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[deafcanada]

These "prophesies" are hardly anything new.

Revelations and other books in the Bible clearly state what is going to happen.

Why do we need modern day "prophets" when everything we need to know is already wriiten down in the word of God?

hey, you said why do we need modern day "prophets" when everything we need to know is already written down in the word of God?

I do believe that God is using modern prophets as God wants us to spread His words and warn them because they dont read any thing from the Bible and dont care anything what the Bible says so so that s why God is using those people to spread this words and be able to wake them up and realize that it is soon and it is time to accept Jesus Christ as their personal saviour. if God not use anyone of these days , how can they know about Jesus Christ and how can they realize without the modern day prophets. that s why in the bible say God will pour his power spirit on people on the last days so that why God has plans for us for spreading the Words and He has great desires to see many many many people to be saved and want bring them home safely and He dont want see them go to Hell with Satan at all. that s why God is using the modern day prophets

In Him

DeafCanada

[gypc]

These "prophesies" are hardly anything new.

Revelations and other books in the Bible clearly state what is going to happen.

Why do we need modern day "prophets" when everything we need to know is already wriiten down in the word of God?

Acts 2:16But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

19And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

20The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:

21And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

[deafcanada]

These "prophesies" are hardly anything new.

Revelations and other books in the Bible clearly state what is going to happen.

Why do we need modern day "prophets" when everything we need to know is already wriiten down in the word of God?

Acts 2:16But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

19And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

20The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:

21And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Amen to that

we needed to hear that because God is using them for his glorify and bring many many people to the salvation of Jesus christ

and we need to wake up sleepy christians too

In him

Deaf Canada

[Giaour]

Read my post again.

I did not say that there were not modern day prophets.

I said WHY do we need them when God has already told us the future.

To the people who do not read the Bible,We can tell them what the Bible says.

The unbelievers do not have discernment and can't tell prophesy from false prophesy.

They are too easily misled.

I think we should tell them only written prophesy from the Bible where they can know for sure it is true.

You can't trust every person but you CAN trust in the Word.

[Giaour]

Look at all the people who were misled by so called prophets.

The purple sneaker people waiting for a space ship.

Branch dividians.

kool aid drinkers from jim jones

sda's

magic stones

The list goes on and on.

There is no confusion in the Bible.

These people would be saved today if they only trusted in the Word and not prophets.

[Christ's Free Servant]

Read my post again.

I did not say that there were not modern day prophets.

I said WHY do we need them when God has already told us the future.

To the people who do not read the Bible,We can tell them what the Bible says.

The unbelievers do not have discernment and can't tell prophesy from false prophesy.

They are too easily misled.

I think we should tell them only written prophesy from the Bible where they can know for sure it is true.

You can't trust every person but you CAN trust in the Word.

Giaour,

God said that people would prophesy, dream dreams and see visions in the last days, so he must have a reason for it. He said that we will know the nearness of his return by the "signs." Perhaps these are some of the signs God is giving us to show us that his coming is near.

He always, throughout Biblical history, sent watchmen on ahead of his judgments to warn of the judgments. If you talk to most people, they don't think God is going to judge the Church. They believe judgment is reserved only for the final judgment and that the Church will be raptured out and won't have to suffer. So, I think God is giving lots of dreams, visions, etc. to warn people that a judgment is coming on the church in the forms of both war and natural disasters. Most people, even most believers do not really believe that this is going to happen to them. They believe (people in the USA) that God is going to rapture the Church out before anything gets bad, so they see no reason to even consider the possibility that this is coming.

And, this is not a small thing. This is going to be the worst disaster this nation has ever gone through to the point to where America as we once knew it will no longer exist. Most people do not believe that is going to happen. Most people are just going along in their merry lives thinking they have the rest of their lives in front of them. God has been calling people to repent, and I mean he is calling Christians or professing Christians out of their complacency, out of their lukewarmness, out of their "idol" worship, because I don't believe those who have had the message and have known the truth and yet who refuse to listen to God's warnings to repent are going to survive this disaster.

Now, to some that means they just get to go to heaven early, but what if they are among those who God says "I never knew you!" I think that is the purpose for the warnings, because most people who know the word and believe what it says intellectually do not really believe that God is going to judge the Church and that there is a chance that God may say "I never knew you." He wants people to understand that the letters to the seven churches means us today and that when he says he will "spit us out of his mouth," he means it and when he says he will remove the church's lampstand, he means it. He wants the church and its leaders to honor him as God, but so many are just following the teachings of man. He wants us, as individuals, to understand that faith=obedience; that is just not a set of words that were said at an altar. So many of today's churches are teaching repentance and obedience are not needed for salvation and they are giving people the false idea of a hope in heaven. So, God is warning people to repent, because if they are depending upon a prayer at an altar to save them, I think they are in for a big surprise. God is a jealous God and he wants us for himself.

I also believe God wants to prepare us for what is coming after the judgment and that is a great harvest of souls, so he wants us to be ready to listen to his voice and to hear his assignments for us when this happens. I fully expect that God will give me a specific assignment when that time comes. He has to prepare us, otherwise people, even Christians, are going to be devastated and will not know that the reason for this is God is judging his church to purify her for his return.

[gypc]

Look at all the people who were misled by so called prophets.

The purple sneaker people waiting for a space ship.

Branch dividians.

kool aid drinkers from jim jones

sda's

magic stones

The list goes on and on.

There is no confusion in the Bible.

These people would be saved today if they only trusted in the Word and not prophets.

This is so true, that's why we need to know the word and make sure all prophecy is tested by the word.

1 Thess 5:20Despise not prophesyings.

21Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

Also Jesus warned us of false prophets..Mat 7: 15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

.......and warned us not to be deceived in Mat 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21.

In his love,

Brian

[Giaour]

If prophesy is for the unbelievers then how are they going to test it by the Word?

They don't believe in the Word so why would they "look it up" and compare it to the Bible?

I think if a person tells a prophesy to an unbeliever, they should point to scripture and say "see! This will happen because God has foretold it"

[gypc]

Prophecy is not only for the unbeliever but for all.............and if God doesn't open their ears, they won't hear it anyway.

Jesus said his sheep will hear his voice. If you had a child and that child was walking toward a road full of traffic, you would speak and tell that child to stop. Many who say and believe they are saved are headed for a busy road and God will speak to them.

No where in the Bible does it say that prophecy is exclusive for the unbeliever.

[felix]

If prophesy is for the unbelievers then how are they going to test it by the Word?

They don't believe in the Word so why would they "look it up" and compare it to the Bible?

I think if a person tells a prophesy to an unbeliever, they should point to scripture and say "see! This will happen because God has foretold it"

That's all wrong...prophesy is NOT primarily for the unbeliever.

1 Corinthians 14:22

Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers.

I do not think unbelievers can receive a personal word of prophecy. Prophecy is primarily for the Church.

It seems people are confused about the purpose of prophecy. Many people say, "The bible already tells us everything so why do we need man to tell us what will happen?".

Since the bible does everything do we need teachers, evangelist, pastors? Brothers and sisters, most Christians do not understand that the person without the gift of prophecy cannot see the prophetic significance in the Word AT the right time. You see, the prophetic books in the Old Testament (Isaiah, Micah, Jeremiah, etc) can apply to us today. When brothers and sisters are led by Spirit to refer to the Word and apply it to us in our situation today...it is prophecy.

For example, in Revelation the seven letters to the seven Churches for instance were written to 7 physical Churches at that time. However, a person reading about it will just see it as such....absolutely no connection or relevance today. However, being moved by the Holy Spirit it can be revealed to us that this is talking about today.

Giaour, "do not despise prophecy" rather "prove and test it". Are you despising or testing?

Edited March 9, 2006 by felix