Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[Locust]

9 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Jesus was the first born of the dead and the first to be resurrected,

ya may wonder how that could be as Jesus resurrected several people before he died and was resurrected .some would try to say its a contradiction. its not . 

[Locust]

On 4/22/2025 at 3:35 PM, truth7t7 said:

saiah Chapter 2 The Day Of The Lord (The End)

its not the end its a new beginning describing what happens after Armageddon .

[DeighAnn]

1  Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb. 2  And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed. 3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt. 4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I. 5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground. 6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.


Any one who has gotten past the first book of the Bible knows FIRE from God doesn't always consume in the way 'man' thinks.  The NATURAL man can not comprehend how such a thing is possible, it takes being born of the spirit to understand how such a miracle is possible.  

It takes a soul having been born of the Spirit to understand how fire and GODS control over it.  Anyone who has studied the old testament can see one of these ways in Daniel.  We must understand that Jesus spoke in parables for a reason.  It is not for all to understand.  

 

19  Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury, and the form of his visage was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego: therefore he spake, and commanded that they should heat the furnace one seven times more than it was wont to be heated. 20  And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace. 21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace. 22  Therefore because the king's commandment was urgent, and the furnace exceeding hot, the flame of the fire slew those men that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. 23 And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

24 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellers, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king. 25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God. 26Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, ye servants of the most high God, come forth, and come hither. Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, came forth of the midst of the fire. 27 And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king's counsellers, being gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.

No number of facts presented can make a the natural being understand what the heavenly being doesn't question.  Proof is found all around us every day of these facts.  Faith comes from hearing and hearing from the words of God.  We either take it on faith or not.  All we are to do is plant the seeds.  Whether or nor they grow is UP TO GOD, not us.  

kick the dust off and move on and quit giving place to theories and doctrines not found in GODS WORDS but found in the minds and wisdom of men only. 
 

[truth7t7]

7 hours ago, Locust said:

ya may wonder how that could be as Jesus resurrected several people before he died and was resurrected .some would try to say its a contradiction. its not . 

Your claim is false, Jesus was the first to be "Resurrected"

Lazarus, Tabitha, and those that came out of their Graves and entered the city were all "Raised From The Dead" they weren't "Resurrected" as Jesus himself was the "First"

Acts 26:23KJV

23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.

John 12:17KJV

17 The people therefore that was with him when he called Lazarus out of his grave, and raised him from the dead, bare record.

Edited Saturday at 05:33 AM by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

7 hours ago, Locust said:

its not the end its a new beginning describing what happens after Armageddon .

Isaiah 2:2-4 below represents the Eternal Kingdom in the New Heaven and Earth "After" the day of the Lord takes place

Isaiah 2:2-4KJV

2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Isaiah 2:12KJV

12 For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:

2 Peter 3:10KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

 

Edited Saturday at 05:43 AM by truth7t7

[DeighAnn]

Just making sure they don't get lost in the conversation...

Matt 19 
27  Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? 28  And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of His glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29  And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. 30  But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.

 

Luke 22

28  Ye are they which have continued with Me in my temptations. 29  And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as My Father hath appointed unto Me; 30  That ye may eat and drink at My table in My kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
 

1 Corinth 6

1  Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2  Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
 

Rev 3:21  
The [one] overcoming, I will give to him to sit with ME on the throne of ME,

AS I also overcame and sat down with the Father of Me on the throne of Him.  



Rev
26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth My works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: 27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. 28 And I will give him the morning star. 29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.


Rev 20
4  And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6  Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.



Not forever and certainly not before Christ returns and Satan is bound and the dead rise and the alive and remaining are changed...

[truth7t7]

2 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

Just making sure they don't get lost in the conversation...

Matt 19 
27  Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? 28  And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of His glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29  And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. 30  But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.

 

Luke 22

28  Ye are they which have continued with Me in my temptations. 29  And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as My Father hath appointed unto Me; 30  That ye may eat and drink at My table in My kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
 

1 Corinth 6

1  Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2  Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
 

Rev 3:21  
The [one] overcoming, I will give to him to sit with ME on the throne of ME,

AS I also overcame and sat down with the Father of Me on the throne of Him.  



Rev
26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth My works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: 27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. 28 And I will give him the morning star. 29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.


Rev 20
4  And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6  Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.



Not forever and certainly not before Christ returns and Satan is bound and the dead rise and the alive and remaining are changed...

Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

[Locust]

2 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

if someone was asking what happens to Sodom ?? then the answer would be correct 

[DeighAnn]

2 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

 AGAIN and AGAIN, NOT THE END as is being put forth, just the END of AN AGE....

the dead will rise and the alive and remaining will be changed.  

AKA NO END for anyone not UNTIL the GWTJ.  Not one soul will die (the end) before that Judgment takes place, and that JUDGMENT doesn't come until the END of the Lords Day which is 1000 years.  That day doesn't go away because not everyone believes it.  It is what is written, and it is what will happen.  1000 years is a day as a day is 1000 years...believe it or not.

so even though it is going to rain fire and brimstone from heaven and those destroying the earth will be destroyed (sent to the place of the dead), IT IS still NOT THE END.  The dead STILL have to RISE and any NHNE at that moment DOESN'T allow for all that must take place, such as

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment


SO even when THEY all DIE, they still LIVE ON don't they?  They have only suffered the FIRST DEATH, not yet the 2nd, have they?   But the FIRST death doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things, does it?  It is just a transfer out of one body and into the next, isn't it?   And everyone agrees, there is a RESURRECTION of the DEAD coming, don't they?  AND if there is NO LORDS DAY then none of that can take place, can it?   And if it didn't then the words of God would be null and void, wouldn't they?  


19  There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20  And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21  And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22  And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom:


the rich man also died, and was buried; 23  And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24  And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 

not the end, not 'soul' dead yet, not even risen yet, has never stood at the GWTJ...


The only way to have a point PROVED to be TRUTH is by removing the obstacles placed before it, not by repeating the same point over and over.  Until that can be done, it is all just another theory...

 

Edited yesterday at 12:57 AM by DeighAnn

[dad2]

On 3/6/2025 at 8:31 PM, Luther said:

Nowhere does God say He has two kingdoms, one for Christians and one for a future group of  people in a politically acquired state called Israel. No scripture like that exists. Anyone who believes that is following after a false doctrine. 

 

When all Israel gets saved in the end they enter the kingdom like us. He will give them the promised land then.