Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[DeighAnn]

On 5/2/2025 at 4:48 PM, truth7t7 said:

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

How can anyone be 'fleeing' if they are all burnt up, THE END?  

 

On 5/2/2025 at 4:48 PM, truth7t7 said:

 

Zechariah Chapter 14 Is "The Eternal Kingdom"

Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement.

(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.

(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.

(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 22:1KJV

And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Eternal Kingdom"!

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV

1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.

11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

If everyone is burnt up 'THE END' when He comes in flaming fire, then which nations are left to be gathered, weren't they all burnt up, THE END?  

"(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins."

How can He be returning in flaming fire AND have His feet touch down on the Mt of Olives?  

Will everyone be STANDING in FLAMES while being judged and then go INTO the lake of fire?  AT WHAT POINT is it the NHNE?  

Do you think the LOF is a part of the NHNE age? or this one? 

His return EITHER brings about the NHNE or the NHNE comes AFTER the resurrection and the GWTJ, it can't be both.  


"(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5"

6  And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark: 7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

Do you believe the ETERNAL Kingdom will be just 'a day'?  or the light seen in the kingdom is going to be not be clear, nor dark'?  not day not night?  



"(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5"

8  And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

 Do you believe there will be SEAS in the Eternal Kingdom even when it is written...

A New Heaven and a New Earth

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6  And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7  He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

 

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet,


Are you saying this is the 'arrival' of the NEW JERUSALEM?  

10  All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses. 11  And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.


BEcause it sure is written as if it is the CURRENT one.  Are you saying THIS will be taking place in the NHNE also?  

12  And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth. 13  And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour. 14  And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance. 15  And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.

EITHER HE comes in flaming fire AND everything is burnt up THE END, or He comes for 'the 1000 year DAY of the Lord' and all these things transpire during that time because  you can't have everything BURNT UP THE END, then add a bunch of events to it...at least not in any way that makes sense, at least not to me, and hopefully/PRAYFULLY neither to anyone who may be reading this discourse.  


 

[DeighAnn]

On 5/2/2025 at 4:59 PM, truth7t7 said:

24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

You know what SAVED who walk in the LIGHT OF IT won't ever be doing???  We find it in Zech 14...

All Nations will Worship the King

16  And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. 17  And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. 18  And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. 19  This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.


Do you believe there will be PLAGUES in the NHNE?  Do you believe those who don't love the LORD GOD and the Lamb will make it past the GWTJ?  Do you believe any man with unrepented and unforgiven sin could remain ALIVE in the presence of THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY when He comes to DWELL upon the earth?
 

[truth7t7]

7 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

I understand you see them as being the same but that doesn't make it TRUTH, it makes it your belief as to what is, nothing more.  

If you believe there will be waters that NEED TO BE HEALED in the NHNE, that is up to you.  I believe there will NOT be a need for any waters to be healed because all things will have been made new again.

If you believe there will be 'miry' places and marishes that shall not be healed in the NHNE then that ALSO is up to you, and again, I believe there will not be ANY places that will need to be healed or remain unhealed and given to salt because everything will have been made new again, and there wont be any remembrance of the former things and those will be former things, I BELIEVE.  

If you believe there will be a 'border from the sea' in the NHNE that is up to you, but I don't believe there will be because I don't believe there will be any more sea because that is what is written of the NHNE. 

I don't believe there will be any angels 'begetting' children in the NHNE because Jesus Christ said there will be no taking and giving in marriage, and we will be like the angels in heaven, but if YOU want to believe that will be taking place AGAIN, that is up to you.  

Yes I Will Continue To Believe That Ezekiel Chapters 47 & 48 Is "The Eternal Kingdom" Where The River And Tree Of Life Is Present, Where The Gates Of New Jerusalem Are Seen Bearing The Names Of The 12 Tribes Of Israel, As Clearly Seen Below

Seen In Ezekiel Below Is (The Eternal Kingdom) Same River And Tree Of life, Same Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves Of The Tree For Healing/Medicine, Same Gates Of New Jerusalem With The Names Of The 12 Tribes Of Israel

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Ezekiel 47:12KJV

12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Revelation 22:1-2KJV

1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Eternal "New Jerusalem"

Ezekiel 48:31KJV

31 And the gates of the city shall be after the names of the tribes of Israel: three gates northward; one gate of Reuben, one gate of Judah, one gate of Levi.

Revelation 21:12KJV

12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

[truth7t7]

7 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

How can anyone be 'fleeing' if they are all burnt up, THE END?  

 

If everyone is burnt up 'THE END' when He comes in flaming fire, then which nations are left to be gathered, weren't they all burnt up, THE END?  

"(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins."

How can He be returning in flaming fire AND have His feet touch down on the Mt of Olives?  

Will everyone be STANDING in FLAMES while being judged and then go INTO the lake of fire?  AT WHAT POINT is it the NHNE?  

Do you think the LOF is a part of the NHNE age? or this one? 

His return EITHER brings about the NHNE or the NHNE comes AFTER the resurrection and the GWTJ, it can't be both.  


"(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5"

6  And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark: 7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

Do you believe the ETERNAL Kingdom will be just 'a day'?  or the light seen in the kingdom is going to be not be clear, nor dark'?  not day not night?  



"(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5"

8  And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

 Do you believe there will be SEAS in the Eternal Kingdom even when it is written...

A New Heaven and a New Earth

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6  And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7  He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

 

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet,


Are you saying this is the 'arrival' of the NEW JERUSALEM?  

10  All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses. 11  And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.


BEcause it sure is written as if it is the CURRENT one.  Are you saying THIS will be taking place in the NHNE also?  

12  And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth. 13  And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour. 14  And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance. 15  And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.

EITHER HE comes in flaming fire AND everything is burnt up THE END, or He comes for 'the 1000 year DAY of the Lord' and all these things transpire during that time because  you can't have everything BURNT UP THE END, then add a bunch of events to it...at least not in any way that makes sense, at least not to me, and hopefully/PRAYFULLY neither to anyone who may be reading this discourse.  
 

My explanation is very detailed, when Jesus returns (The Day Of The Lord) takes place, he returns in fire and final judgement, the event of mortal turning into eternal immortal takes place in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" death is swallowed up in victory, judgement is complete, eternity begins in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, it's that simple

Zechariah Chapter 14 Is "The Eternal Kingdom"

Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement.

(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.

(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.

(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 22:1KJV

And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Eternal Kingdom"!

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV

1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.

11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

[truth7t7]

7 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

You know what SAVED who walk in the LIGHT OF IT won't ever be doing???  We find it in Zech 14...

All Nations will Worship the King

16  And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. 17  And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. 18  And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. 19  This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.


Do you believe there will be PLAGUES in the NHNE?  Do you believe those who don't love the LORD GOD and the Lamb will make it past the GWTJ?  Do you believe any man with unrepented and unforgiven sin could remain ALIVE in the presence of THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY when He comes to DWELL upon the earth?
 

In speaking about plagues the words from the Lord  "IF" are used no plagues are taking place, everyone present will have been found in the book of life as seen below, and all the righteous saved present in the NHNE will go to New Jerusalem for the feast of tabernacles

Who Will Be Left Of The Nations Zechariah 14:16?

You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord

You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning)

Zechariah 14:12KJV

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living)

Zechariah 14:16KJV

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Isaiah 4:3-4KJV

3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:

4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

Revelation 21:24-27KJV

24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Edited Monday at 07:10 AM by truth7t7

[Desopixi Seilynam]

On 5/3/2025 at 5:37 AM, truth7t7 said:

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?

2.) Physical Earthly Throne?

3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

 

"And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies
gathered together to make war against  Him that sat upon the horse,
and His army." Revelation 19:19

"And the rest were slain with the sword of Him that sat
upon the horse, which sword proceeded from His mouth"
Revelation 19:21

(Revelation 20 is in red)

And I saw an angle COME DOWN from the sky,
having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Revelation 20:1 
Come down to where? Earth.

And he laid hold on the dragon,

Where is the dragon?
"And the great dragon was cast out....
he was cast out into the earth" Revelation 12:9
"Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea
for the devil is come down to you" Revelation 12:12
Earth.

that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan,
and bound him a thousand years

And I saw THRONES, and they (Rev 19:7,14, Rev 3:21)
sat on them, and judgement was given unto them:
and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded....;
and they

(all of them, the two groups of them,
the saints and the martyrs)

lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years

But the rest of the dead lived not again
until the thousand years were finished,
this is the first resurrection.

And when the thousand years are finished,
Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
and shall go out to deceive the nations
which are in the four quarters of THE EARTH,
Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle
the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

AND THEY (Mortals) WENT UP ON THE BREATH OF THE EARTH,
and surrounded the camp of the saints, and the beloved city,
and fire came DOWN from God OUT OF THE SKY

Revelation 20:1-9

Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm,
thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land,
thou, and all your bands, and many people with you.
Ezekiel 38:9

Airplanes literally fly using the breath of the earth.
Airplanes, they will be attempting to nuke the camp of the saints.

 

[truth7t7]

5 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

 

"And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies
gathered together to make war against  Him that sat upon the horse,
and His army." Revelation 19:19

"And the rest were slain with the sword of Him that sat
upon the horse, which sword proceeded from His mouth"
Revelation 19:21

(Revelation 20 is in red)

And I saw an angle COME DOWN from the sky,
having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Revelation 20:1 
Come down to where? Earth.

And he laid hold on the dragon,

Where is the dragon?
"And the great dragon was cast out....
he was cast out into the earth" Revelation 12:9
"Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea
for the devil is come down to you" Revelation 12:12
Earth.

that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan,
and bound him a thousand years

And I saw THRONES, and they (Rev 19:7,14, Rev 3:21)
sat on them, and judgement was given unto them:
and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded....;
and they

(all of them, the two groups of them,
the saints and the martyrs)

lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years

But the rest of the dead lived not again
until the thousand years were finished,
this is the first resurrection.

And when the thousand years are finished,
Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
and shall go out to deceive the nations
which are in the four quarters of THE EARTH,
Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle
the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

AND THEY (Mortals) WENT UP ON THE BREATH OF THE EARTH,
and surrounded the camp of the saints, and the beloved city,
and fire came DOWN from God OUT OF THE SKY

Revelation 20:1-9

Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm,
thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land,
thou, and all your bands, and many people with you.
Ezekiel 38:9

Airplanes literally fly using the breath of the earth.
Airplanes, they will be attempting to nuke the camp of the saints.

 

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

[DeighAnn]

On 5/4/2025 at 11:08 PM, truth7t7 said:

Yes I Will Continue To Believe That Ezekiel Chapters 47 & 48 Is "The Eternal Kingdom" Where The River And Tree Of Life Is Present, Where The Gates Of New Jerusalem Are Seen Bearing The Names Of The 12 Tribes Of Israel, As Clearly Seen Below

Seen In Ezekiel Below Is (The Eternal Kingdom) Same River And Tree Of life, Same Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves Of The Tree For Healing/Medicine, Same Gates Of New Jerusalem With The Names Of The 12 Tribes Of Israel

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Ezekiel 47:12KJV

12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Revelation 22:1-2KJV

1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Eternal "New Jerusalem"

Ezekiel 48:31KJV

31 And the gates of the city shall be after the names of the tribes of Israel: three gates northward; one gate of Reuben, one gate of Judah, one gate of Levi.

Revelation 21:12KJV

12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

I see you are able to point to the things that will be the same.  I am just looking toward the time when you will be able to see the differences and start rightly dividing between the 'times'.  This is no different than those who try to ascribe to the House of Judah what is written to the House of Israel.  Not until it is seen, can it be seen, and then it is so simple we wonder how we couldn't see it before...





25  See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: 26  Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. 27  And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. 28  Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: 29  For our God is a consuming fire.



 

[DeighAnn]

On 5/5/2025 at 9:56 AM, truth7t7 said:

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

Satan has not STOOD where he ought not, he hasn't been worshipped as God, he hasn't deceived the whole world BECAUSE the war in heaven hasn't ended, the angels kicked out with him aren't here, there have never been any supernatural signs and wonders but most importantly, what you can't get around in any way is (and it is always the most simple detail that brings an end to a doctrine of man) found in Matt 24, Mark 13, Luke 21...

5  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6  And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7  For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8  All these are the beginning of sorrows.  9  Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11  And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12  And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14  And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


Even after Christ crucified, Christians weren't 'hated' of all nations, just the Romans.  The rest of the world didn't even know about them.  And there was no way the gospel was preached unto all the nations back then, it still hasn't happened and UNTIL it does, the end can't come.  And the end doesn't come until Satan and his angels are kicked out of heaven...and then and only then will it be possible for the world to see...

15  When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 


And how do we know he isn't 'bound' and in the bottomless pit, and shut up, and a seal set upon him NOW?  Because of the first seal....that tells us his evil spirit is still ruling UPON THE WORLD,

First reason would be The WORDS OF JESUS himself...
25  These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.  27  Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. 28  Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. 29  And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe. 30  Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. 31  But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

and then 'The book' that was opened as soon as the King and the Kingdom were rejected here on earth...

1  And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
 

And it is only AFTER the WORKINGS of Satan with all LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS do we see the return of Christ WHO brightness destroys 

7  For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8  And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


And only then would it be possible for

1  And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3  And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


Which would be THE LORDS DAY, the day John was taken to, of which we are taught is 1000 years..., the day you don't see 


 

[DeighAnn]

On 5/4/2025 at 11:37 PM, truth7t7 said:

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

And we have come FULL CIRCLE yet again....the ALIVE and remaining are changed, BUT THE DEAD HAVE TO DIE THE FIRST DEATH.... aka 'flesh shall consume away' 'supper' ...remember NO FLESH AND BLOOD in the Kingdom...

WHICH DEAD?  The SPIRITUALLY DEAD, the DEAD in CHRIST, those who have not been SAVED FROM DEATH, those who have not been MADE ALIVE IN CHRIST, those who remained DEAD in their sins and tresspasses...THE DEAD


17  And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18  That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.



50  Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51  Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.