THE NEW KING JAMES

[JohnS]

Blood,

  The 1611 was the first completed translation as commissioned by King James.  There were other Bibles before the 1611 KJV.  The 1611 has undergone 5 revisions since 1611 the last in 1769.  Anyone who believes that the 1611 was God's perfect Bible needs to actually go see and read a 1611.  It is almost impossible to read...it has the Apocrypha and the catholic prayers for the dead...and has footnotes from the 1611 translators noting where the KJV text is not well supported by the Greek.  The translators themselves state that their goal was to produce a modern translation that could be read and understood by the people of the 1600s.  This is the same goal behind all the new translations.  Most KJV-onlyist do not want to discuss all the problems with KJV and its many revisions.  But they delight in mocking all the translations since 1611.  Again, of focus must be on the Greek manuscripts that are the basis of all translations...including the beloved KJV.

- Steve

PS Martyr, you are right the NASB is the most accurate translation from the Greek.  It reads like a Greek interlinear Bible.  It is as close to a word for word as you will get....even more true to the Greek than the KJV.  But it is also sometimes choppy and difficult to just sit and read for pleasure.  The ESV is accurate but IMHO much more readible and enjoyable.

Dr Steve, I bought a brand new, leather bound, burgandy, ESV today and I absolutely love it. It's very readable but still has the beautiful prose. Love it Love it Love it!!!

Thanks for touting it so much that it got my attention!

*I just love it!*

Ditto Steve!

I also got one yesterday! It came with some good software so I can read it side by side with the KJV and translation notes on my computer. I also downloaded a copy of The Message from E-Sword. Here's a familiar passage:

Phi 2:1 If you've gotten anything at all out of following Christ, if his love has made any difference in your life, if being in a community of the Spirit means anything to you, if you have a heart, if you care--

Phi 2:2 then do me a favor: Agree with each other, love each other, be deep-spirited friends.

Phi 2:3 Don't push your way to the front; don't sweet-talk your way to the top. Put yourself aside, and help others get ahead.

Phi 2:4 Don't be obsessed with getting your own advantage. Forget yourselves long enough to lend a helping hand.

Phi 2:5 Think of yourselves the way Christ Jesus thought of himself.

Phi 2:6 He had equal status with God but didn't think so much of himself that he had to cling to the advantages of that status no matter what.

Phi 2:7 Not at all. When the time came, he set aside the privileges of deity and took on the status of a slave, became human!

Phi 2:8 Having become human, he stayed human. It was an incredibly humbling process. He didn't claim special privileges. Instead, he lived a selfless, obedient life and then died a selfless, obedient death--and the worst kind of death at that: a crucifixion.

Phi 2:9 Because of that obedience, God lifted him high and honored him far beyond anyone or anything, ever,

Phi 2:10 so that all created beings in heaven and on earth--even those long ago dead and buried--will bow in worship before this Jesus Christ,

Phi 2:11 and call out in praise that he is the Master of all, to the glorious honor of God the Father.

Any comments?

[Guest shadow2b]

Hey, all. It's been awhile since my last access. Kinda busy lately.

I'll have to throw my support behind the KJV here. The RV and AV are based on newer found "older" manuscipts, and many verses seem to be "updated" but for all the good that might do, these newer versions seem to change or omit many other verses that are not even affected by "newly discovered" manuscipts.

The NIV was a disgrace which included such esteemed scholars as a lesbian "bishop". This lady watered down the Lord's direction and teachings toward homosexuality. Many other "lifestyle" issues seemed to get the same treatment as well (i.e., prostitution).

I would be all for a new translation that updated the KJV, if that was the result, but new translations seem to go beyond the simple updates, they reach into a realm of ridiculous apostacy in order to sell more copies.

I believe that time will tell, though. Of the many versions that have been published over the past 1,500 yrs or so, one seems to stand the test of time. Is there something to this?

I'm not so much "KJV only", as I am more "KJV inclined".

Just remember that the devil is more subtle than any other being.

In Christ,

t.

I agree most wholeheartedly BROTHER----thank you for that little distinction between "KJVonly" & "KJV inclined" i kind-a- like that,it's NOT quite so dogmatic BUT is most truthful---I do have several "others" but trust the KJV a lot more----I will be praying for your safety while in afghanistan & your "SAFE" return to ALL of your "Family" & US as well.....WE need you back to help teach the gospel....

I personally THANK YOU FOR "DEFENDING" THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA &

MY OWN PERSONAL RIGHTS & FREEDOMS------GOD-BLESS-YOU-BROTHER-TED-&-RETURN-YOU-SAFELY-

HOME-TO-ALL-OF-US-----------YOUR-BROTHER-IN-THE-LORD-----Gary---

[Crusader4Christ]

Oh. Ted's in the military? My goodness. I shall pray that He does make it

safely from Afghanistan.