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  1. What gives you the idea that I'm using Google Translate? Hasn't it occurred to you that I might actually have studied New Testament Greek and know what I'm talking about?
  2. You only have to learn a little New Testament Greek grammar to know what I mean.
  3. Have you ever learned a language like Greek, where nouns take different forms ("cases")? The preposition may stay the same, but whether it means 'with' or 'after' is shown by the form of the noun that comes after it. "meta ten thlipsin" means "after the tribulation"; "with the tribulation" would be "meta tes thlipseos" It is not correct to mix them up!
  4. Our denominational labels are just that: labels. God's Kingdom consists of those who believe in His Son, so it includes Christians from all denominations (and none). Shortly after becoming a Christian I went off to university and joined the Christian Union there. Its members came from all kinds of denominational background, but we never used our denominational labels - we were all 'Christians' first and Baptist/Anglican/Methodist/Pentecostal/Catholic second.
  5. I'm talking about Greek grammar - English doesn't have accusative and genitive cases! You can only read the original Greek correctly by using Greek grammar - and there the cases do make a difference.
  6. No Not that I know of There is no longer 'one' true church; whether we like it or not, we are split into groups that are called denominations (whether we agree with that term or not). Everyone who is a member of God's Kingdom is also a member of one of these sub-groups (even if it calls itself "non-denominational", or even if they are a "denomination of one" i.e. a lone Christian who doesn't belong to any church). What does this question mean? If you're asking, "Is God's Kingdom divided into denominations?" the answer is "No." But if you're effectively asking, "Are different denominations to be found in God's Kingdom?" then the answer is "Yes."
  7. The one is a foretaste of the other (II Peter 2:6), so it makes no difference. Since Rahab's faith is held up as an example of the faith that saves us from eternal judgement (James 2:25), then they must be equivalent.
  8. Unfortunately it isn't quite as simple as that. Whether meta means 'after' or 'with' depends on the case of the noun that follows it. If it means 'after', the noun is in the accusative case. If it means 'with', the noun is in the genitive case. They aren't interchangeable! And 'ten thlipsin' (the tribulation) is accusative. So I'm afraid it has to mean "after the tribulation."
  9. That is standard teaching, of course - so how do you explain the salvation of Rahab's family being promised to them (in Judges 2) before they had any opportunity to exercise faith and, indeed, regardless of it? I don't know how this tension should be resolved, but I find it intriguing.
  10. Interesting question - especially when you bear in mind that Noah's wife and children were saved from the Flood by his faith (theirs is never mentioned), and that not just Rahab but all of her family who took shelter in her house were saved when Jericho was destroyed (Judges 2:17-19, 6:22,23). Maybe in certain circumstances faith can be a bit like magnetism: if you put a magnet into a box of pins, not just the pins touching the magnet but also any pins touching them can be drawn out by the magnetism (but this effect quickly wears off as you get further away from direct contact with the magnet). It certainly isn't something that can be taken for granted: Lot's sons-in-law could have been saved along with his daughters, but chose to stay in Sodom (Genesis 19:12-14).
  11. Deborah_


    Same-sex attraction is part of our fallenness. We all have hang-ups and predispositions towards certain sins (there is such a thing as an "addictive" personality, for example, and some people naturally have very short tempers). Do these people blame God for creating them the way they are? Do they use it as an excuse for not fighting against their personal temptations?
  12. I voted for the first option in the first question, but actually none of them fitted my experience. I hadn't heard "the gospel" at all when I became a Christian. It was only about 6 months later that I did hear a clear presentation of it - wanted to become a Christian and realised that I already was!
  13. Look at this verse in context. Jesus is teaching us not to be anxious about where our next meal is going to come from. Birds work for their food - they have to forage, might have to fly a long way in search of it. We have to work for ours as well! Their are still some hunter-gatherer communities in the world who live in the same way as the wild birds. But most of us live in a situation where food is normally obtained with money, which means that we have to acquire the money somehow. But the principle is the same: Don't be anxious about it!
  14. There was no manna falling down in Jesus' time either. God can answer our prayers for 'bread' in many ways, depending on our situation - such as by giving a subsistence farmer rain, or by giving an unemployed person a job. "Remember the LORD your God, for it is He who gives you the ability to produce wealth..." (Deuteronomy 8:18)
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