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The Brotherhood is a Loved existence by any father and The Father. They always establishes equality between their kids. Where one kind of one father is treated unfair like we saw with Joseph and his "coat" then jealousy rules and evil actions manifests. Where God of course uses that to His Glory.

And the same in the 45000 denominations where the wealthy Brothers lives in a "woe".

Luke 6: 24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
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We see this enormous Glory of The Father in Acts. Where all who were more wealthy sold their possessions to create Equality. That is the only place money goes to in the NT concept where the Real Church is your poor Brother who have to receive all "tithing" to establish Equality. Because He is the "Church" in whom the Father resides. And He is more. He is His Kid whom He Love in Equality.

Acts 2:
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
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And of course we see in Revelation now why they were "honored" by all. And why they grew so rapidly. Because God Himself was behind that Brotherhood where His Name was Glorified and all could see One Father in His Love and Existence with His Kids. And He just Loved to sent His "Newborn Babies" to their Older Brothers to accept them into the Brotherhood and uplift them to Equality.

Acts 2: 47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

In them the One Father of them all in Living in Equality was actually visible to everyone of the unbelievers and they had to "honor" them and Their Father. And we see how this was "Emphatically Protected" by God in taking Ananias and Sapphira to Him when they acted against this move from Him. Ananias and Sapphira saw the Great Existence in the Holy Spirit of the Brothers and wanted in. But they also wanted their love for their money and could not have both. Thus they died.
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Now we can understand in Revelation the "Earnest Care" Paul and Titus experienced. Which where their Driving Force from God to spend a huge amount of time and effort to establish Equality between the wealthy Greek and their poor Brothers under the Roman Empire in Israel.

2 Cor. 8:
8 I speak not by commandment, but by occasion of the forwardness of others, and to prove the sincerity of your love.
9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
10 And herein I give my advice: for this is expedient for you, who have begun before, not only to do, but also to be forward a year ago.
11 Now therefore perform the doing of it; that as there was a readiness to will, so there may be a performance also out of that which ye have.
12 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not.
13 For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened:
14 But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality:
15 As it is written, He that had gathered much had nothing over; and he that had gathered little had no lack.
16 But thanks be to God, which put the same earnest care into the heart of Titus for you.
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Thus the religious Christianity is now clearly seen for what it is. A religious establishment by mankind loving Mammon. Where they totally missed the Glorious Existence in the Brotherhood in being Blessed by One Father.
 

PSALM 133.

A Song of degrees of David.

1 Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!*n1
2 It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron’s beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;
3 As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the Lord commanded the blessing, even life for evermore.

And they are given over to slavery under the slave masters robbing the poor of their Equality. To be "blessed by God" in Mammon they worship and love. And all unbelievers in the world "laugh" at the denominations worshiping Mammon. But acting in saying it is their "Father" there.

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6 hours ago, Johanabrahams said:

The Brotherhood is a Loved existence by any father and The Father. They always establishes equality between their kids. Where one kind of one father is treated unfair like we saw with Joseph and his "coat" then jealousy rules and evil actions manifests. Where God of course uses that to His Glory.

And the same in the 45000 denominations where the wealthy Brothers lives in a "woe".

Luke 6: 24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
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We see this enormous Glory of The Father in Acts. Where all who were more wealthy sold their possessions to create Equality. That is the only place money goes to in the NT concept where the Real Church is your poor Brother who have to receive all "tithing" to establish Equality. Because He is the "Church" in whom the Father resides. And He is more. He is His Kid whom He Love in Equality.

Acts 2:
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
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And of course we see in Revelation now why they were "honored" by all. And why they grew so rapidly. Because God Himself was behind that Brotherhood where His Name was Glorified and all could see One Father in His Love and Existence with His Kids. And He just Loved to sent His "Newborn Babies" to their Older Brothers to accept them into the Brotherhood and uplift them to Equality.

Acts 2: 47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

In them the One Father of them all in Living in Equality was actually visible to everyone of the unbelievers and they had to "honor" them and Their Father. And we see how this was "Emphatically Protected" by God in taking Ananias and Sapphira to Him when they acted against this move from Him. Ananias and Sapphira saw the Great Existence in the Holy Spirit of the Brothers and wanted in. But they also wanted their love for their money and could not have both. Thus they died.
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Now we can understand in Revelation the "Earnest Care" Paul and Titus experienced. Which where their Driving Force from God to spend a huge amount of time and effort to establish Equality between the wealthy Greek and their poor Brothers under the Roman Empire in Israel.

2 Cor. 8:
8 I speak not by commandment, but by occasion of the forwardness of others, and to prove the sincerity of your love.
9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
10 And herein I give my advice: for this is expedient for you, who have begun before, not only to do, but also to be forward a year ago.
11 Now therefore perform the doing of it; that as there was a readiness to will, so there may be a performance also out of that which ye have.
12 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not.
13 For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened:
14 But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality:
15 As it is written, He that had gathered much had nothing over; and he that had gathered little had no lack.
16 But thanks be to God, which put the same earnest care into the heart of Titus for you.
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Thus the religious Christianity is now clearly seen for what it is. A religious establishment by mankind loving Mammon. Where they totally missed the Glorious Existence in the Brotherhood in being Blessed by One Father.
 

PSALM 133.

A Song of degrees of David.

1 Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!*n1
2 It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron’s beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;
3 As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the Lord commanded the blessing, even life for evermore.

And they are given over to slavery under the slave masters robbing the poor of their Equality. To be "blessed by God" in Mammon they worship and love. And all unbelievers in the world "laugh" at the denominations worshiping Mammon. But acting in saying it is their "Father" there.

There are varied opinions on this matter. So to say, not a criticism of your posting, but just another angle.

The first one is that man is a bondservant to His Maker and has no rights. "Bond-servant" is the lowest rank of slavery and this is the word Paul uses to describe himself.

This leads to the second point. "Equality" is not found in the Bible. To one is given five Talents, to another two, to another one. These talents were given "each according his several ability", which means that their natural ability was different.

Then, if the Ten Commandments show the mind of God, "Thou shalt not steal" defines the sanctity of possession. What is mine is not yours.

Then, to prevent the Church from becoming a social institute, the Holy Spirit says (i) that each man must earn his OWN bread, and (ii) if he dos not, he should not get food.

Then, it is evident that the "socialism" of Acts did not work. It was never repeated in any other Church and was never required by God.

What is taught is that you are a steward of what God has given you, and you must manage your resources to the benefit of men IN NEED. This goes back to the Covenant made with Abraham. We are, by our origin in Christ, SEED of Abraham, and IN THIS SEED (Christ) should all the families of earth be blessed (Gen.22:18, Gal.3:16, 29). Under the Law of Moses a wealthy man was not to allow an Israelite to suffer in times of trial. Israel were to be prepared to lend to the Nations. In the New Testament we are to give to the work of the Lord, and we are to give to those in financial trouble. But secrecy is asked. The one hand should not know what the other is doing. Also, it is not a matter of men deciding. You have one Lord. He it is who will tell you, via the Spirit in your spirit, when, what and how to give (Rom.8:11-14). Let no other tell you what, or how much to give.

Finally, the Law of Moses regulated giving. But for the New Man, the Law is nailed to the cross (Eph.2:15). Any attempt to obtain justification by Law will end badly. Forget tithing. Be ready to give when the situation arises. One day the Lord will ask less than tenth. Another day he will ask all you have. You usually know when its right. It's when it hurts. We all love money, but remember when you give according to the Spirit, you LEND to the Lord. His interest rate is very high. You might have to wait for your return, but it is the best investment you can make.

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Today is a day of dedication, devotion and  prayer and for me as I thank God that three precious Hebrew women have been freed from the hand of Satan.

 ABRAHAM     /    ABRAM
 אַבְרָם    -     'abrâm    -    ab-rawm'
 
  means   =      high father  or  exalted  father    - -   ; Abram,  can mean   =   "    lifted  up  father   "  

 
אָב   -   'âb    -  awb     "   AB   "   means    =    Father   
and  
רוּם  -     râm       "   RAM  /   ROM  /    RUM   "    means   =     to extol,  lifted up,   set up high

and 

JACOB   - means    =        HAND  OF  THE  FATHER   -   "    OR  FATHER  WHO  POSSESSES   "   or  receives.

much of the religious world would like others to believe that the word  "  Jacob  "  means  as  an usurper or supplanter
 
or many religious people castigate  "  Jacob  "  as someone whom is to overthrow or even  -  steal  and  deprive  and  rob  another

but these meanings have absolutely nothing to do with the Hebrew Language nor Hebrew Scriptures and these false meanings are simply the ideas and feelings of the religious world attempting to bypass the meaning of Hebrew words in the Scripture and simply castigate an impression upon the character of Jacob and replace the meaning with their own personal feelings 

truly

personal feelings that are truly nothing more than the popular view of Jacob and his role and family situation and what the mainstream religious world feels and thinks about Jacob and his character and how he conducted his family life.

The word   “  JACOB  “   is  comprised of three Hebrew words and    =  JACOB  has  a  double  or  triple  meaning  

JACOB     -  means      =        FATHER  WHO  POSSESSES   

or    MORE  ACCURATELY   =   JACOB     -  means      =        
     -    FATHER   whom  is    =   POSSESSING  THE  END  OR  TAKING  THE     “  RESULT   “ 

  OR   “    FATHER  TAKING  REWARD  “    or  the  achievement or the  accomplishment  or  reason 

JACOB 
 
יָד   -   yâd     -   yawd    =    hand,  possessing -  receiving  -  taking

עֵקֶב   -  ‛êqeb   -  ay'-keb   =       the last of anything   -     also the result, that is,    compensation;  by the end result  for, if, reward     -      because or reason by resulting   -  the  HEEL  or  ENDING  RESULT

אָב   -   'âb    -  awb     "   AB   "   means    =    Father   

This is what the names of Abraham and Jacob mean and   “  ISAAC  “  was  the  name  that  means  to  laugh, or make fun or to make mockery
יִצְחָק  -     yitschâq      -  yits-khawk'     =  meaning   -    Laughter  - to  laugh

Gen 18:12  Therefore Sarah  laughed  within herself……………  :13  And the LORD said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh.. :14  Is any thing too hard for the LORD?

Thus  God  commanded  that  Sarah’s  son  be  called  Isaac 

There are many things in scriptures that have misunderstood for one example we can look to   -  -   Exo  21:


  The catholic   translation    Exo 21:20  -  21  

Exo  21:20    He that striketh his bondman, or bondwoman, with a rod, and they die under his hands, shall be guilty of the crime. 
:21  But if the party remain alive a day or two, he shall not be subject to the punishment, because it is his money. 

The protestant translation  - K.J.V translates  Exo 21:20  -  21  - as

Exo 21:20  And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. 
 :21  Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money. 

The Translators indeed make it sound like that the MANUSCRIPTS are actually saying that someone is allowed to beat their slave to death just so long as it takes longer than a day for the death

But when we look at the Hebrew manuscripts, this is not at all the message - here is exactly word for word the exact message in the manuscript.

Exo 21:20 
      וכי FOR    -    יכה STRIKING     -     אישׁ A MAN     -     את HIMSELF     -     עבדו A SERVANT     -     או OR     -     את HIMSELF     -     אמתו A MAID     -     בשׁבט WITH A ROD     -     ומת AND DIES     -     תחת UNDER     -     ידו HIS HAND     -     נקם AVENGE     -     ינקם׃ THIS VENGANCE

:21 
  אך BUT     -     אם IF     -     יום A DAY     -     או OR     -     יומים TWO DAYS     -     יעמד HE RISE     -     לא NOT - יקם AVENGE / ESTABLISH     -     כי THAT     -     כספו HIS MONEY     -     הוא׃ IS  HIS

In fact - the manuscripts are saying that if a worker is hurt because he is being abused by his boss and become injured for just a brief day or two - and is unable to work, the boss is obligated and Commanded to Pay The Worker The Wages For The Days He Is Unable To Work. This is exactly what the manuscripts are saying - word for word…….

Exo 21:20 FOR STRIKING A MAN HIMSELF A SERVANT OR HIMSELF A MAID WITH A ROD AND DIES UNDER HIS HAND AVENGE THIS VENGANCE

:21 BUT IF A DAY OR TWO DAYS HE RISE NOT, AVENGE / ESTABLISH THAT HIS MONEY IS HIS

The previous verses above are saying the exact message - confirming the same exact EXAMPLE referring to two men who are fighting among one another and one of the men becomes injured.

Exo 21:18 And if men strive together, and one smite another with a stone, or with his fist, and he die not, but keepeth his bed:   :19 If he rise again, and walk abroad upon his staff, then shall he that smote him - ………. ……… HE SHALL PAY FOR THE LOSS OF HIS TIME, AND SHALL CAUSE HIM TO BE THOROUGHLY HEALED.

And then the very next :21     -  is referring to A BOSS injuring his worker - AGAIN explaining - IF A DAY OR TWO DAYS HE RISE NOT, AVENGE / ESTABLISH THAT HIS MONEY IS HIS

To establish that the workers money and wages are paid to him - the worker - who was unable to work BECAUSE HIS BOSS INJURED HIM.   
The translation is making it seem to say that SOMEONE is allowed to beat their worker to death - AND IT IS ALL OK - JUST AS LONG AS THE WORKER DIES A SLOW PAINFUL DEATH OVER THE COURSE OF A DURATION OF A FEW DAYS –
if it takes TWO DAYS FOR THE WORKER TO SLOWLY DIE - THEN THE BOSS HAS NO LIABILITY - nor responsibility for killing and murdering his worker.

I hope today on this special day we can come to understand the truth and to trust in God and believe his word.

 


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5 hours ago, AdHoc said:

There are varied opinions on this matter. So to say, not a criticism of your posting, but just another angle.

Yep.  Man has opinions.  Then there is God's Revelation which is the Truth in the Powerful Life it creates.

5 hours ago, AdHoc said:

The first one is that man is a bondservant to His Maker and has no rights. "Bond-servant" is the lowest rank of slavery and this is the word Paul uses to describe himself.

Yep.  That is how it was in the OT and where we came from.  And that is where we start of in the NT too when we get into a Relationship with the Almighty God.  And then we grow up in Revelation.  And we grow out of that "servant" into "Abba Father/Daddy" Relationship.  To the Joy of our Dad and our own of course too.

Gal. 4: 1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
  2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.
  3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
  4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
  5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
  6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
  7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

5 hours ago, AdHoc said:

This leads to the second point. "Equality" is not found in the Bible.

It is.  And I gave the Scripture on it also.  So let me give it again.   Equality specially when it comes to money and earthly possessions.  All children of any father and The Father always lives in equality of money.  Where it governs in Love all the possessions issues in the NT.   This is the only place you can give your money now.  For Equality of the Brotherhood.  It was in the first community of Children of God in Acts and Paul spend a huge amount of time on it.  If you had brothers in your human family you would know how paramount this was in your existence in your family.  If you have kids then you will know how paramount it is in your family you create with your kids. 

2 Cor. 8: 14 But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality:
  15 As it is written, He that had gathered much had nothing over; and he that had gathered little had no lack.

5 hours ago, AdHoc said:

To one is given five Talents, to another two, to another one. These talents were given "each according his several ability", which means that their natural ability was different.

Sure.  All kids have different abilities in your house.  And you and your brothers in your father's house had different abilities.  This has nothing to do with the money your father gave you and you give your kids.  So the Same in God's house.  All Brothers have the same money, meaning the same houses and clothes and food.  But they all have different Gifts in Abilities.  Some are pastors and other evangelists etc.

5 hours ago, AdHoc said:

Then, it is evident that the "socialism" of Acts did not work. It was never repeated in any other Church and was never required by God.

In fact it is the opposite.  As Scripture I gave proved.

 

Acts 2: 47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Everyone gave them "favour" for living like that.  And God added to them all who "should be saved".   And Paul also spend a lot of time to establish this over national borders.   The only reason why it was stopped was because of the "greed of mankind".  And we are suffering terrible consequences as result in all the loveless greed that exists today in Christianity.  With 45 000 different denominations in strife.   Meaning evil rule them totally.  And of course you can look at your own life and see the greed there too in not having Revelation and the Love for your Brothers to see this is the Truth and not a lie.  The Children of God did not live a lie in Acts as you try to say with your "mere opinions" you have on their "socialism".  Where you gave it a bad connotation.  Because it was never "socialism" which is an enforced situation by the government.  It was the Love of the Father in the Holy Spirit which took them into that Perfect Brotherhood situation. 

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3 hours ago, Johanabrahams said:

Sure.  All kids have different abilities in your house.  And you and your brothers in your father's house had different abilities.  This has nothing to do with the money your father gave you and you give your kids.  So the Same in God's house.  All Brothers have the same money, meaning the same houses and clothes and food.  But they all have different Gifts in Abilities.  Some are pastors and other evangelists etc.

Thank you for your answer.

Your logic fails me. You say that the Father gives money equally. But 2nd Corinthians is a call for the "have's" to donate because there were "have nots". Was the Father not the one who had then created the inequality? Should not the call of 2nd Corinthians 8 be directed at the loving Father Who has unlimited resources? Is it not true that the call of this Chapter is because of IN-equality of children of the same Father?

May the reader note too how selective you were in my posting.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. (1 Cor.13:3).


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7 hours ago, AdHoc said:

Thank you for your answer.

Sure.  We are in Dad's Family and Brothers and building Relationships in the Holy Spirit.

7 hours ago, AdHoc said:

Your logic fails me.

Adam exists in "logic".  We exists in the Holy Spirit of Love.

7 hours ago, AdHoc said:

You say that the Father gives money equally.

Any father and The Father gives money equally. 

7 hours ago, AdHoc said:

But 2nd Corinthians is a call for the "have's" to donate because there were "have nots".

In the Brotherhood all Lives in Equality.  There are not any who "have' and others who "have not".   That is simply the Power of the Holy Spirit Lived out in its Consequences of entering into this Live of God as One Father.

7 hours ago, AdHoc said:

Was the Father not the one who had then created the inequality?

Nope.  Adam/Lucifer did that.   And in the Holy Spirit all are now saved from they cold intellectualism of Adam in his selfish existence for himself. 

7 hours ago, AdHoc said:

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. (1 Cor.13:3).

Yep.  It is not about giving.  But the Love behind the Giving.  Where the Love of the Living God towards one another as Brothers manifests in Equality.  In acting. 

James 2: 13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
  14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
  15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
  16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
  17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
  18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

That was what struck all the unbelievers in Acts.   When they asked why this particular "community" of Children of God lives in Equality where they saw those with "big houses" suddenly have smaller ones and those with small houses suddenly have bigger ones the answer was simply.  We have One Father.  And they replied back.  Surely, we can see that.  And the One Father received the Glory.  And He added Himself to His Family where the Brothers lived in Equality in the Brotherhood.

 

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21 hours ago, Johanabrahams said:

This has nothing to do with the money your father gave you and you give your kids.  So the Same in God's house.  All Brothers have the same money, meaning the same houses and clothes and food.  But they all have different Gifts in Abilities.  Some are pastors and other evangelists etc.

17 hours ago, AdHoc said:

You say that the Father gives money equally. But 2nd Corinthians is a call for the "have's" to donate because there were "have nots". Was the Father not the one who had then created the inequality? Should not the call of 2nd Corinthians 8 be directed at the loving Father Who has unlimited resources? Is it not true that the call of this Chapter is because of IN-equality of children of the same Father?

10 hours ago, Johanabrahams said:

Nope.  Adam/Lucifer did that.   And in the Holy Spirit all are now saved from they cold intellectualism of Adam in his selfish existence for himself. 

You first say that the Father gives THE SAME to the brothers of His House. I then point out that in this House there was INEQUALITY. Thus the call for donations. If the FATHER is giving the same money and there is NO SAME MONEY, the Father is responsible. But now you say Adam/Lucifer did it and  that the members of the House are saved IN THE HOLY SPIRIT. But the call in 2nd Corinthians is not to the Holy Spirit, but brothers of the House.

But is the truth not that there was famine in Jerusalem because the majority had broken the Law of Moses, especially in the matter of the trial of Jesus. Is this not a chastisement on Judah that had an effect on the Church in Jerusalem? Is not the Greek word rendered "equality" also rendered "FAIRNESS". Is not the verse we discuss a call for help because brothers were going through a period of leanness because of OTHERS. You dismiss "socialism" but is not communism "socialism with no ownership of land". The Christians in Jerusalem were the ones who sold their land and were then caught in the middle of a conflict between God and Judah which is regulated by COVENANT. Here are the terms;

15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field. 17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store. 18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out. 20 The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me. (Deut.28:15–20).

The Famine in Jerusalem WAS OF GOD. The lack of the Christians was because they got caught in the crossfire between Jehovah and Judah. So God calls upon the wealthy Corinthians. He first commends the poor Macedonian Christians and asks for "FAIRNESS". The word is used in Colossians 4:1 and means "pay your slaves what is FAIR"!


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22 hours ago, AdHoc said:

You first say that the Father gives THE SAME to the brothers of His House. I then point out that in this House there was INEQUALITY. Thus the call for donations. If the FATHER is giving the same money and there is NO SAME MONEY, the Father is responsible.

All in Acts entered Relationship with God as their Father.  That is why the wealthy Brothers were spoken to by their Father to whom they first gave their possessions to redistribute for Equality to be reached.  It is the same in your house where you are the father of your kids.  They live in equality.   That is the Heart of any father and The Father which they heard correctly in Acts and acted accordingly in the Holy Spirit to establish what they felt from the Spirit of the Heart of The Father. 

22 hours ago, AdHoc said:

But now you say Adam/Lucifer did it

The previous lack of equality was because they existed as Adam/Lucifer in selfishness without the Holy Spirit and the Love of it.  Thus their joy was in Mammon/money.   And they didn't share because they were not Brothers of One Father.

22 hours ago, AdHoc said:

But is the truth not that there was famine in Jerusalem because the majority had broken the Law of Moses, especially in the matter of the trial of Jesus.

The only reason given is Equality.  Nothing else.

"  14 But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality:
  15 As it is written, He that had gathered much had nothing over; and he that had gathered little had no lack."

22 hours ago, AdHoc said:

Is not the Greek word rendered "equality" also rendered "FAIRNESS".

Brothers do not live in "fairness" but Equality.

22 hours ago, AdHoc said:

You dismiss "socialism" but is not communism "socialism with no ownership of land".

It is Love of a Father in the Holy Spirit given to His Kids who became Brothers.   Where everything belongs to Him.  They accept it and redistribute.   Which was the Spirit of the Father guiding them to do it.  It is not possible for humans to do it.

"44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
  45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

 

22 hours ago, AdHoc said:

The word is used in Colossians 4:1 and means "pay your slaves what is FAIR"!

Sure.  But when you enter with the Brothers in Brotherhood the Love in Equality is Greater than "money paid to slaves".   It is about entering that "Oil" and the Power of it.  The Love of The Father between Him and His Family Members who are Brothers in Love of the Same Spirit and the Power it has to Transform to Family Life.

"1 Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!*n1
  2 It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron’s beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;
  3 As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the Lord commanded the blessing, even life for evermore."

 


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49 minutes ago, Johanabrahams said:

All in Acts entered Relationship with God as their Father.  That is why the wealthy Brothers were spoken to by their Father to whom they first gave their possessions to redistribute for Equality to be reached.  It is the same in your house where you are the father of your kids.  They live in equality.   That is the Heart of any father and The Father which they heard correctly in Acts and acted accordingly in the Holy Spirit to establish what they felt from the Spirit of the Heart of The Father. 

The previous lack of equality was because they existed as Adam/Lucifer in selfishness without the Holy Spirit and the Love of it.  Thus their joy was in Mammon/money.   And they didn't share because they were not Brothers of One Father.

The only reason given is Equality.  Nothing else.

"  14 But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality:
  15 As it is written, He that had gathered much had nothing over; and he that had gathered little had no lack."

Brothers do not live in "fairness" but Equality.

It is Love of a Father in the Holy Spirit given to His Kids who became Brothers.   Where everything belongs to Him.  They accept it and redistribute.   Which was the Spirit of the Father guiding them to do it.  It is not possible for humans to do it.

"44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
  45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

 

Sure.  But when you enter with the Brothers in Brotherhood the Love in Equality is Greater than "money paid to slaves".   It is about entering that "Oil" and the Power of it.  The Love of The Father between Him and His Family Members who are Brothers in Love of the Same Spirit and the Power it has to Transform to Family Life.

"1 Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!*n1
  2 It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron’s beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;
  3 As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the Lord commanded the blessing, even life for evermore."

 

Okay. Thanks for your reply and the exchange of ideas. I respect your view.

Go well bro.

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