News: The Ports Deal Is All Politics

[apothanein kerdos]

Agreeing with Bush does not make us idolaters following a false messiah.

Your statement was totally over board.

NOBODY worships Bush or thinks he is Christ.

Actions speak louder than words. When people continue to stick up for his blatant mistakes, they show so much loyalty it's disgusting.

[Giaour]

That is your opinion.

A high minded opinion, but still an opinion.

Do you practice humility and humbleness?

[apothanein kerdos]

That is your opinion.

A high minded opinion, but still an opinion.

Do you practice humility and humbleness?

There is no opinion involved here, it is fact. People often hold mutually exclusive views in the world. On one hand, they'll support Israel tooth and nail....but support the president when he advocates taking land from them. They hate the war on terror, say that Islam is violent and we shouldn't trust Muslims....until the president wants them to take over our ports. They could care less how we look to the world if it's for our own protection....until Bush says this port deal makes us look good in the eyes of the world...then it's okay. The thing is, they hold mutually exclusive positions. This means that they support the president over their own conviction, which is a form of worship. It's supporting him to the point that you allow him to dictate what is right and wrong for you. It's supporting him to the point where you alienate your brain from the process of politics. It's not an opinion, it's a fact backed by the observation these people are contradicting themselves. Democrats do it too with people in their own party where they object to something until their favourite politician says the opposite...then all of a sudden it's okay.

[Marnie]

With reagrd to Dubai and the terrorists, half of the 9/11 terrorists came from Virginia. So what do we do there? Stop doing business with the Commonwealth of VA? These guys also had bank accounts in VA. Does that make VA untrustworthy?

Dubai is NOT anti Israel. The will not acknowdedge the government of Israel until Israel acknowledges Palestine's right to exist.

This is NOT a Democrat bashing thread; its not my fault they are wrong most of the time.

And...it could be Hillary's fault...

[branchesofHim]

And...it could be Hillary's fault...

Seriously ... she's part of it in the grand scheme I'll assure you.

Peace.

[Marnie]

This thread is nothing more than Democrat bashing, I'm suprized Marnie didn't claim it's all Hillary's fault.

Look, the money-men in Washington hustled this deal through and tried to keep it under the radar and once again this administration made bad choices. It's happening so frequently now that comedians can't keep up.

This deal was first reported by the Wall Street Journal in October '05. Thats hardly "rushing it through." It wasn't until the Dems got worried about their union allies that they raised the issue. The media did their usual bad reporting and fear took over common sense.

The President came out swinging without any information, threatening to use his first veto on a subject he should have known would raise public interest so he lied (well, it's either a lie to us or he was lied to by his admin, either way it doesn't make him look like he's "in the know") when he said it had gone through a thorough vetting process and it hadn't.

There is a Congressional Oversight Committee that exists for that very reason: so the president doesn't have to micro manage every international business deal. Reagan signed it into law back in the '80's and Clinto expanded it's powers in the early '90's. Point is, Bush didn't have to know. The Committee was doing its job.

Bush is more concerned with keeping his Arab family friends happy than protecting our country. Democrats knew this all along which is why we've been scoffing at his fear tactics since 9/11.

Our country is LESS secure than it was before 9/11 because of Iraq.

And you have been attacked exactly how many times? Every military strategist will tell you it is better to confront the enemy on their soil than on ours.

We can't use force in Iran, #1 because our military is overwhelmed in Iraq, #2 even if wanted to put boots on the ground in Iran recruitment is too low (because of Iraq), #3 the Iranians have an active insight into how to foil a ground war by watching (and supporting) the insurgency and #4 we can't simply bomb them because it would give rise to an ENTIRE country of terrorists and incite the worlds muslims to acts of violence against the USA and our allies.

And why are you a citizen of this country?? First of all, our military is NOT overwhelmed. Secondly, how do you know our "boots" are not on the ground in Iran? I happen to know otherwise. Recruitment is NOT too low. That is another bad example of biased media reporting. Iran happens to like Americans, their government does not. There is a difference, you know. Muslim extremists are already incited against us, are you kidding?

The ports deal IS all politics, it's another example of bad politics by this administration.

Wrong again. The Ports deal is all business, not politics. The Democrats--with no issue to run on in the fall (mid term elections)--have made it a political issue. Dubai World Ports is a business. It is not a government entity nor a religious one. You won't find anybody on the WB more leary of Muslims or Arabs than I. But even I, when I did a little research, concluded this deal is harmless. What has made you all so fearful? Google the deal and get the facts.

Edited March 8, 2006 by Matthitjah

[Marnie]

And...it could be Hillary's fault...

Seriously ... she's part of it in the grand scheme I'll assure you.

Peace.

HA HA, I knew it!! And I heard the Masons are funding it. And the Skull and Cross Bones Society as well.

[apothanein kerdos]

With reagrd to Dubai and the terrorists, half of the 9/11 terrorists came from Virginia. So what do we do there? Stop doing business with the Commonwealth of VA? These guys also had bank accounts in VA. Does that make VA untrustworthy?

Dubai is NOT anti Israel. The will not acknowdedge the government of Israel until Israel acknowledges Palestine's right to exist.

This is NOT a Democrat bashing thread; its not my fault they are wrong most of the time.

And...it could be Hillary's fault...

That is Anti-Israel. They don't acknowledge the Israeli government for goodness' sakes!

Does everyone see what I mean now? Marnie is an Israeli supporter, I have no doubt in that. Yet here she is saying, "No, they just don't recognize Israel because Israel doesn't recognize Palestine's right." Once again, Bush goes before Beliefs.

[Gerioke]

With reagrd to Dubai and the terrorists, half of the 9/11 terrorists came from Virginia. So what do we do there? Stop doing business with the Commonwealth of VA? These guys also had bank accounts in VA. Does that make VA untrustworthy?

Dubai is NOT anti Israel. The will not acknowdedge the government of Israel until Israel acknowledges Palestine's right to exist.

This is NOT a Democrat bashing thread; its not my fault they are wrong most of the time.

And...it could be Hillary's fault...

That is Anti-Israel. They don't acknowledge the Israeli government for goodness' sakes!

Does everyone see what I mean now? Marnie is an Israeli supporter, I have no doubt in that. Yet here she is saying, "No, they just don't recognize Israel because Israel doesn't recognize Palestine's right." Once again, Bush goes before Beliefs.

I hear you

[Marnie]

So let's see. You are saying that because the government of a nation believes one thing, citizens of the same nation have to believe it? So you believe every position the Federal government takes on every issue? Just because the gov't of Dubai has issues with Israel does not mean you have to punish businesses of that country.

It might surprise you to know, furthermore, that I think it is high time we lifted the Cuban embargo, too. Yes, I am patriotic and I like GWB, but that in no way means I agree every position his gov't takes. Business is what it is.

But I do thank you for getting my name right. You'd be surprised how many people think I am a Marine. Oy.