The Faith of President Donald Trump - CBN

[Patticats]

 

[Neighbor]

Watched it, not all that bad but is mostly  just  a presentation to sell a book. Okay I guess, everybody likes to make a buck.

[Patticats]

7 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Watched it, not all that bad but is mostly  just  a presentation to sell a book. Okay I guess, everybody likes to make a buck.

CBN is a Christian Trusted Source in the Media World. They are interviewing a man who wrote a book about President Trump's faith. So many want to know about President Trump faith and I am glad they did the interview. For some who may may not buy the book he is telling about what is in it. There were so many good things that came up in the interview. This not only about selling a book. I found it very encouraging!

[Neighbor]

So the writer has him is going toward being evangelical Pentecostal is that right? The image of POTUS doing a Holy Spirit shuffle on  a Truth Social post crossed my mind as being just a tad humorous. I guess I can rely  on Franklin Graham to straighten him out if it happens.

[Patticats]

6 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

So the writer has him is going toward being evangelical Pentecostal is that right? The image of POTUS doing a Holy Spirit shuffle on  a Truth Social post crossed my mind as being just a tad humorous. I guess I can rely  on Franklln Graham to straighten him out if it happens.

There was nothing about that in the video. I won't be responding until you can talk about what is in the video. 

[Neighbor]

16 minutes ago, Patticats said:

There was nothing about that in the video. I won't be responding until you can talk about what is in the video. 

 I heard the mention that he is being influenced  like never before by Evangelical Pentecostal Christians. It can be found starting at  the 2:58 minute mark.

[Patticats]

22 hours ago, Neighbor said:

 I heard the mention that he is being influenced  like never before by Evangelical Pentecostal Christians. It can be found starting at  the 2:58 minute mark.

What were the good things that were said. I am not going to discuss what you think are negative things. Can't you rejoice that 2 people says he is a believer? If you can't, God does!

[teddyv]

It's not easy to make any real qualified statements based on that interview.  I can get behind being a "believer", but that is not really a defining quality ("Lord, Lord, did we not ....).

Paula White should raise some red flags.

Also, Mr. Brody seems to downplay the "Twitter feed" stuff as just his brawling nature (to his credit, he says he should stop).  I am drawn to Jesus' words:

But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.” Matthew 15:18-20

His post regarding that Episcopalian pastor was absolutely appalling and demonstrates that he knows or cares little of mercy or humility or grace.

He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God" Micah 6:8

This does not discount him as a believer, but I don't think he really gets what it means to be a Christian (yet). Self-sacrifice? I have not seen that demonstrated. Humility? Hardly. 

I get that being a president can be difficult to fully integrate faith into that role. Carter was probably the most honestly Christian man to be in that role, but that does not mean you can fill that role well just because of that (plus other stuff that he had little control over, but everyone has that.)

 

Personally, I think it is these Christian Nationalist pastors that have curried this idea of his faith in order to further their goals. 

[Neighbor]

6 hours ago, Patticats said:

What were the good things that were said. I am not going to discuss what you think are negative things. Can't you rejoice some that 2 people says he is a believer? If you can't, God does!

I take it you are changing the subject from what was said within the video about his being influenced by Evangelical Pentecostal  leaders? Might you acknowledge that the video does indeed state he is being influenced by Pentecostalists? ??? I didn't state it the video did, starting at the 2.58 minute mark. Whether true or not is yet another subject.

Personally I am not influenced one way or another by any person's faith. I  trust totally in the faith of Jesus. I trust in His faith alone. To follow a man any man based upon an understanding of his faith  is to be sorely disappointed at some point when the person fails or falls. That is one of the great lessons of life, that when a shepherd fails the sheep will scatter.

Those that raise up  various preachers/leaders to great heights as example  simply set up a much steeper deeper fall for those that have been so raised up, their followers become severely delusioned, some never recovering.

Be careful to exalt Christ Jesus alone! He is God he never disappoints, only He is worthy.

[Patticats]

1 hour ago, teddyv said:

It's not easy to make any real qualified statements based on that interview.  I can get behind being a "believer", but that is not really a defining quality ("Lord, Lord, did we not ....).

Paula White should raise some red flags.

Also, Mr. Brody seems to downplay the "Twitter feed" stuff as just his brawling nature (to his credit, he says he should stop).  I am drawn to Jesus' words:

But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.” Matthew 15:18-20

His post regarding that Episcopalian pastor was absolutely appalling and demonstrates that he knows or cares little of mercy or humility or grace.

He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God" Micah 6:8

This does not discount him as a believer, but I don't think he really gets what it means to be a Christian (yet). Self-sacrifice? I have not seen that demonstrated. Humility? Hardly. 

I get that being a president can be difficult to fully integrate faith into that role. Carter was probably the most honestly Christian man to be in that role, but that does not mean you can fill that role well just because of that (plus other stuff that he had little control over, but everyone has that.)

 

Personally, I think it is these Christian Nationalist pastors that have curried this idea of his faith in order to further their goals. 

Well Teddy I'm a Christian and not a Christian Nationalist. I support Trump also. It appears that you only want to see the negative in President Donald Tump. What if only others saw the negative in your life and other people's lives. Then we are even with Trump? As Chrisitans we are all held to the same standards including you, me and President Trump. We are all in need of Jesus to save us.

As far as the  Episcopalian pastor she had an agenda even before the start. The people in charge had an agenda also.  As in the days Lot.. But, she only gave her opinions.

When you don't live US you don't get the clear picture. Only what Liberal News tells you.

We're suppose to celebrate when someone come to Christ. And you have two people saying President Trump is a Christian. God is our Judge and he knows our heart. We can't say someone isn't because we aren't God.