Jump to content

Recommended Posts


  • Group:  Advanced Member
  • Followers:  1
  • Topic Count:  151
  • Topics Per Day:  0.02
  • Content Count:  359
  • Content Per Day:  0.05
  • Reputation:   1
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  02/17/2005
  • Status:  Offline
  • Birthday:  01/05/1946

Posted

Charles Spurgeon wrote ...from my very soul, I detest everything that in the least savours of the Antinomianism which leads people to prate about being secure in Christ while they are living in sin.

We cannot be saved by or for our good works, neither can we be saved (without) good works.

Christ never will save any of His people (in) their sins; he saves His people (from) their sins.

The quote on Charles Spurgeon was taken from the book: The Gospel According to Jesus, by John F. MacArthur, Jr. Page 266

My question is: If you are in the act of sinning and you die --Are you saved? :emot-pray:

Snow4JC


  • Group:  Diamond Member
  • Followers:  0
  • Topic Count:  2
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  1,447
  • Content Per Day:  0.20
  • Reputation:   45
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  12/26/2005
  • Status:  Offline

Posted

"The quote on Charles Spurgeon was taken from the book: The Gospel According to Jesus, by John F. MacArthur, Jr. Page 266"

I have read some of Spurgeon and don't think that his statement means what your question implies although I would have to read it in context. Spurgeon does not believe in perfectionism and as a Reformed pastor had a grasp of original sin. The tension between sin and confession that defines the life of the believer doesn't mean that we continually move from the state of saved to the state of unsaved depending on if we are in the act of sinning or not. In other words, I don't think he meant that faith is negated if we die in the midst of a sinful act unless that act was rejecting Christ.


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  0
  • Topic Count:  112
  • Topics Per Day:  0.01
  • Content Count:  3,489
  • Content Per Day:  0.46
  • Reputation:   13
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  07/28/2004
  • Status:  Offline

Posted

Salvation never has been and never will be dependent upon anything we do.


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  1
  • Topic Count:  73
  • Topics Per Day:  0.01
  • Content Count:  3,663
  • Content Per Day:  0.50
  • Reputation:   5
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  03/20/2005
  • Status:  Offline

Posted
Salvation never has been and never will be dependent upon anything we do.

Matthew 25:31-46

Guest jlr1701
Posted

Faith without works is dead. Our lives should reflect our faith.


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  0
  • Topic Count:  112
  • Topics Per Day:  0.01
  • Content Count:  3,489
  • Content Per Day:  0.46
  • Reputation:   13
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  07/28/2004
  • Status:  Offline

Posted

Salvation is evidenced in what we do, not dependent upon it. Big difference :)


  • Group:  Graduated to Heaven
  • Followers:  2
  • Topic Count:  50
  • Topics Per Day:  0.01
  • Content Count:  4,073
  • Content Per Day:  0.49
  • Reputation:   43
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  10/02/2002
  • Status:  Offline
  • Birthday:  08/10/1923

Posted
Faith without works is dead. Our lives should reflect our faith.

So what you are saying that if our lives do not reflect our faith we are damned.?

eric.

Guest jlr1701
Posted

Faith without works is dead. Our lives should reflect our faith.

So what you are saying that if our lives do not reflect our faith we are damned.?

eric.

No, of course not. What I am saying is that our lives should reflect our faith. If we are saved, our lives should show it.

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. (Ephesians 2:8-10)


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  0
  • Topic Count:  112
  • Topics Per Day:  0.01
  • Content Count:  3,489
  • Content Per Day:  0.46
  • Reputation:   13
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  07/28/2004
  • Status:  Offline

Posted

Faith without works is dead. Our lives should reflect our faith.

So what you are saying that if our lives do not reflect our faith we are damned.?

eric.

No, of course not. What I am saying is that our lives should reflect our faith. If we are saved, our lives should show it.

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. (Ephesians 2:8-10)

Yes, but how does that pertain to the topic?


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  1
  • Topic Count:  331
  • Topics Per Day:  0.04
  • Content Count:  8,713
  • Content Per Day:  1.14
  • Reputation:   21
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  07/28/2004
  • Status:  Offline

Posted

Salvation never has been and never will be dependent upon anything we do.

Matthew 25:31-46

Romans 3:27, Romans 4:2, Romans 11:6, Galatians 2:16? Galatians 3:10, Ephesians 2:8-9, 2 Timothy 1:9, Titus 3:5

Salvation isn't dependant upon what we do. Works are merely evidence of what is already there.

As for sinning whilst dying, if we die in the moment we sin and this condemns us to hell, what was the purpose of Christ dying?

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Our picks

    • You are coming up higher in this season – above the assignments of character assassination and verbal arrows sent to manage you, contain you, and derail your purpose. Where you have had your dreams and sleep robbed, as well as your peace and clarity robbed – leaving you feeling foggy, confused, and heavy – God is, right now, bringing freedom back -- now you will clearly see the smoke and mirrors that were set to distract you and you will disengage.

      Right now God is declaring a "no access zone" around you, and your enemies will no longer have any entry point into your life. Oil is being poured over you to restore the years that the locust ate and give you back your passion. This is where you will feel a fresh roar begin to erupt from your inner being, and a call to leave the trenches behind and begin your odyssey in your Christ calling moving you to bear fruit that remains as you minister to and disciple others into their Christ identity.

      This is where you leave the trenches and scale the mountain to fight from a different place, from victory, from peace, and from rest. Now watch as God leads you up higher above all the noise, above all the chaos, and shows you where you have been seated all along with Him in heavenly places where you are UNTOUCHABLE. This is where you leave the soul fight, and the mind battle, and learn to fight differently.

      You will know how to live like an eagle and lead others to the same place of safety and protection that God led you to, which broke you out of the silent prison you were in. Put your war boots on and get ready to fight back! Refuse to lay down -- get out of bed and rebuke what is coming at you. Remember where you are seated and live from that place.

      Acts 1:8 - “But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses … to the end of the earth.”

       

      ALBERT FINCH MINISTRY
        • Thanks
        • This is Worthy
        • Thumbs Up
      • 3 replies
    • George Whitten, the visionary behind Worthy Ministries and Worthy News, explores the timing of the Simchat Torah War in Israel. Is this a water-breaking moment? Does the timing of the conflict on October 7 with Hamas signify something more significant on the horizon?

       



      This was a message delivered at Eitz Chaim Congregation in Dallas Texas on February 3, 2024.

      To sign up for our Worthy Brief -- https://worthybrief.com

      Be sure to keep up to date with world events from a Christian perspective by visiting Worthy News -- https://www.worthynews.com

      Visit our live blogging channel on Telegram -- https://t.me/worthywatch
      • 0 replies
    • Understanding the Enemy!

      I thought I write about the flip side of a topic, and how to recognize the attempts of the enemy to destroy lives and how you can walk in His victory!

      For the Apostle Paul taught us not to be ignorant of enemy's tactics and strategies.

      2 Corinthians 2:112  Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices. 

      So often, we can learn lessons by learning and playing "devil's" advocate.  When we read this passage,

      Mar 3:26  And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end. 
      Mar 3:27  No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strongman; and then he will spoil his house. 

      Here we learn a lesson that in order to plunder one's house you must first BIND up the strongman.  While we realize in this particular passage this is referring to God binding up the strongman (Satan) and this is how Satan's house is plundered.  But if you carefully analyze the enemy -- you realize that he uses the same tactics on us!  Your house cannot be plundered -- unless you are first bound.   And then Satan can plunder your house!

      ... read more
        • Oy Vey!
        • Praise God!
        • Thanks
        • Well Said!
        • Brilliant!
        • Loved it!
        • This is Worthy
        • Thumbs Up
      • 230 replies
    • Daniel: Pictures of the Resurrection, Part 3

      Shalom everyone,

      As we continue this study, I'll be focusing on Daniel and his picture of the resurrection and its connection with Yeshua (Jesus). 

      ... read more
        • Praise God!
        • Brilliant!
        • Loved it!
        • This is Worthy
        • Thumbs Up
      • 13 replies
    • Abraham and Issac: Pictures of the Resurrection, Part 2
      Shalom everyone,

      As we continue this series the next obvious sign of the resurrection in the Old Testament is the sign of Isaac and Abraham.

      Gen 22:1  After these things God tested Abraham and said to him, "Abraham!" And he said, "Here I am."
      Gen 22:2  He said, "Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you."

      So God "tests" Abraham and as a perfect picture of the coming sacrifice of God's only begotten Son (Yeshua - Jesus) God instructs Issac to go and sacrifice his son, Issac.  Where does he say to offer him?  On Moriah -- the exact location of the Temple Mount.

      ...read more
        • Well Said!
        • This is Worthy
        • Thumbs Up
      • 20 replies
×
×
  • Create New...