There is no "trinity" in John 1:1-14.

[Desopixi Seilynam]

14 hours ago, The 1189 chapters said:

The scriptures say further that the Word was God. The Word of God does not say "The Word was Christ", or "The Word was Jesus", or "The Word was the Son". Again, it says that the Word was God. And there is:

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
John 1:14

Great is the mystery of godliness, God was manifest in the flesh
1 Timothy 3:16

I (wisdom) was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, before ever the earth was
when there were no depths I was brought forth,
before there were any fountains abounding with water.
Proverbs 8:23-24

 

Gods first thought was of dying on behalf of His creation,
the wise plan concerning His Spirit inside of His creation,
the wise plan concerning Christ. Thereby the physical man Christ is there,
because creation stems from the thoughts of God, and the Holy Spirit
is that set apart part of God, set apart at that time to indwell the man Christ Jesus.

 

[steve morrow]

TRIUNE  TRINITY  THIRD PERSON  ???

 

PROVERBS 30:6  add thou not unto  HIS  words lest  HE  reprove thee and thou be found a liar

 

JOHN 14:18  I will not leave you comfortless  --I will--  come to you 

 

ACTS 22:7  and I fell to the ground and heard a voice saying unto me Saul Saul why persecutest thou  ME

--22:8--  and I answered who art thou  LORD  and  HE  said unto me I am  JESUS  of nazareth whom thou persecutest 

--22:9--  and they that were with me saw indeed the light and were afraid but they heard not the voice of  HIM  that spake unto me

--22:10-- and I said what shall I do  LORD  and  THE  LORD  said unto me arise and go into Damascus and there shall it be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do 

--22:11--and when I could not see for the glory of that light being led by the hand of them that were with me I came into Damascus 

--22:12-- and one ananias a devout man according to the law having a good report of all the jews which dwelt there 

--22:13--  came unto me and stood and said unto me brother Saul receive thy sight and the same hour I looked up upon him

--22:14--  and he said  THE  GOD  of our fathers hath chosen thee that thou shouldest  know  HIS  will and see that  JUST  ONE  and shouldest hear the voice of  HIS  mouth 

--22:15--  for thou shalt be  HIS  witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard

--22:16-- and now why tarriest thou arise and be baptized and wash away thy sins calling on the name of  THE  LORD

--22:17--  and it came to pass that when I was come again to Jerusalem even while I prayed in the temple I was in a trance 

 

--22:18--  and saw him saying unto me make haste and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem for they will not receive thy testimony concerning  ME

 

2 CORINTHIANS 1:3  blessed be  GOD  even  THE  FATHER  of our  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST  THE  FATHER  of mercies and the  GOD  of all comfort

--1:4--  who comforteth us in all our tribulation that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of  GOD 

 

ROMANS 15:4  for whatsoever things were written afore time were written for our learning that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope

 

 

JOHN 14:26  but the comforter which is the Holy Spirit whom  THE  FATHER  will send in  MY  name he shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance whatsoever I have said unto you

 

 

******* ISAIAH 51:12  I  EVEN  I  AM  HE  THAT  COMFORTETH  YOU  WHO  ART  THOU  THAT  THOU  SHOULDEST  BE  AFRAID  OF  A  MAN  THAT  SHALL  DIE  AND  OF  THE  SON  OF  MAN  WHICH  SHALL  BE  MADE  AS  GRASS *******

 

 

ISAIAH 40:6  the voice said cry and he said what shall I cry all flesh is as grass and all the goodness thereof is as the flower of the field 

--40:7-- the grass withereth the flower fadeth because the spirit of  THE  LORD  bloweth upon it surely the people is grass 

--40:8--  the grass withereth the flower fadeth but the word of our  GOD  shall stand forever 

 

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST

[farouk]

On 9/1/2024 at 1:33 AM, Tristen said:

There is no question from reading John, chapter 1, that "the Word" Who "was God" "In the beginning", is "Jesus Christ", the "the only Begotten of the Father"; Who was baptized by John.

 

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Actually, John 1 very, very clearly identifies "the Word" as "Jesus Christ", "the only Begotten of the Father"; Who "became flesh and dwelt among us".

 

 

 

Hi @Tristen Biblical evidence of the Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ is indeed overwhelming: Father, Son and Holy Spirit are so clearly attested, especially in the NT.

[Truswell]

He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him.  (Colossians 1:15-16)

For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form. Colossians 2:9  (Colossians 1:15-16)

 

Jesus *said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father. (John 14:9)

Edited September 13, 2024 by Truswell

[farouk]

20 minutes ago, Truswell said:

He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him.  (Colossians 1:15-16)

For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form. Colossians 2:9  (Colossians 1:15-16)

 

Jesus *said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father. (John 14:9)

@Truswell Pivotal verses there, indeed......

[LaMonte]

1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. This is one of the clearest teachings on the incarnation of Christ and His Deity. God was manifested in the flesh refers to the Lord Jesus, and particularly to His Incarnation.

 Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. 14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. This is talking about Jesus.