The Remnant of Jacob

[OneAccord]

Okay, I keep running into this Remnant of Jacob, and I used to think I understood what they were, but now I'm cross-examining.

What is the difference between the remnant of Israel and all of Israel?

I had been under the impression that the remnant was the chiildren of Israel that recieve Jesus Christ as their saviour before the Tribulation comes, essentially from the time of His first coming throughout the church age or times of the gentiles.

In some of the prophetic books I'm reading now, it seems they are those who survived captivity? Then there are also references to 'those who escape', that seem to mean those who survive Tribulation possibly being the remnant?

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[Dad Ernie]

Greetings OneAccord,

In the OT, we find that the "remnant of Jacob", are the ones that have been regathered to their "promised land" as opposed to those scattered in the world, away from the "Land of Promise" - Israel. These are those in the "great diaspora".

In the NT we see the "remnant of Jacob" as those who retain citizenship in the "Kingdom of God", EVEN as IT (the Kingdom of God) was taken from Israel and given to the "peoples" that would produce fruit in it - i.e. the gentiles.

So the OT (remnant) is a TYPE, and the NT (remnant) is the ANTITYPE.

All 12 tribes are accounted for in the NT:

Acts 26:7 Unto which promise our twelve tribes, instantly serving God day and night, hope to come. For which hope's sake, king Agrippa, I am accused of the Jews.

James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

The twelve tribes that are the REMNANT, of which Paul was one, as well as all the disciples, moved with the Kingdom of God as it became dispersed among all the nations of the world. Romans 9-11 is all about ALL of the Jews that will accept Christ at their "fulfillment" that is brought back into the Kingdom of God. It is not speaking of the "land of Israel" and their return to it.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[OneAccord]

So Dad Ernie, are you saying that the NT 'remnant of Israel' are the Jews that believe in Jesus, and 'all of Israel' are the rest of the Jews (the unbelieving ones) who will be restored into the kingdom of God in the latter days?

I could 'spiritualize' this to say that the OT 'remnant' are those that escaped or survived captivity, both Israel's captivity and later Judah's captivity into Bablyon. This image being a type for today when the unbelieving Jews are essentially held in captivity in throughout the world in the diaspora, and that the believing remnant has already been delivered from this captivity through faith in the Lord.

Am I confusing things here or is this a decent understanding?

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings OneAccord,

Am I confusing things here or is this a decent understanding?

I think you said it well.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Mrs Mac]

Rom 9:27 Isaiah also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:

Rom 9:28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.

Rom 9:29 And as Isaiah said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodom, and been made like unto Gomorrah.

Could the remnant referred to here, mean those who will come out of the Tribulation as in Mark 13:20?

Mar 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings Mrs. Mac,

This is referring to the Lord's FIRST advent:

Rom 9:27-29 Isaiah also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: 28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth. 29 And as Isaiah said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodom, and been made like unto Gomorrah.

This is referring to the Lord's SECOND advent:

Mar 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Mrs Mac]

Thank you, Dad Ernie.

The remnant that is saved must be the believing ones who go into the Millenium after His coming. The remnant cannot be identified now, as far as I can tell.

The remnant of Israel can't be the ones who believe in Jesus now because that makes them the church where we are all one in Christ. (Or should be )

[OneAccord]

Good point, Mrs Mac, and that is the essence of my question.

Does the idea of a remnant being saved imply that not all Jews will be saved?

Paul says that ALL of Israel will be saved, yet he also says that not all of Israel is Israel.

Are there branches that are cut off that will never be restored?

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