The liberal media won't show you this side of Trump

[Neighbor]

The LBGTQ community I think is past need of such corporate support. They dominate much of the local communities  and the economy around where I live.  Personally I am thinking  the spiritual battle tactic now is one where Christians pray for those trapped in such life styles, share of our Lord when and where we can, and have confidence that God can fix it through the God the Holy Spirit's calling to each individual, one by one by one.

Can't ban anyone into turning about, have to have love for all that are trapped in depravities and debaucheries of many kinds.  Do we continue to protect kids? Yes of course!

[Debp]

33 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Can't ban anyone into turning about, have to have love for all that are trapped in depravities and debaucheries of many kinds.  Do we continue to protect kids? Yes of course!

Yes, I agree we need to love our neighbor, no matter who they are.   I treat everyone the same.

I just hate that the gay agenda, now the transgender stuff, is being pushed down society's throats in order to brainwash people.

Maybe I feel more strongly about this since a good church I attended for a long time was led astray into the gay agenda.   That came about by a new pastor who started to push it in the church.   He later came out as gay, after divorcing his wife...and he married a man.

So I saw the progression of what happened....he led many people astray in that church.   He was originally hired to minister to the Hispanics in our neighborhood.   He and his wife and the kids had been missionaries in Mexico.

Never could understand his sermons...now I know why.

[Neighbor]

Hi,

As I stated; "do we continue to protect kids yes of course."

It is pretty common experience for those that reach up to the high responsibility of pastoring to also face some of the highest challenges, and some do succumb to them too. When that happens it becomes a severe trail for the congregation, do they scatter as sheep without a shepherd or do they banded together  ever stronger in the reliance on the faith of Jesus? Do they pray for the pastor that falls away and his family?

Life is full of harsh tribulations and trials. It is also flled with opportunity to face those tribulations and gain from them. Gain in strength of faith, in trust  and reliance on the faith of Jesus. To know that God is sovereign and works all things together  for good for those that believe on Jesus as Lord God and personal savior.

Secondly  to use the "are you better off today?"  argument in the face of a stock market that is crossing DOW 41,000 and at a time when savings accounts are  earning 3 to 5% pretty much requires a, "Yes I sure am better off today than I was four years ago!" answer, as far as the physical body is concerned.

As to the spiritual  awareness and need, that is a yes as well, for  it is ever more necessary to face the evils that  underlie this unsaved world where Christians sojourn but are not a part. Facing the evils that are so openly  before us all  can be that which also builds up spiritual muscle, as well as profound thankfulness to God that He has turned one's self away from the world's failings and to Him.

Paise God for the challenges that  do work to furtherance of sanctification.

 

[Mama Etna]

I had the misfortune of sitting under a pastor that had a gay agenda.  Needless to say my husband and I left that denomination.  We have never been back to an American Baptist Church since.

I despise the LGBTQ agenda.  They said years ago, while I was still serving in the Navy in the let 80's and early 90's that they would be coming after our kids.  Now they got some people's kids through this transgender nightmare and Drag Queen Storytime.

[debrakay]

13 minutes ago, Mama Etna said:

We have never been back to an American Baptist Church since.

Along with gay rights another issue I am having with different churches are their teaching views on "Replacement Theology". Catholic, Seventh Day Adventist, Methodist, Mormon, Jehovah Witness, Episcopal, Lutheran, some Presbyterian, United Church of Christ are teaching their congregations that Israel is no longer the chosen nation of God.  I don't see how they can wipe out the scripture verses when God said "forever" he would hold to his promises and covenant.  I cannot go along with that ever. If my pastor ever taught that I would have to leave too. 

[Debp]

1 hour ago, Mama Etna said:

I had the misfortune of sitting under a pastor that had a gay agenda.  Needless to say my husband and I left that denomination.  We have never been back to an American Baptist Church since.

I despise the LGBTQ agenda.  They said years ago, while I was still serving in the Navy in the let 80's and early 90's that they would be coming after our kids.  Now they got some people's kids through this transgender nightmare and Drag Queen Storytime.

I had to leave two churches due to crazy, progressive liberal junk.

I only knew what happened to that pastor that later came out as gay because he wrote everyone a really long letter about it!!!    

After marrying the man, he went into education (administration).   Now he's an Episopal priest.

[Neighbor]

What did Jesus have to do? What did Paul have to do? What did Lot have to do?

What did I learn my whole church did,  when I returned to the area to find it gone! 20 acres of church empty, some 3000 fellow Christian's gone, scattered, when the church shepherd overseer pastor was arrested for,( as he put it on a newspaper interview regarding his arrest),"getting his jollies" with ladies on the streets  in the next city. He said he is still in good standing with God for once saved always saved.  

What I learned is that if one is following a man they will be severely disappointed eventually. The "goal"  and the life lesson is to be placing Jesus above all, that and praying for one another in (Agape) love just as each of us loves our Lord. 

 

[Mama Etna]

Progressive ideology and 'sexual liberation' is poison.  It destroys churches from inside out.  @Nieghbor , Your post is a case in point.

The United Methodist denomination is dying because of progressivism.  Christians are leaving it in droves.