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There Won't Be A Millennium On This Earth, Jesus Returns In Fire And Final Judgement (The End)


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Posted
1 hour ago, Locust said:

Was some part of your post supposed to be refuting the kingdom here on earth ?

Isaiah Chapters 11 & 65 Is The Very Same Place, The Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven And Earth, Don't Be Deceived By Claims This Represents A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth


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On 1/30/2025 at 11:02 AM, truth7t7 said:

you claim a 1,000 year millennial kingdom is seen in the Old Testament then post the scripture to support your claim

Ezekiel 35 == Judgement on Esau
Ezekiel 36 == Judgement on the nations and promise of the reign
Ezekiel 37 == The resurrections and the reign of the Messiah
Ezekiel 38 and 39 == Gog and Magog

Which is following the same order given in Revelation.

Revelation 19:20-21 == Judgement on the nations
Revelation 20:4-5 == the resurrections
Revelation 20:6-7 == the 1000 year reign
Revelation 20:7-9 == Gog and Magog

"...this is the first resurrection, blessed and holy is he
that has part in the first resurrection"
Revelation 20:5-6

You claim that all of Revelation 20:1-7 is figurative.
Was the death and resurrection of Christ figurative?
If not, neither are the resurrections described in Revelation 20 figurative.

 

The 1000 years in the old testament:
Isaiah 65:20
Ezekiel chapters 40 to the end.
Zechariah chapter 14.

You can not fit those passages within your view,
only a 1000 year reign on this earth, including death,
a reign over the remaining mortals, makes sense with all of the
scripture in unison, your view is not in unison with ALL the scripture
about the subject.


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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Ezekiel 35 == Judgement on Esau
Ezekiel 36 == Judgement on the nations and promise of the reign
Ezekiel 37 == The resurrections and the reign of the Messiah
Ezekiel 38 and 39 == Gog and Magog

Which is following the same order given in Revelation.

Revelation 19:20-21 == Judgement on the nations
Revelation 20:4-5 == the resurrections
Revelation 20:6-7 == the 1000 year reign
Revelation 20:7-9 == Gog and Magog

"...this is the first resurrection, blessed and holy is he
that has part in the first resurrection"
Revelation 20:5-6

You claim that all of Revelation 20:1-7 is figurative.
Was the death and resurrection of Christ figurative?
If not, neither are the resurrections described in Revelation 20 figurative.

 

The 1000 years in the old testament:
Isaiah 65:20
Ezekiel chapters 40 to the end.
Zechariah chapter 14.

You can not fit those passages within your view,
only a 1000 year reign on this earth, including death,
a reign over the remaining mortals, makes sense with all of the
scripture in unison, your view is not in unison with ALL the scripture
about the subject.

Ezekiel chapters 35-37 is prophecy by Ezekiel on Israel returning to Jerusalem "After" the 70 year Babylonian Captivity Long Ago "Fulfilled"!

Ezekiel chapters 38-39 is the gog-magog war fought long ago with "Wooden Weapons" Spears, Shields, Bows, Arrows, "Fulfilled"!

Israel has a present population of 10 million people, and you believe that these 10 million people are going to burn "Wooden Weapons" in "Future" fires for 7 years "Real Big Smiles"!

Ezekiel 39:9-10KJV

9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:

10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God.

 

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Revelation 20:4-5 == the resurrections
Revelation 20:6-7 == the 1000 year reign

 Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?

2.) Physical Earthly Throne?

3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?

2.) Physical Earthly Throne?

3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

^^^^^^ the antichrist has been found


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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Ezekiel 35 == Judgement on Esau
Ezekiel 36 == Judgement on the nations and promise of the reign
Ezekiel 37 == The resurrections and the reign of the Messiah
Ezekiel 38 and 39 == Gog and Magog

Which is following the same order given in Revelation.

Revelation 19:20-21 == Judgement on the nations
Revelation 20:4-5 == the resurrections
Revelation 20:6-7 == the 1000 year reign
Revelation 20:7-9 == Gog and Magog

"...this is the first resurrection, blessed and holy is he
that has part in the first resurrection"
Revelation 20:5-6

You claim that all of Revelation 20:1-7 is figurative.
Was the death and resurrection of Christ figurative?
If not, neither are the resurrections described in Revelation 20 figurative.

 

The 1000 years in the old testament:
Isaiah 65:20
Ezekiel chapters 40 to the end.
Zechariah chapter 14.

You can not fit those passages within your view,
only a 1000 year reign on this earth, including death,
a reign over the remaining mortals, makes sense with all of the
scripture in unison, your view is not in unison with ALL the scripture
about the subject.

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

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Posted (edited)
12 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

You've clearly been answered on the questions, next

Nope, not at all.

You say you answered, but all you did was respond with something I didn't ask for.

Your responses are public and everyone can see that you did not answer my question as I asked it.

You haven't even attempted to answer the question I posed. You repeatedly sidestepped answering the question, as asked.

You are trying to protect the one thing that you know I can use to upend your faulty interpretation of scripture. You obviously fear giving a direct answer to a very specific question. 

Maintaining your narrative is not the same as answering a question... It's merely repeating yourself without anyone being able to figure out why you are so confused about biblical prophecy. 

 

What is your PERSONAL definition of the  heavens and of the earth? I haven't asked for scripture that supports your narrative, I'm asking for YOU to answer a simple question. If you don't know, say so; but please stop acting as if you are the controller of all information.

If you don't like being asked questions, don't post ideas that are contrary to God's written plan for the end times.

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Posted
51 minutes ago, Indentured Servant said:

Nope, not at all.

You say you answered, but all you did was respond with something I didn't ask for.

Your responses are public and everyone can see that you did not answer my question as I asked it.

You haven't even attempted to answer the question I posed. You repeatedly sidestepped answering the question, as asked.

You are trying to protect the one thing that you know I can use to upend your faulty interpretation of scripture. You obviously fear giving a direct answer to a very specific question. 

Maintaining your narrative is not the same as answering a question... It's merely repeating yourself without anyone being able to figure out why you are so confused about biblical prophecy. 

 

What is your PERSONAL definition of the  heavens and of the earth? I haven't asked for scripture that supports your narrative, I'm asking for YOU to answer a simple question. If you don't know, say so; but please stop acting as if you are the controller of all information.

If you don't like being asked questions, don't post ideas that are contrary to God's written plan for the end times.

You've clearly been answered (The Present Earth And Heavens) Read It Again

I explained very clearly using the scripture in context, it would be 4th grade reading comprehension, I will give you bold type and underline it this time (The Present Heavens And Earth Which Are Now)

God's words in context clearly define the present heavens and earth which are now, do you actually read the scripture that's simple and clear before your eyes?

2 Peter 3:7KJV

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.


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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, truth7t7 said:

You've clearly been answered (The Present Earth And Heavens) Read It Again

I explained very clearly using the scripture in context, it would be 4th grade reading comprehension, I will give you bold type and underline it this time (The Present Heavens And Earth Which Are Now)

God's words in context clearly define the present heavens and earth which are now, do you actually read the scripture that's simple and clear before your eyes?

2 Peter 3:7KJV

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Yes, yes, yes .. I keep reading that. 

But, it did NOT answer the question I posed to you. It answers a question, but just not the one I asked. It simply was unrelated to what I was asking of you, completely. 

Perhaps I'll reword my question to fit your answer.... Replacement question:

"Hey, can you repeat that, ya know, what you wrote earlier, just maybe change it up a little for me, I'm only in the fourth grade."

Perfect! Now I see the validity of your answer!  Spot on, man. Hey, I guess now I can't say my question wasn't answered. You have indeed provided a thorough, and understandable answer and I thank you. Buhbye...

 

 

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