What the 7th seal ISN'T

[Revelation Man]

On 1/29/2025 at 3:16 PM, Keras said:

This is just pretentious nonsense. An avoidance of the truths that are seen in Revelation 8:1

The 7 Trumpets do not 'contain all of Gods wrath'. a foolish statement, refuted by the Sixth Seal and His wrath against the ungodlym of the 7 Bowls. 

Again, its just me understanding by asking God and you following other men's ideas OR your own wrong understandings, which came from other men even if you do not know it.

The Wax Seals BY THEIR VERY NATURE, SEAL UP things, its obvious Seals 1-5 are the Anti-Christ, but your problem is you can't see its Jesus foretelling what is soon to come when the 7th Seal is taken off THE SCROLL IS FINALLY OPENED UP. A "Sealed Scroll", and you cant get the overall picture here, why is that? Because you already know it all, even though you don't. That very answer to my prayer is why I finally got the answers. When I asked why the church was so confused and all over the place on end time understandings I got "Ron, you guys already know it all" So, I reexamined everything and simply asked God to show me, as I did with the Gospels. You are still in my old position, "You think you know it all, when you really know nothing". 

Its quite simple tbh. The 7 Seals have God's Wrath Sealed up and Jesus/God starts unsealing them just like a King taking off 3 Wax Signet Ring Seals, thus only when ALL SEVEN are off can the message be read, or the Decree of God's Wrath be spoken or brought forth. That is why seal #7 is over in Rev. 8, that is why in Rev. 7 we see Israel fleeing Judea via God saying HOLD UP MY WRATH until Israel (144,000 really 5 million) have been SEALED or SAVED and PROTECTED, then, THEN...........God's Wrath falls in Rev. 8 via an Asteroid Impact. 7 is Divine Completion, not 21, the 7 Trumps are God's COMPLETE WRATH, whether you understand this or not is not relevant to God's plans.

Seals 1-5, as Jesus opens them he foretells of the Anti-Christs coming 42 month reign of terror. Remember God Himself wrote this, that is why it is so hard to understand, and that was on purpose. You can't even get the simple parts, Seals BIND UP THINGS, your whole concept is skewed from the get go. Then in Seal #6 we are foretold of God's coming Wrath, both the 42 months of Wrath and the Anti-Christs reign parallel, because he can not go forth or chooses not to go forth until God's Wrath falls, maybe its because Satan knows the 1/3 set ablaze is the New World, which takes out the USA, so one can say God makes his path straight or allows him to come to power, but ONLY in the E.U. and he only conquers the Mediterranean Sea Region, that WHOLE EARTH via that region, just like Greece & Rome etc.

The 6th Seal prophesy comes to pass in full via the Fourth Trump. Then the Final Three Trumps are the THREE WOES if you would listen to Rev 8:13 that would register. Thus Woes 1 and 2 are seen in Rev. 9 and Woe #3 has to be the 7th Trump which brings us the 7 Vials, thus the 7 Vials emit from the 7th Trump and ARE the Third Woe !! Thus all 7 Trumps contain ALL of God's Wrath, you understanding this or not is not going to change the facts brother. Nothing is refuted except your bad understanding sir.

Edited January 31 by Revelation Man

[Keras]

6 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Thus all 7 Trump contain ALL OF God's Wrath,

Revelation 15:1 refutes you. 

To shuffle the Seals, Trumpets and Bowls, is serious error. It is clear that the 6th Seal is the next Prophesies event we can expect. Proved by how Jesus stopped His quote of Isaiah 61:1-2, before the day of vengeance...

[Revelation Man]

8 hours ago, Keras said:

Revelation 15:1 refutes you. 

To shuffle the Seals, Trumpets and Bowls, is serious error. It is clear that the 6th Seal is the next Prophesies event we can expect. Proved by how Jesus stopped His quote of Isaiah 61:1-2, before the day of vengeance...

No it doesn't, that is just you again not understanding God's word. Via the 7 Vials God Wrath is FILLED UP.

Revelation 15:1 ¶ And 2532 I saw 1492 z5627 another 243 signe 4592 in 1722 heauen 3772 great 3173 and 2532 marueilous, 2298 seuen 2033 Angels 32 hauing 2192 z5723 the x3588 seuen 2033 last 2078 plagues, 4127 for 3754 in 1722 them 846 is filled vp 5055 z5681 the x3588 wrath 2372 of God. 2316

The SEVEN LAST PLAGUES are come and IN THEM  are God's Wrath FILLED UP, it does not say n the 7 contains all pf God's Wrath, it SPECIFICALLY SAYS.........IN THEM...........is God's Wrath FILLED UP. Can you add sir, I have a jar full of ping pong balls, with a little room left, I place 7 more in the jar in IN THEM (those 7 BALLS !!!!) is the Jar FILLED UP............Get it? You are clueless on  Prophesy brother, its just not your bag. 

You are all over the place, stop trying to force it man. 

[Michael37]

38 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

No it doesn't, that is just you again not understanding God's word. Via the 7 Vials God Wrath is FILLED UP.

Revelation 15:1 ¶ And 2532 I saw 1492 z5627 another 243 signe 4592 in 1722 heauen 3772 great 3173 and 2532 marueilous, 2298 seuen 2033 Angels 32 hauing 2192 z5723 the x3588 seuen 2033 last 2078 plagues, 4127 for 3754 in 1722 them 846 is filled vp 5055 z5681 the x3588 wrath 2372 of God. 2316

The SEVEN LAST PLAGUES are come and IN THEM  are God's Wrath FILLED UP, it does not say n the 7 contains all pf God's Wrath, it SPECIFICALLY SAYS.........IN THEM...........is God's Wrath FILLED UP. Can you add sir, I have a jar full of ping pong balls, with a little room left, I place 7 more in the jar in IN THEM (those 7 BALLS !!!!) is the Jar FILLED UP............Get it? You are clueless on  Prophesy brother, its just not your bag. 

You are all over the place, stop trying to force it man. 

@Revelation Man If this post gets reported it will be deleted, and a warning given. Come on. You know the drill here.

[Keras]

1 hour ago, Michael37 said:

@Revelation Man If this post gets reported it will be deleted, and a warning given. Come on. You know the drill here.

Thank you.

I don't report rudeness and scriptural error, I just feel sorry for their confusion and unpreparedness for what must happen. 

The Seventh Seal is a time gap, nothing more, nothing less. 

The effects of the Seals, as described takes place at the time when Jesus removes each of them. He has removed Seals 1 to 5, when He Ascended to heaven, Rev 5 This is proved by how all the souls of the Christian martyrs from Stephen and still ongoing. 

The Sixth Seal sudden and shocking worldwide devastation, is the next Prophesied event. Wait for the Day! Zephaniah 3:8

[Revelation Man]

19 hours ago, Michael37 said:

@Revelation Man If this post gets reported it will be deleted, and a warning given. Come on. You know the drill here.

You enlighten me sir on the supposed issue, the whole can you add is meant to show he never thought of the verse as being an ADITTIONAL WRATH, and not all of God's wrath, of course he can add, so its meant to suggest, of course, that you are supposed to add this final wrath in order to fill up God's full wrath.

Other than that I have no clue what you could be talking about here sir. TBH, I do not understand how that did not register as a rhetorical point. I left this place for 2 years because people always reported and got their feelings hurt about trivial trivialities, we are big boys, Peter and Andrew were sons of thunder. I can't believe you could not see that was a rhetorical point which was meant to point out he WAS NOT ADDING and not me sayin you are too dumb to add (big difference). The point was he's not adding and only seeing what he wanted to see, when its clearing showing the Vials finish up God's wrath, thus adding is a requirement via those verses. 

[Revelation Man]

17 hours ago, Keras said:

Thank you.

I don't report rudeness and scriptural error, I just feel sorry for their confusion and unpreparedness for what must happen. 

No one was rude to you ad you should apologize for suggesting I was. I rarely  chat with you because you are always in error on prophesy, but then as soon as I chime in like on those site you are quick to point out why someone else is wrong, when its you sir who are in error on prophesy. I will be proven correct and in Heaven when we look at each other you will know instantly that what I stated in all cases was of God whilst you were just guessing, because we can not be hat we are not called to be.  I see why this site  has lost so many people now. No one s here, its dead, I am not a conformist, and neither was Jesus. I will just put you on ignore like I have on most other sites, since you choose to call rude.