Government and The Catholic Church?

[Catsmeow]

Sorry, Blood and Bride:

Just to clear the air, I was laughing at Idolsmasher's comment about Al Queda.

We're probably a little on edge lately because there's so much disinformation floating around. If you look at "Urban Legends" or just computer hackers, you realize so many malicious people spreading deception. It tends to make a person a bit jaded.

Not intended to offend our brothers and sisters.

[Guest shadow2b]

        why not accept that God could leave a note in a 20 dollar bill to teach us not to trust in money but in God? I know God must operate through his Word...it did not say mans doctrines...but I would not doubt this to be my last post...I have begun to see a pattern here...some are decent and do not mind debate....others just want to pick...or be rude....how does one cancel membership anyway? I think coming here was a BIG mistake...

WeLL, blood, i have seen this little deal with the $20.00 dollar bill, it's there.. BUT this is kind-a- silly to get in a snit over----it's there --big deal-- it affects my faith not one whit------

A pattern here????? OH, PLEASE, come now----AHHHHH your Word{DEBATE} RIGHT???

well, in a debate each person presents their view point, it doesn't have to be rude or nit-picking--it's just their perspective--their OPINION---WHICH I HAVE LEARNED on these boards --EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION & IS ENTITLED TO IT WHETHER OR NOT I AGREE WITH THEM OR NOT OR WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT----

NOW "IF" this is your {LAST POST??} on these boards --that will be your decision, for no--one here has tried to ridicule you,or tried to drive you off of these boards---AS a matter of fact --you & your wife were rather heartily welcomed to worthy-boards in a very loving & brotherly manner.....i could go back & copy them for you if need be,--I don't think you have been on worthy long enough to make an honest assessment as to whether or not your coming here was {A BIG MISTAKE}-------

BUT "IF" you are such a crying whining little mama's boy that just because some have entered into {your debate} & have not ALL sided with your opinion & point of view, WeLL by doggies YOU are just gonna take your bat & ball & go running home to mommy,well, GEEEEE----WHIZZZZZZZ------

HOW are you ever going to present any more of your thoughts,insights, into GOD'S WORD "IF" you go running out on all the rest of us??????HOW are we OR you ever going to "LEARN" all that all of US have to contribute to each ones growth in GOD'S WORD????

There are some very great theologians, prayer warriors, comfortors,exhorters,& one or two clowns,

& just ONE "FLAKE" namely ME--SO this {FLAKE-POSITION} is filled,but any of the others can be entered into to which you might aspire to.....

THE learning/teaching atmosphere on worthy-boards is WeLL defined & open to discussion where any position can be presented {not heresy tho} & will be responded to in a christian manner {most of the time} so "IF" you have the guts & desire to learn & teach --HANG AROUND YOU just might find it interesting & insightful----------& by the way---WELCOME to worthy boards-------Gary--

[traveller]

BSS, Gary is correct - -the FLAKE position IS filled!!

(LOVE ya Gary - remember that! )

BSS, Bride - - this is a good place. Yes, we are a tight group. That's because we are family. You are part of our family. As Godrulz said, we need each other in which to learn and grow. Personally, the more the merrier in which to worship and praise our Lord Jesus Christ, I say.

Bottom line, we gather here to learn and mature in the word. Sometimes we encounter debates on issues that really don't mean a thing in the scheme of things - and those can be, well, unnecessary. Yes, sometimes we lose our tempers. But you know what, we're not perfect and we're not sinfree. We are eager to gain that perfection though. I'm sorry if you felt as though you were treated unfairly. If I said ANYTHING to either offend or upset you, I truly apologize to you both and ask your forgiveness, for it was certainly not my intent.

I hope that you will reconsider leaving. I'm sure we have something to learn from you. I'm sure you have something to learn from us. And I KNOW we all have a LOT to learn from the Holy Spirit.

Your sis in Christ

trav

[Guest Bride of Christ]

BUT "IF" you are such a crying whining little mama's boy that just because some have entered into {your debate} & have not ALL sided with your opinion & point of view, WeLL by doggies YOU are just gonna take your bat & ball & go running home to mommy,well, GEEEEE----WHIZZZZZZZ------

Greetings in Christ! I just have one thing to say about your post, Brother....

....the above quote went just a tad too far. You could have worded that in a different manner. That's the kind of stuff that could be taken as rude....well, I didn't take it as rude, I thought it was down-right rude. But that is my opinion....and you said yourself, everyone is entitled to them.

Thinking about what you write before you actually spout off may be helpful, Brother.......you may not mean for them to hurt, but it can hurt feelings...

Blessings.

[Guest shadow2b]

BUT "IF" you are such a crying  whining little mama's boy that just because some have entered into {your debate} & have not ALL sided with your opinion & point of view, WeLL by doggies YOU are just gonna take your bat & ball & go running home  to mommy,well, GEEEEE----WHIZZZZZZZ------

Greetings in Christ! I just have one thing to say about your post, Brother....

....the above quote went just a tad too far. You could have worded that in a different manner. That's the kind of stuff that could be taken as rude....well, I didn't take it as rude, I thought it was down-right rude. But that is my opinion....and you said yourself, everyone is entitled to them.

Thinking about what you write before you actually spout off may be helpful, Brother.......you may not mean for them to hurt, but it can hurt feelings...

Blessings.

IF you're gonna quote someone son quote the whole text OR wouldn't that fit in with your plans????

[Guest shadow2b]

the responses to my husbands (Blood Stained Soul) posts, the Lord began dealing with me on some stuff concerning this board, well really the people that post on this board....

point#1--

WeLL,bride, after reading this post most "carefully" I doubt very much the accuracy of the above statement..{& remember,this is MY opinion--WHICH i'M entitled to--even IF you doNOT like it or agree with it & this assessment is based on YOUR words}.--{ the LORD began dealng with you about the people on worthy boards}???????

NO this reminds me of a couple of very self centered,egotistical people who canNOT stand the thought that their words--thoughts, ideas teachings doctrines are NOT wholeheartedly accepted & welcomed with out-stretched arms,open minds, & everyone jumping up & down & turning cartwheels down the midddle of the street..---------

First of all, most of you forget that you have no idea who's on the other side of the computer screen. It could be some 70 year old person, who's been saved 50 years....reading their Bible and praying and living the Holy life we are called to live....and preaching the Word for 40 years. I would think they would have a lot to contribute to boards like this.

point#2----

AS one of those {older people-not 70yrs. old-yet} on the other side of the computer screen, BUT I have been praying,studying GOD'S WORD for over 30--thirty years & trying to live a holy life,which i fail miserably at, BUT I do have A FATHER I can go to ask HIS forgiveness & to please help me to do better in the future..YET I am still a babe in the woods compared to "SOME" of my older brothers who have lived lives filled with tragedy,love,joy & sometimes PEACE under the shadow of their FATHERS wings.. BROTHERS who have taught me so much,corrected me when needed ,REbuked me sternly when needed,BUT always in LOVE & concern for ME, concern for MY eternal soul & where I will spend eternity, brotherly love that transcends my stupidity,& my ignorance of GOD'S WORD in some areas, & their only desire is to see ME GROW IN THE KNOWLEDGE & GRACE OF GOD--- TO GROW closer to our LORD & SAVIOUR THE LORD-JESUS-YESHUA----

But you know what? On THIS board, newbies aren't all that welcome. You automatically assume that we're out to tear this board down and impose some kind of wacked out doctrine on you all.

point#3---

The above statement isNOT accurate or TRUE whatsoever--YOU should NEVER put words in other peoples mouths,especially when they are absolutely UNTRUE---YOU bride & your husband blood stained soul were MOST enthusiastically & whole heartedly WELCOMED to worthy-boards----

Your stated ASSUMPTIONS are entirely your own feelings & completely erroneous. Your husband blood stated that he entered worthy boards & wanted to {DEBATE} his words not mine--yet in a DEBATE one presents their own personal "opinion" point of view & presents the reasoning behind those views.... Then the other side or sides are presented with their views,opinions & the reasonings behind those views--NOW whether or not those OTHER views agree OR disagree with yours IS irrelevent , they are the views--opinions of the other posters & "THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THOSE OPINIONS--VIEWS---PHYLOSOPHIES--WHETHER or NOT you agree with them or LIKE THEM OR NOT"---I learned that "lesson" after coming to these boards--THE VERY BEST CHRISTIAN BOARDS ON THE ENTIRE NET--where there is brotherly love, knowledge & wisdom OF GOD'S WORD that is presented in TRUTH--IN LOVE--& IN THE POWER & ANOINTING OF THE HOLY-SPIRIT--Where the Unlearned can "learn",the knowledgeable can teach, sinners can be brought into GOD'S KINGDOM,

Where prayer can be answered, lives restored, families torn apart can be restored.....Where satan is defeated, GOD REIGNS SUPREME & JESUS-YESHUA IS EXALTED-----

As Christians, we are supposed to be SLOW to speak and QUICK to listen.....I don't see that happening here

point#4-----

THAT FIRST PART IS VERY TRUE--however YOU should take your own words to heart, YOU have NOT been here on worthy boards long enough to make such rash statements & erroneous judgements, they show your immaturity & lack of understanding of GOD'S WORD..."IF" you doNOT see something happening on these boards IT'S because you are not looking & you are more interested in promoting your own views & opinions....YOU haveNOT shown any interest in getting to "KNOW" any one of us rather your interes is ONLY in posting your own views & decrying any opposition to those views.........

  it can be hard on a forum to do that, but instead of quickly tearing down a post, you could ask questions on what they really mean. I understand that you all are a really tight-knit group....that's great....most of you hold the same beliefs too....that's wonderful.....I even notice that you "accept" some older newbies on this board with no problem....

point#5----

WeLL, bride , it is quite evident you doNOT understand the idea of {DEBATE] which Blood so hurredily established as his Goal--to present a topic & give "his" views on,in a debate as has already been established there are TWO views presented, then those views are {examined,disected,explained} which was done, now then you come on decrying the very thing that was presented & the ground rules established by blood....This crying of {FOUL} is illogical & childish in that the rules were established by your husband{DEBATE}?????Understand now???

SO there is nothing to be crying "foul" over-------

YES bride "WE" are a very tight-knit group{NOW} BUT we doNOT all hold the same beliefs, the basics we do agree on but there are differing views,points of understanding,& positions that we disagree on, BUT not to the point of CASTING OFF THE LOVE OF THE BRETHREN,THE LOVE & TRUST WE ALL HAVE IN OUR LORD & SAVIOUR JESUS-YESHUA----THAT IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE--NOR SHOULD IT BE-------

ACCEPTANCE & TRUST on these boards isNOT automatic, but comes thru listening,reading,seeing the HEART of some "NEWBIE"listening to their trials,pitfalls,& testings who after a while areNOT a "NEWBIE" & their views,opinions are presented & looked at,& at times corrected when they are out of line with GOD'S WORD-----I have been there---done that---been corrected & shown how & why I was WRONG------I have learned to LOVE, honor, & respect those that have taught ,loved, & corrected my doctrine..... SO will you & your husband "IF" you have the guts to stay here & learn & teach what you already know that some of us might NOT know--------

When a new person comes to post on this board, you don't know who they are or what they believe in.....yet you tear them to shreds on every single post. It hasn't been just my husband and I either, so don't think I'm just talking about us. Christian love?! I'm sorry, but I don't really see it....except among the ones that have been here for a LONG time. That's sad. Instead of tearing down your fellow Brothers and Sisters, you should be building them up....it shouldn't matter how many posts they have.

point#6----

AS stated before YOU DONOT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF {DEBATE}which you erroneously term;{tear them to shreds on every single post} THE nature of {DEBATE} is to disect,examine, down to the very basic & last syllable to {SEE IF THOSE THINGS ARE SO} as the BEREANS did to paul when he was {before salvation} known to hate imprison & persecute this "new" doctrine OF only in JESUS-CHRIST is there any SALVATION----and Paul was at the stoning of stephen,he held the coats of those jews that stoned stephen to death... SO every single solitary word PAUL spoke was DISECTED--EXAMINED---TORN-APART---NOW, NONE of us are PAUL & yet are we all not entitled to examine ANY & ALL doctrines that are posted here by each other & any"newbie" as well??????

Christian love?! I'm sorry, but I don't really see it....except among the ones that have been here for a LONG time. That's sad. Instead of tearing down your fellow Brothers and Sisters, you should be building them up....it shouldn't matter how many posts they have.

I've noticed that you can't post on here about certain things....such as:

point#7-------

CHRISTIAN LOVE------I rather doubt the apostle paul was very widely accepted with open arms when he first started his ministry--I mean he was known as a devout,very zealous,very intelligent jewish theologian who hated these NEW christians, even to the point of putting whole families in prison...."IF" you doNOT see the christian love {except among the few of us that have been here a LONG time} you are deliberately NOT looking for it---& you haveNOT been here LONG enough to really make such rash & UNtruthful statements...IT is quite apparent that you have been hurt because of some percieved injustice that your views & opinions haveNOT been readilly accepted,but have been subjected to the same type of study & research as pauls teachings were..Are you any better than paul??? Should not not only your views & opinions as well as any of ours be subjected to the same type of scrutiny as Pauls were ?????

**Christians should surround themselves with Christian things (Christian music, Christian books, etc)

It's a good topic....one that many Christians here obviously disagree with. You can reach the lost of this world and you don't have to use their stuff to do it. We are to be different than the lost....using their stuff is saying we're the same. That's what the different genres of CHristian music are for. I don't care for them all, but they are useful in reaching the lost. Secular stuff to a Christian should be trash....yes, we hear it all the time, everywhere we go....doesn't mean we have to enjoy it and actually partake of it.

point#8-----

THIS christian music--books is of course your own personal private opinion --which you are entitled to.... I agree with you on the different genres of music, I doNOT like some of them{my opinion--i'm entitled to also} I doNOT agree that some of this so-called christian music is used to reach the lost-

JUST because a style of music,,the beat,the loudness, the not being able to hear the words--even tho christian words are exchanged for the secular ones does NOT make it christian music {imho}...

QUite correct WE are to be different----BUT if it looks like a duck,quacks like a duck,acts like a duck, there's a very real probability IT IS A DUCK------

  **Defending yourself and your family without actually killing someone.

It is possible. As for Christians supporting the death penalty: that person committed a crime, yes....must have been pretty bad to get the death penalty, I agree....but you know what? If they are put to death in their sin, they are going to go to hell. Why should a Christian be in support of a lost soul going to hell? The Lord knows that some will, but He doesn't WANT any to perish, but to have eternal life with Him. I don't think it's right for a Christian to harden their hearts toward these lost. To God sin is sin....period. What if He had decided that YOU were unreachable and gave up on you and supported your death?

point#9-------

THE above IS your own personal,private opinion--which you are absolutely entitled to BUT that doesNOT negate MY right to have MY opinion on the death penalty---

HOW can YOU decide that a person has hardened their heart to those that committ terrible crimes

This is NOT within your perogative to judge as to whether a christian has "hardened" their heart or not----YOU do owe an apology to anyone that holds a view different than yours on the death penalty, this is insulting & judgemental..-------

You have as much of God in your lives as you want. God always wants to do so much more in your lives than you even allow Him. Most have Him stuffed in this little tiny box...."Oh God, you can't move in this way....you can't do that"....when are you going to break Him out of that box and let Him move as He wants to? When are you going to quit limiting the Lord?

point#10-------

THE above statement clearly shows YOUR immaturity,since you haveNOT been here long enough to really know whether or NOT we put GOD in a box &/OR limit him in any way-----

IT is quite apparant that you consider yourself to be a GREATER authority on GOD'S WORD & HOW HE does things than those of us on these boards---This type of attitude usually leads to severe error & eventually a false doctrine-------------

**Anything about the JW's...even if it is to learn how they beliefs are different so you can better witness

According to many, this topic is unwanted on this board really. They're unreachable....they don't listen. I'm sure glad that no one thought that about me when first presenting me with the Gospel....cuz I sure didn't listen....and I'd be willing to say many of you didn't at first either. You were too happy in your sin....but you know what, they persisted and you finally listened. What's the difference

point#11---------

YOUR ASSUMPTIONS are again ERRONEOUS,AROGANT & JUST PLAIN WRONG-----YOU have NO idea as to when or how anyone on these boards were SAVED--And as i pointed out to your husband I

already have enough knowledge of most of the cults &/or just plain old every day common sinners. I personally have spent days &/OR hours in prayer & study of GOD'S WORD before going out to witness to ANYONE I ask for GOD'S WORDS & the anointing of the HOLY-SPIRIT TO present those WORDS IN the POWER--THE LOVE & THE KNOWLEDGE of THE HOLY-SPIRIT WHICH HAS NEVER FAILED!!!!!!!!!

It's funny that when a Christian Brother or Sister, who's a new poster, has so obviously broken the Lord Jesus Christ out of that tiny box most Christians like to have Him in, that person is shunned and torn down. Yet Wiccans are embraced and called friends....not torn down.....not even witnessed to. Something isn't right there...

point#12-------

THE above statement is ERRONEOUS, ARROGANT,INSULTING,& I guarantee IF this type of attitude is persisted in will lead to severe ERROR & FALSE DOCTRINE,---I fail to see HOW a mere mortal human christian could {break the LORD-JESUS-CHRIST} out of any perceived box HE might possibly have been put in-----SHUNNED??????You're STILL here, people are trying to communicate with you, yet who is shunning whom here??????? WICCANS are embraced as FRIENDS?? & NOT witnessed to????? YET true brothers are torn down????? {SOMETHING ISN'T RIGHT HERE????} YES there is something quite wrong here --YOUR Immature,childish, whining, crying,arrogant & erroneous attitude & ill-conceived perceptions of the people on worthy boards & all the erroneous assumptions ALL because you & your husband wereNOT welcomed with a 30 piece string band parading down the main street of your home town or some such silly idea.....

  That's all that the Lord spoke to me about. A sharp rebuke to you all? Harsh? Probably some of it....but I just write it as the Lord leads me to. Hopefully it will be a wake up call to you usual posters. I just pray that you actually receive it and ask the Lord to point out to each one of you what you can do to make things better here.

Blessings...

point#13----

--YES I have received a wakeUP call thru these posts---

TO be MORE aware of who & what is posted on these boards..TO read very carefully what is posted, to examine each & every word...

LUKE.8.vs.18---`Take heed therefore how ye hear---

mark.4.vs.24---And HE said unto them,Take heed what ye hear;

[Guest dove2]

**Defending yourself and your family without actually killing someone.

It is possible. As for Christians supporting the death penalty: that person committed a crime, yes....must have been pretty bad to get the death penalty, I agree....but you know what? If they are put to death in their sin, they are going to go to hell. Why should a Christian be in support of a lost soul going to hell? The Lord knows that some will, but He doesn't WANT any to perish, but to have eternal life with Him. I don't think it's right for a Christian to harden their hearts toward these lost. To God sin is sin....period. What if He had decided that YOU were unreachable and gave up on you and supported your death?

Bride, why didn't you say this on your own when I resonded to your question? You let your husband answer for you and now you are bringing this back up in another post on another thread? You call that Kosher? I sure don't.

My husband has been on this board for a very long time. Me, I just started really. The people on this board know me very little more than they do you except for my husband telling them about me. Believe me, they are still checking me out and rightly so. They know my husband and my husband is part of the "IN Group" as you call them. I am slowly getting to know them on my own. I have not been accepted as one of the "IN GROUP" yet either so why are you complaining. Everyone should check everyone else out. For the most part the people on this board are kind, loving and very sincerely love the Lord. There are a couple of odd balls and right now, I am one of them. I fear, I may call my temper "righteous indignation" rather than temper. That is my own fault and my own opinion. I am sure the Lord will work with me on this.

Do you think you can just go on a board and be accepted immediately as the wife of a dreamer, a prophet, a preacher? Heaven forbid. You must be checked out the same as anyone else.

Have you ever PM'd anyone to get to know them? Have you thought some might have some problems that they need prayer for? You come on judging before knowing.

If you have something to say to someone about the death penalty then it is me that you should be dealing with. I am the one you didn't see fit to answer!

There are several husbands and wives on this board. One happens to be my husband (shadow2b) and My husband doesn't use me to start a thread so that he can teach on it. To begin with he would not ask me to do such a thing and another thing, I would not do such a thing. There have been several threads or questions you have started. Someone answers you and you do not answer them back, you let your husband do the talking for you. Now are you going to answer me back or let your husband talk for you again?

I don't have a hard heart against people concerning the death penalty. It tears me up when someone is given the death penatly. That sure doesn't mean that I don't agree with it and I am not going to say anymore on this subject. You should not have brought it back up. You remiind me of a new bride who has not learned to not bring old things back up yet.

Patsy

[godrulz]

The exhortation is to speak the TRUTH in LOVE. We cannot judge each other's motives accurately. I would like to respond to ideas rather than attacking the messenger.

[Blood Stained Soul]

The exhortation is to speak the TRUTH in LOVE. We cannot judge each other's motives accurately. I would like to respond to ideas rather than attacking the messenger.

Greetings in Christ! I agree, my wife made some solid points and ruffled some feathers. She had observations in her time here thus far, and has a right to speak them. They may not be "accurate" but instead of correcting in "love" they did just what she accused people of "ripped her to shreads." I do not like to see my wife spoken to foul and if it happens again I will talk to who I need to talk to. A lot of false things said there about my wife, but like Micheal said to Lucifer in the book of Jude...May the Lord rebuke them. I do not have time for anymore of this kiddy back and forth game.

My wife made some observations and cats meow talked to her in private about one of them and my wife saw that she was wrong and should have researched it more...why did my wife accept it...because it was written in a pleasant way...a LOVING correction...Brother Shadow I will say one thing....debating is supposed to be impersonal...but your making this VERY personal...Why did my wife bring stuff up...cause she has a right to state her opinion...which is what her post was...if you do not like it fine...but no need to rip her character apart...you people are SO out of line...had you been foul like that in person....I would have had to pray REAL hard!!!! I am flesh and Blood too...but I take things concerning my wife REAL PERSONAL....you havea right to pick apart thoughts if you want...but not charactr assasination..

[Guest Bride of Christ]

If you have something to say to someone about the death penalty then it is me that you should be dealing with. I am the one you didn't see fit to answer!

There are several husbands and wives on this board. One happens to be my husband (shadow2b) and My husband doesn't use me to start a thread so that he can teach on it. To begin with he would not ask me to do such a thing and another thing, I would not do such a thing. There have been several threads or questions you have started. Someone answers you and you do not answer them back, you let your husband do the talking for you. Now are you going to answer me back or let your husband talk for you again?

Greetings in Christ! I have seen yours and your husbands posts....and what I have quoted you above on is the only thing I'm going to comment on.

I wasn't talking to just you on the death penalty thing, Sister. I'm sorry if my not responding to you upset you. We have one computer here at our house and if my husband gets online and sees a post and responds to it....for the most part I agree and have nothing to add, so why just repeat what he said? That's my thinking anyways....please don't think I'm ignoring you. Like I said previously....I read all of the posts in the threads that I and my husband have posted in....and in other threads as well.....just haven't been posting all that much. My apologies.....I had thought about it last night, actually before I had read this.....you're right, I'm being slack....starting threads and not really posting on them again to respond to those who responded. That'll be changing, so don't worry.

You were wrong on the second part of what you said (that I quoted). My husband DIDN'T use me to start that thread. For a solid week we had Bible studies on the five-fold ministry....and the Lord used him to teach me a lot that I didn't know. I started that thread under the leading of the Lord....and I was curious as to what other Christians thought about the office of the Apostle. That thread is the first one that I started.

We are one flesh, Sister, in our marriage.....just like you and your husband....and any other married couple. When my husband answers a poster, he has something to say (obviously).....if he said basically the same thing that I would have said, what's the point of me getting on to reiterate his already-made point? But, if this bothers you....I'll try to get on and at least say that I agree with him. Like I said, I wasn't trying to upset you or ignore you....hope you understand.

On a side note, I have thought about PMing some posters to get to know them better....you being one of them....but I didn't know until catsmeow PMed me, how to do that. Now I know. On the flip side though, have you ever thought about PMing me to get to know me better? It works both ways....not trying to blame you or anything....just saying it does.

To be honest, I'm not responding to the rest of your post or your husbands post for the very reasons my husband stated when he responded to god-rulz.....it was rude and out-of-hand.

I just believe a communication problem is at hand here....ya'll are misunderstanding a lot of our posts and we are yours too. It's bound to happen when people don't know each other. Not a big deal. With time, everything will be smoothed over....ya'll will get to know us and our love for Jesus Christ....and we'll get to know you. No biggie. Takes time.

Blessings Sister....and look for a PM later this afternoon. Would do it right now, but I'm going back to bed (it's a little after 8am here and I didn't get a lot of sleep last night....hard to get comfortable when you're pregnant. lol)....then I'm going to do my alone time with the Lord.....but I will PM you today. Blessings.