Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[Luther]

10 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Yes I Agree

IMHO the Talmud is held higher than the Old Testatement in modern day Judaism, it contains many controversial statements regarding (Gentiles/Goyim), Christianity, and Jesus Christ

Wikipedia: Talmud (/ˈtɑːlmʊd, -məd, ˈtæl-/; Hebrew: תַּלְמוּד‎, romanized: Talmūḏ, lit. 'teaching') is the central text of Rabbinic Judaism and the primary source of Jewish religious law (halakha) and Jewish theology.^[2][3][4][5] Until the advent of modernity, in nearly all Jewish communities, the Talmud was the centerpiece of Jewish cultural life and was foundational to "all Jewish thought and aspirations", serving also as "the guide for the daily life" of Jews.^[6] The Talmud includes the teachings and opinions of thousands of rabbis on a variety of subjects, including halakha, Jewish ethics, philosophy, customs, history, and folklore, and many other topics.

The Talmud is a commentary on the Mishnah.^[a][7] This text is made up of 63 tractates, each covering one subject area. The language of the Talmud is Jewish Babylonian Aramaic. Talmudic tradition emerged and was compiled between the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE and the Arab conquest in the early seventh century.^[8] Traditionally, it is thought that the Talmud itself was compiled by Rav Ashi and Ravina II around 500 CE, although it is more likely that this happened in the middle of the sixth century.^[9]

The word Talmud commonly refers to the Babylonian Talmud (Talmud Bavli) and not the earlier Jerusalem Talmud (Talmud Yerushalmi).^[10] The Babylonian Talmud is the more extensive of the two and is considered the more important.^[11]

You said: "IMHO the Talmud is held higher than the Old Testatement in modern day Judaism...."

That's a fact. Anything found in the talmud that relates to the Torah has been  re- interpreted by the  " rabbinical sages", contradictory to it's original meaning. I prefer to abstain from citing any examples due to much of it's derogatory nature. 

It is actually forbidden ( punishable by death) for a jew to share the talmud with a non- jew. When Martin Luther obtained a copy.... let's just say he went into hysterics. He even wrote a booklet on the subject.

Here's my take on it. The talmud may not be as culturally influential as it once was ( most jews today are not religious), but the overall plan of world governance ( because they simply do not believe in eternal life) and it's ethnic collective principles are the same as when it was first introduced. 

And I'm only stating the facts, which can be easily researched.

Good Old AI:

"While there isn't a precise statistic for the number of Jews who identify as atheists, studies suggest that a significant portion of Jews, particularly those who are not religious by traditional measures, do not believe in God. For example, one study found that only about a third of Jews worldwide consider themselves religious, while 54% see themselves as non-religious and 2% as atheist."

[Frits]

57 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

King James Version, Gods Voice to the English Speaking World!

The King James Version, Gods preserved words in the English Language. I have posted a link so you could better understand the qualifications and knowledge, of those who brought forth the masterpiece in the 1611 King James Version. King James Bible Translators

We know well our Holy Scripture is different than theirs, they will look long and hard in the sands of Alexandria Egypt trying to find the missing text in their main body in Matthew 17:21, 18:11, Acts 8:37, Romans 16:24, as they trust the Novum Testamentum Graece that supports the text of the NIV, NASB, ESV, ETC!

Gods Words at the Hands of Adulterers Kurt and Barbara Aland, and a "Jesuit" Roman Catholic Cardinal, Carlo Maria Martini, Not My Holy Bible!

Kurt Aland (57) college Professor, divorced his wife and ran off with his student (35) Barbara Ehlers, (22 years younger)

Wikipedia: Kurt Aland

Kurt Aland (28 March 1915 – 13 April 1994)

He was one of the principal editors of Nestle-Aland - Novum Testamentum Graece for the Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft and The Greek New Testament for the United Bible Societies.

Aland was married twice. His first marriage was to Ingeborg Aland (they had three children together). In 1972 he married Barbara Aland. He died in Münster, Germany in 1994.

Wikipedia: Barbara Aland

Barbara Aland, née Ehlers (born 12 April 1937 in Hamburg, Germany)

Wikipedia: Novum Testamentum Graece

Today the designation Novum Testamentum Graece normally refers to the Nestle-Aland editions, named after the scholars who led the critical editing work. The text, edited by the Institut für neutestamentliche Textforschung (Institute for New Testament Textual Research) is currently in its 28th edition, abbreviated NA28. The Nestle-Aland text is the primary source for most contemporary New Testament translations, although most are translations of the earlier text that was available at the time of translation. The Nestle-Aland text is also the standard for academic work in New Testament studies.

The title Novum Testamentum Graece can also be applied to the United Bible Societies (UBS) edition which contains the same base text (the latest UBS 4th ed contains the text from the NA27).

Most scholars view uncial text as the most accurate; however, a few authors (such as New Testament scholar Maurice A. Robinson[1] and linguist Wilbur Pickering[2]), Arthur Farstad and Zane C. Hodges claim that the minuscule texts (the Byzantine text-type) more accurately reflect the "autographs" or original texts than an eclectic text like NA27 that relies heavily on manuscripts of the Alexandrian text-type.

Members of the Editorial Committee of the United Bible Societies' Greek New Testament comprise:

UBS1, 1966

UBS2, 1968

Kurt Aland, Matthew Black, Bruce Metzger, Allen Wikgren.

UBS3, 1975

 

Kurt Aland, Matthew Black, Carlo Maria Martini, Bruce Metzger, Allen Wikgren.

UBS4, 1993

Barbara Aland, Kurt Aland, Johannes Karavidopoulos, Carlo Maria Martini, Bruce Metzger

Meet the Alexandrian Greek Text Used by Adulterers Kurt and Barbara Aland, Johannes Karavidopoulos, "Jesuit Cardinal" Carlo Maria Martini, Bruce Metzger for the production of the Novum Testamentum Graece.

Wikipedia: Alexandrian text-type

Most modern New Testaments are based on what is called "reasoned eclecticism" (such as that of the Nestle-Aland 27, the basis of virtually all modern translations) in formulating a Greek text; this invariably results in a text that is strongly Alexandrian in character.

Wikipedia: Codex Sinaiticus

The codex is an Alexandrian text-type manuscript written in the 4th century

The codex has been corrected many thousands of times, making it one of the most corrected manuscripts in existence;

According to Tischendorf, Codex Sinaiticus was one of the fifty copies of the Bible commissioned from Eusebius by Roman Emperor Constantine after his conversion to Christianity (De vita Constantini, IV, 37).[66] This hypothesis was supported by Pierre Batiffol,[67] Gregory, and T. C. Skeat believed that it was already in production when Constantine placed his order, but had to be suspended in order to accommodate different page dimensions.

Tischendorf also believed that four separate scribes copied the work (whom he named A, B, C and D) and that five correctors (whom he designated a, b, c, d and e) amended portions. He posited that one of the correctors was contemporaneous with the original scribes, and that the others dated to the 6th and 7th centuries.

Wikipedia: Codex Vaticanus

According to Hort, it was copied from a manuscript whose line length was 12–14 letters per line, because where the Codex Vaticanus's scribe made large omissions, they were typically 12–14 letters long.

According to Metzger, "the similarity of its text in significant portions of both Testaments with the Coptic versions and with Greek papyri, and the style of writing (notably the Coptic forms used in some of the titles) point rather to Egypt and Alexandria".[37]

T. C. Skeat, a paleographer at the British Museum, first argued that Codex Vaticanus was among the 50 Bibles that the Emperor Constantine I ordered Eusebius of Caesarea to produce.[69] The similarity of the text with the papyri and Coptic version (including some letter formation), parallels with Athanasius' canon of *** suggest an Egyptian or Alexandrian origin.

According to Tischendorf the manuscript was written by three scribes (A, B, C), two of whom appear to have written the Old Testament and one the entire New Testament.[70] Tischendorf's view was accepted by Frederic G. Kenyon

The manuscript has been housed in the Vatican Library (founded by Pope Nicholas V in 1448) for as long as it has been known, appearing in the library's earliest catalog of 1475 (with shelf number 1209), and in the 1481 catalog. In a catalog from 1481 it was described as a "Biblia in tribus columnis ex memb." (Three-Column Vellum Bible)

That's it, You will let a liberal Italian Roman Catholic "Jesuit" Cardinal, that supports Homosexual Civil Union, create a Greek text, and throw Adulterers Barbara and Kurt Aland in there, from corrupt Alexandrian Greek Text's as shown and their presence with his most unholiness the pope.

Only the spiritually blind would follow the Adulterous popelings and Homosexual Union Supporter, and the corruptions from Alexandria Egypt, in the (Novum Testamentum Graece)

"The Authorized King James Version, Gods voice to the English Speaking World!"

Please view the link to view Barbara and Kurt Aland in the presence of pope john paul II his unholiness!

Wikipedia: Carlo Maria Martini

Carlo Maria Martini, S.J., (15 February 1927 – 31 August 2012) was an Italian Jesuit and cardinal of the Catholic Church. He was Archbishop of Milan from 1980 to 2002 and was elevated to the cardinalate in 1983.

Martini entered the Society of Jesus in 1944 and was ordained a priest in 1952. His appointment as Archbishop of Milan in 1980 was an unusual circumstance, as Jesuits are not traditionally named bishops. He was on the liberal wing of the church hierarchy.

Same-sex unions

In his book Credere e conoscere, published shortly before his death, Martini set out his disagreement with the Catholic teaching against homosexual civil unions. "I disagree with the positions of those in the Church, that take issue with civil unions", he wrote. "It is not bad, instead of casual sex between men, that two people have a certain stability" and that the "state could recognize them."

Beginning of human life

Martini's position on the start of a distinct human life during the fertilization of oocytes was rebuked by certain Vatican officials.

Wikipedia: New International Version

The manuscript base for the New Testament was the Koine Greek language editions of the United Bible Societies and of Nestle-Aland.

Wikipedia: New American Standard Bibl

For Greek, Eberhard Nestle's Novum Testamentum Graece was used; the 23rd edition in the 1971 original, and the 26th in the 1995 revision

In the updated NASB, consideration was given to the latest available manuscripts with an emphasis on determining the best Greek text. Primarily, the 26th edition of Nestle-Aland’s Novum Testamentum Graece is closely followed.

ESVbible.org: English Standard Version (ESV)

Textual Basis

the Greek text in the 1993 editions of the Greek New Testament (4th corrected ed.), published by the United Bible Societies (UBS), and Novum Testamentum Graece (27th ed.), edited by Nestle Aland

The Authorized King James Version, Gods voice to the English Speaking World!

Jesus Christ Is The Lord!

Truth7t7

Greetings br. @truth7t7,

Thank you for your contribution, I was already aware of that.

I agree, the KJV is my Bible and I prefer it much more than the Nestle-Aland editions.

[dad2]

13 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

The final part of God's wrath is the 7th vial (The End) "The Day Of The Lord" (It Is Done)

 

Part is right. Just a part. And ALL the vials are wrath as well. 

 

^{Rev 15:1} And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth

[truth7t7]

Many would consider that statement as blasphemy

Isaiah 44:6KJV

6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

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[truth7t7]

2 hours ago, dad2 said:

Part is right. Just a part. And ALL the vials are wrath as well. 

 

^{Rev 15:1} And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth

Every word is right, if you believe it isn't then post your claim with supporting scripture, waiting

The final part of God's wrath is the 7th vial (The End) "The Day Of The Lord" (It Is Done)

Revelation 16:15-17KJV

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Edited May 23 by truth7t7

[dad2]

Just now, truth7t7 said:

Every word is right, if you believe it isn't then post your claim with supporting scripture, waiting

The final part of God's wrath is the 7th vial (The End) "The Day Of The Lord" (It Is Done)

Revelation 16:15-17KJV

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

All seven vials are wrath, the verse states. Of course the very last bit is the final final wrath bit

[Michael37]

2 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Many would consider that statement as blasphemy

 

Yes, I did, so I have deleted all sign of it and placed the offender in the Non-Conformist Group, finally.

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, dad2 said:

All seven vials are wrath, the verse states. Of course the very last bit is the final final wrath bit

Well please explain "the very last bit is the final final wrath bit", waiting?

Edited May 23 by truth7t7

[dad2]

On 5/22/2025 at 11:50 PM, truth7t7 said:

Well please explain "the very last bit is the final final wrath bit", waiting?

Did you miss the verse I posted?

Revelation 15:7

And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever

 

 Not just the 7th vial. And since all the wrath vials are the finish of wrath, it seems to indicate that it started before the vials as well

 

[truth7t7]

3 hours ago, dad2 said:

Did you miss the verse I posted?

Revelation 15:7

And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever

 

 Not just the 7th vial. And since all the wrath vials are the finish of wrath, it seems to indicate that it started before the vials as well

 

What happens "After" the very final final bit of wrath in the 7th vial?

A Millennial Kingdom On Earth?

The Final Judgement?

Please explain your belief on what takes place "After" the 7th vial?

Edited May 24 by truth7t7