Unravelling Revelation

[DeighAnn]

3 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Your claimed 1,000 year "Lord's Day" doesn't exist in scripture, better known as a Millennial Kingdom on this earth

Not only did I claim IT DID, I showed where IT IS WRITTEN and written as such.  

Read Rev 19 and 20 and you too will see it, that is unless you are following some theory that says all that isn't true.  Hey, they didn't believe Jesus was the Saviour when He was here the first time, even though it was written exactly how it went down.  

 

 

3 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

Of course the end comes AFTER the dead are resurrected.  The ONLY PROBLEM is you don't understand that 'the Lords Day' is 1000 years (and all THE EVENTS that take place in those 1000 years)  


 

[truth7t7]

3 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

Satan is bound AFTER Christ returns, if you believe it as it is written that is.   So to that, it can't be 'clearly' shown anywhere.  

Again,
Starting in Rev 19 
Defeat of the Beast and False Prophet

17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

and it continues on in Rev 20

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The nations - 1484 ethnos 
Strong's Lexicon
Definition: Nation, Gentile, people
Meaning: a race, people, nation; the nations, heathen world, Gentiles

aka EVERYONE


4105 planaó 
Strong's Lexicon
Definition: To lead astray, to deceive, to cause to wander


GODS WORD/GODS TRUTH will be taught for the Lords Day/those 1000 years Satan is bound/the Millennium in which we reign WITH CHRIST.  No evil spirits or influences or doctrines or teachings to 'planao' at that time.

surely NOT what we are experiencing today as there are 'theories and doctrines' that abound everywhere, the wisdom of man put forth OVER what is written.


How BOUND is this binding???  Will there be ANY PART of Satans influence allowed when he is bound during that 1000 years???

Let's see

he is cast into 'the Abyss', which is
12  abussos 
Strong's Lexicon
Definition: Abyss, bottomless pit, deep
Meaning: the abyss, unfathomable depth, an especially Jewish conception, the home of the dead and of evil spirits.


That is clearly in itself is off the charts and away from it all.  BUT GOD isn't done making sure WE UNDERSTAND how far gone from us he will be, so HE ALSO tells us he will be 'bound'

1210 deó 
Strong's Lexicon
Definition: To bind, tie, fasten
I bind, tie, fasten; I impel, compel; I declare to be prohibited and unlawful.

AND shut up


2808 kleió 
Strong's Lexicon
Definition: To shut, close, lock
Meaning: I shut, shut up.

the concept of opening and closing is often associated with divine authority and control over access to spiritual truths or the kingdom of God.

and TO BE SURE WE HAVE A COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MUCH SATANS EVIL SPIRIT 'WILL NOT' ESCAPING TO DECEIVE

4972 sphragizó 
Strong's Lexicon
Definition: To seal, to set a seal upon, to mark with a seal
Meaning: I seal, set a seal upon.

Word Origin- sphragis - seal, signet

like when the king wrote a letter and sealed it with a signet ring or other instrument to attest ownership, authorizing what is sealed.

 

As for Satan being bound today, it is quite clear he is not, he has been given a crown and has a fake bow and is obviously going forth upon the world to conquer and conquering as there is lots of deception taking place all around  


As for Rev 20 7,8 it is AFTER he IS LOOSED from the abyss at the END of the 1000 years, and NOT BEFORE.  

Jesus came, was rejected.  Satan lost war in heaven and is coming.  Christ returns and when He does, Satan is bound for 1000 years.  During those 1000 years, the dead are taught 'life'.  At the end of the 1000 years, Satan is loosed to see who he can deceive.  Those he does gather to battle once again and GOD TAKES THEM OUT.
The GWTJ has separated the eternal good/living from the eternal evil/dead and then



A NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH...all memory of this age gone aka yet another 'in the beginning' begins




 

You don't want to acknowledge the simple and clear scripture below "Why"?

Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

[truth7t7]

4 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

Of course the end comes AFTER the dead are resurrected.  The ONLY PROBLEM is you don't understand that 'the Lords Day' is 1000 years (and all THE EVENTS that take place in those 1000 years)  

(Then Cometh The End) takes place at the coming of Jesus, there won't be a 1,000 year Kingdom on this earth following as you claim, you can repeat your belief a hundred times, the scripture below silences your claim in the "Lord's Day" being a 1,000 year kingdom on earth "After" the return of Jesus

Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

Edited March 27 by truth7t7

[Indentured Servant]

10 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Your claimed 1,000 year "Lord's Day" doesn't exist in scripture, better known as a Millennial Kingdom on this earth

I love it when whack-a-doodles try to say Scripture doesn't mean what it says... Do you not trust Scripture?????????????????

[truth7t7]

4 hours ago, Indentured Servant said:

I love it when whack-a-doodles try to say Scripture doesn't mean what it says... Do you not trust Scripture?????????????????

Read It Again

(Then Cometh The End) takes place at the coming of Jesus, there won't be a 1,000 year Kingdom on this earth following as you claim, you can repeat your belief a hundred times, the scripture below silences your claim in the "Lord's Day" being a 1,000 year kingdom on earth "After" the return of Jesus

Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

[Indentured Servant]

7 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Read It Again

(Then Cometh The End) takes place at the coming of Jesus, there won't be a 1,000 year Kingdom on this earth following as you claim, you can repeat your belief a hundred times, the scripture below silences your claim in the "Lord's Day" being a 1,000 year kingdom on earth "After" the return of Jesus

Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

One literally has to willfully ignore what appears in Scripture SIX TIMES, and only consider a personal interpretation of bits and pieces of strategically selected scripture that feed your narrative. 

You're not telling me that I'm wrong, you're essentially claiming that Scripture is wrong, and you're trying to prove it.

To openly assert that scripture does not say what it obviously does say, and to consistently bait people to argue about it is foolishness. 

I am under no obligation to enter into a one-sided conversation. Learn better communication skills, and that's all I am going to say. 

[Locust]

On 2/22/2025 at 11:46 AM, Deborah_ said:

According to my interpretation, the 144,000 are all Christians. So I am one of them - and so are you. And according to I Peter 2:9, we are God's kingdom of priests.

were you ask'ed or were you told?

ok sure they are Christian ,describing them as believers in Jesus as the christ.  it does not matter from what ever nation they come from .

how many Christians have lived since the death of Jesus ? its a number that cant be known .  safe to say its way over 144000 . 

[Deborah_]

1 hour ago, Locust said:

were you ask'ed or were you told?

ok sure they are Christian ,describing them as believers in Jesus as the christ.  it does not matter from what ever nation they come from .

how many Christians have lived since the death of Jesus ? its a number that cant be known .  safe to say its way over 144000 . 

But then 144,000 is a symbolic number - it means all of us, the exact total is immaterial.

[Locust]

3 hours ago, Deborah_ said:

But then 144,000 is a symbolic number - it means all of us, the exact total is immaterial.

did you read revelation 7:9.? that is all of us. not in heaven but on earth