What must I do to go to hell?

[st. Worm]

bill, I am not saying that we should intentionally see how many commandments we can break but if we are honest with ourselves we must surely say we have kept none of them. Jesus explains that the true test of the Law is not mere surface keeping of the Law but absolute perfection. Because we cannot keep the Law perfectly we need Christ, the only one who did.

There is a third use of the law as guidance but I fear you see the Law as a way to please God. I also fear you have a very shallow view of the law if you think you can keep it at even just one point. I think your advising others that they can somehow please God through the law and good works is more than just a little irresponsible.

[billcompugeek]

If you are not against the Lord then you are with him. Jesus told his disciples to pray to be delivered from temptation.

Why? Because nobody in themselves has the power to deliver themselves from these temptations. Only the Lord can

forgive sins and educate. Only the Lord can lead you away from sin and away from constantly breaking the commandments.

No one should teach dismissal of the commandments - it is extremely disturbing and a dangerous false teaching. David meditated on God's law day and night. This law is primarily the tem commandments and the greatest commandments to love God and the neighbor.

[st. Worm]

bill, below is a link to a brief overview of how the Christian should view the law. Certainly I am not dismissing the commandments but the Law is of no value to you when you stand before God.

http://www.presenttruthmag.com/archive/VII/7-3.htm

[billcompugeek]

It is no secret that churches that teach faith seperate from charity dismiss the ten commandments and also churches that teach predestination dismiss the ten commandments. You have not heard the Words of Christ or God if you think you can not practice following the ten commandments. Every society on the earth also depends on these commandments to keep peace and civil law. Without the practice of following the ten commandments, there is no church worshipping God but only an appearance of a church that is empty inside. Your comments smack of predestination and the "uselessness" of cooperating with God and doing what he says.

[st. Worm]

bill, about the only advice I can give you at this point is this. If you are in a church that rejects the doctrine of the Trinity and that teaches that the Law is the pathway to God, I would strongly urge you to leave as fast as you can. You have an interesting religion, but its not Christianity.

[billcompugeek]

St. Worm I can tell you this that you have rejected the encapsulation of the law or the commandments of the Lord. Your doctrine is called false doctrine and you are teaching falsely. Your doctrine posted in other discussions is why Christians are seen as polytheists preaching one God and thinking three individual Gods. God is one in purpose, in mind and in body. He expects you to follow the ten commandments and to teach others to do the same thing. You have failed in your mission and gone astray.