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Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!

Dueteronomy 6:4 NASB

So when the text says that God is one, does that preclude a unity of personalities within that unity. Jesus said we are to be "one" with God and each other, but that does not preclude us being individual persons

I guess if that is what you want to say!

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That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun That there is no one besides Me. I am the LORD, and there is no other,

Isaiah 45:6 NASB

All this passage asserts is that besides the God of Israel, there are no other Gods. It does not address the nature of that one true God, or deny that there could be multiple persons united under a single God-head


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Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!

Dueteronomy 6:4 NASB

So when the text says that God is one, does that preclude a unity of personalities within that unity. Jesus said we are to be "one" with God and each other, but that does not preclude us being individual persons

I guess if that is what you want to say!

Well, where in there do you see it denying that a plurality exists, and how do you explain Jesus command for us to be one and yet retain our individual personalities?


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That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun That there is no one besides Me. I am the LORD, and there is no other,

Isaiah 45:6 NASB

All this passage asserts is that besides the God of Israel, there are no other Gods. It does not address the nature of that one true God, or deny that there could be multiple persons united under a single God-head

I see your version of the Bible giving "none beside me" a new meaning by saying "no one besides Me." Still Me is very much a singular pronoun and not "Us". If Jesus and the Holy Spirit are with God the Father then why doesn't He just say us?


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Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!

Dueteronomy 6:4 NASB

So when the text says that God is one, does that preclude a unity of personalities within that unity. Jesus said we are to be "one" with God and each other, but that does not preclude us being individual persons

I guess if that is what you want to say!

Well, where in there do you see it denying that a plurality exists, and how do you explain Jesus command for us to be one and yet retain our individual personalities?

Because to a people that were worshipping polytheistically at the time, He wanted them to know that HE was the only God they were to worship. Thus He is one. God had every opportunity to tell His people right then and there that there were two other persons with Him, but He doesn't because of what I have shown in the past. Mainly that Jesus is God manifest in flesh and God is both Holy and a Spirit and thus is the Holy Spirit. Different roles of God, not persons.


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Do you even realize that the Jews believe the Shema (Deuteronomy 6:4) is one of their most sacred verses and they don't believe that there are three persons in one God?


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They don't???? :blink:


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Do you even realize that the Jews believe the Shema (Deuteronomy 6:4) is one of their most sacred verses and they don't believe that there are three persons in one God?

The Jews also don't believe Jesus is their Messiah. They might have missed some things. In fact that is the reason they rejected Jesus was His claims to be on an equal par with the Father: Their misunderstanding of the Shema and its implications forced them to reject the idea that Jesus could be God


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:):blink::):taped::cool::cool::huh::24::):o;) How do you present the Gospel to people who don't believe in:

1. Jesus as the Messiah

2. THe Trinity? :)


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Do you even realize that the Jews believe the Shema (Deuteronomy 6:4) is one of their most sacred verses and they don't believe that there are three persons in one God?

The Jews also don't believe Jesus is their Messiah. They might have missed some things. In fact that is the reason they rejected Jesus was His claims to be on an equal par with the Father: Their misunderstanding of the Shema and its implications forced them to reject the idea that Jesus could be God

Who wrote this verse of scripture? They didn't understand what they were writing?

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