  Because the word this word it was used by other Nations in their religion and the have established the definition by their teachings. 

John never used this word not anyother disciples because they never heard Jesus used this word for himself and after his resurrection and his ascension and the Holy Spirit never teach the disciples to say that. Because it's not what happened. 

First of all, I use scripture to support what said, and there's nothing wrong with my using quotes from C. H. Spurgeon definitions from or W. E. Vine's dictionary.  You may not like it, but that's  your problem, not mine. 

[BornAgain490]

2 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

That's better we can look into that from within the scripture for ourselves. We can read what the scripture say can't we. 

There is not only one inside as to any question and why do we need to take the same side to agree. We can understand English and we cloth with some understanding and we can do that for ourselves. Can we? 

What the scripture say about "LOGOS" In Greek and "WORD" in English and in every other language it is the translation of that language. 

When someone speaks what comes out, what we hear is Logos. 

What someone says is Logos. 

Or we may say he spoke and this is what he said, and he will say what I said it is what someone else told me to say and I spoke his words. Like prophecy. 

When the word Logos is used for Jesus, it means more than simply "word", it refers to the full diety of Christ.  That is why "Word" is capitalized in my Bible.