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19 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

Interesting how Scripture says otherwise as has been quoted plainly... and you ignore it...  even when God instructs us we can't

The only reason I am not ignoring you is that it is not allowed.

You choose to speak for God here?

God instructs us that we can know Him now, in this Age.

You think you are going to forget those experiences?

John 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 


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2 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

The only reason I am not ignoring you is that it is not allowed.

You choose to speak for God here?

God instructs us that we can know Him now, in this Age.

You think you are going to forget those experiences?

John 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 

The ignoring part is not true since the site does allow people to be placed on ignore by the individual...  I usually ignore when both points have been given and then only repeated rhetoric... what benefit is that...

I am here to discuss Scriptural truth that is all I am concerned with in this life...
 

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You choose to speak for God here?

I choose to glean what the Word, Itself, is saying... for that is God speaking to us all!

 

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God instructs us that we can know Him now, in this Age.

I have already quoted the Scripture that states it is incomplete and you quoted what will be done with that

1 Corinthians 13:10 (KJV)

[10] But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

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You think you are going to forget those experiences?

It is stated by Scripture... and that always settles the questions I have on anything... When Scripture clearly and pin pointedly speak to a subject that becomes my thinking always...


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"Truth Is Known By Experience,

Quoting Scripture w/o is to

Testify Against Yourself"

For yet another example,

Someone claims "I am a born-again,

Spirit filled Christian."

If he is found unworthy of such a claim,

and is only stating by rote something

taught or read about as a part of a 

religious orientation, then the testimony

in contrary to Truth. There are clearly

stated 'experiences' by which we are assured.

Experiences such as this:

Colossians Two:

2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;

3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

Hebrews Six:

9-12 But, beloved, we are confident of better things concerning you, yes, things that accompany salvation, though we speak in this manner. For God is not unjust to forget your work and labor of love which you have shown toward His name, in that you have ministered to the saints, and do minister. 11 And we desire that each one of you show the same diligence to the full assurance of hope until the end, that you do not become sluggish, but imitate those who through faith and patience inherit the promises.


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7 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

I have already quoted the Scripture that states it is incomplete and you quoted what will be done with that

1 Corinthians 13:10 (KJV)

[10] But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

What is that which is in part?  

But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part.

Love never fails. It is this perfection we seek in this life "as an experience", that will not be taken away.

First John Two:

4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 

5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.

First John Four:

10-13 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us

13 By this we know that we abide in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit. 

Luke Ten:

42 But one thing is needed, and Mary has chosen that good part, which will not be taken away from her.”


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7 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

What is that which is in part?  

knowledge for one

1 Corinthians 2:9 (KJV)

[9] But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

1 Corinthians 8:2 (KJV)

[2] And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.

Righteousness another

Romans 3:10 (KJV)

[10] As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

1 John 1:8 (KJV)

[8] If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

[9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

[10] If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

 

 


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23 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

The ignoring part is not true since the site does allow people to be placed on ignore by the individual...  I usually ignore when both points have been given and then only repeated rhetoric... what benefit is that...

Not if you are oversight.

24 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

I am here to discuss Scriptural truth that is all I am concerned with in this life...

Was there none in the OP? Could you double check?

 

25 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

I have already quoted the Scripture that states it is incomplete and you quoted what will be done with that

1 Corinthians 13:10 (KJV)

[10] But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

Again, what does he say in "in part"? Everything but Love.

 

26 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

It is stated by Scripture... and that always settles the questions I have on anything... When Scripture clearly and pin pointedly speak to a subject that becomes my thinking always...

Every scripture that you cited concerning what will be "remembered no more" pertains to the cares and burdens of this life. Not the life in Christ. These are perpetual memories. You remain implacably in error.

You statement insinuates that what I have posted was not supported by scripture. Of course, there was practically nothing but scripture in the OP#1. You reserved the right to ignore the OP and share whatever came to mind, from what? The Title of the thread? You have not addressed it at all. That in spite of every effort to elaborate. What is difficult about this?

31 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

"Truth Is Known By Experience,

Quoting Scripture w/o is to

Testify Against Yourself"

For yet another example,

Someone claims "I am a born-again,

Spirit filled Christian."

If he is found unworthy of such a claim,

and is only stating by rote something

taught or read about as a part of a 

religious orientation, then the testimony

in contrary to Truth. There are clearly

stated 'experiences' by which we are assured.

This statement posted above includes more scriptures concerned with Christian experiences, beyond belief. If I have no recollection of this conversation, I will not be surprised. Edification is the normal standard.


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22 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

You statement insinuates that what I have posted was not supported by scripture.

You say somethings from here will be remembered... Bible says no.. this is the dispute and we must agree to disagree... thanks for the discourse...

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5 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

You say somethings from here will be remembered... Bible says no.. this is the dispute and we must agree to disagree... thanks for the discourse...

To be clear, not "somethings", TRUTH.

John Sixteen:

13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. 

14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.

Alas, only to be forgotten...your truth not mine.

Or is that to be disputed also?

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