Government and The Catholic Church?

[Guest shadow2b]

The exhortation is to speak the TRUTH in LOVE. We cannot judge each other's motives accurately. I would like to respond to ideas rather than attacking the messenger.

Greetings in Christ! I agree, my wife made some solid points and ruffled some feathers. She had observations in her time here thus far, and has a right to speak them. They may not be "accurate" but instead of correcting in "love" they did just what she accused people of "ripped her to shreads." I do not like to see my wife spoken to foul and if it happens again I will talk to who I need to talk to. A lot of false things said there about my wife, but like Micheal said to Lucifer in the book of Jude...May the Lord rebuke them. I do not have time for anymore of this kiddy back and forth game.

My wife made some observations and cats meow talked to her in private about one of them and my wife saw that she was wrong and should have researched it more...why did my wife accept it...because it was written in a pleasant way...a LOVING correction...Brother Shadow I will say one thing....debating is supposed to be impersonal...but your making this VERY personal...Why did my wife bring stuff up...cause she has a right to state her opinion...which is what her post was...if you do not like it fine...but no need to rip her character apart...you people are SO out of line...had you been foul like that in person....I would have had to pray REAL hard!!!! I am flesh and Blood too...but I take things concerning my wife REAL PERSONAL....you havea right to pick apart thoughts if you want...but not charactr assasination..

Who started the character assassination???????? NOW all of a sudden ,it's perfectly acceptable to have a differing opinion,such wasNOT the case in brides post to begin with..WE{me} were ALL WRONG for having a differing opinion---BRIDE ruffled no feathers except in stating erroneous assumptions & making & pronouncing judgements on ALL the people on worthy boards that she had no way of knowing whether or not they were true or accurate....

Observations that wereNOT NOT accurate????

SO are you admitting these observations wereNOT accurate????

CORRECTION IN LOVE????

Have you ever read in Corinthians THE corrections Paul made on a brother that had sinned?????

HIS correction was not lovey -dovey, or dripping with honey coated words but rather was matter of fact--straight forward & to the point....no less --no more---

WE all were accused of "nit picking" ripping to shreads[the same as now} yet " WE" did nothing more than the bereans did when Paul a former persecutor of christians came preaching JESUS as the only way of salvation----THE bereans examined--inspected {ripped to shreds??} each & every word paul spoke to SEE IF those things were so in light of scripture------

Blood stained soul--YOUR wife wasNOT spoken to {FOUL} at all-- YOU may speak to whomsoever you desire to BUT there was nothin false said to your wife concerning the post she made.

She made INaccurate statements about the people on these boards--pronounced judgements that were NOT within her perogative to do so...NO THE LORD does not REBUKE truth when it is spoken...

NO ones character was ASSASSINATED---ERROR was pointed out---falsehoods were pointed out--

[Catsmeow]

BSS & Bride: If people say unkind things, it's just best to ignore them. That's easy for me to say but I had someone say something unkind to me and it hurt.

I'm sympathetic to unkind remarks and appologize for any I've made.

1 Cor 13

vs 4, 5 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

vs8b But wherre there are prophecies they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

vs 13 And now these three remain: faith hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

[Guest Bride of Christ]

BSS & Bride: If people say unkind things, it's just best to ignore them. That's easy for me to say but I had someone say something unkind to me and it hurt.

I'm sympathetic to unkind remarks and appologize for any I've made.

1 Cor 13

vs 4, 5 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

vs8b But wherre there are prophecies they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

vs 13 And now these three remain: faith hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

Greetings in Christ! I agree, Sister, and that's what we had resolved to do....

Blessings...

[Guest dove2]

Bride,

I did get a PM from you and have not read it yet. I did not read your reply to me on this thread or anyone elses. I wanted to reply to you on this thread first. The Lord has been dealing with me on the way I have been posting and the first thing I want to do is ask your forgiveness along with your husband's forgiveness for being so un-Christian.

I also ask forgiveness of any one else I have offended and that includes Voice.

There is no excuse for my behavior so I will read the PM you sent and will reply.

I have decided that I probably won't be posting on this board any longer. I can not stand the contention that I have been running into for the last few weeks. Maybe it is just me, but the Love of the Lord does not seem to be here like my husband said it once was.

With the Love of Jesus,

Patsy

[Blood Stained Soul]

Greetings in Christ! I have tried to get away from what I read this morning, but I cannot...it started what turned out to be one of the worst days I have had in a while, but through all of this the Lord has taught me some things. I shall be preaching tommorrow morning through our E-sermon Ministry about what God shared with me. Brother Shadow I have only one thing left to say for now, after I say this, the rest is up to you.

I started a thread on online churches..it was brought to my attention that your disabled..I will be praying that God touch you and heal you sir...

It seems that some passion for views has spilled over here and gotten personal....this does not Honor Christ...and both sides are at fault...Paul got grilled but I doubt it was mean spirited...not saying it was...but to us that is how it came across...this is what happens when rapid fire answers come instead of well thought about and prayed over answers...I myself shall try to do better on this...if my posts have caused any sin here, either by anger or hurt feelings..then I am sorry...Blessings...

[Blood Stained Soul]

Bride,

I did get a PM from you and have not read it yet. I did not read your reply to me on this thread or anyone elses. I wanted to reply to you on this thread first. The Lord has been dealing with me on the way I have been posting and the first thing I want to do is ask your forgiveness along with your husband's forgiveness for being so un-Christian.

I also ask forgiveness of any one else I have offended and that includes Voice.

There is no excuse for my behavior so I will read the PM you sent and will reply.

I have decided that I probably won't be posting on this board any longer. I can not stand the contention that I have been running into for the last few weeks. Maybe it is just me, but the Love of the Lord does not seem to be here like my husband said it once was.

With the Love of Jesus,

Patsy

Greetings in Christ! Speaking for my family...we ask that you do not leave...I do not think that would be best at all...please read my other post I just posted...Blessings

[Guest Bride of Christ]

Bride,

I did get a PM from you and have not read it yet. I did not read your reply to me on this thread or anyone elses. I wanted to reply to you on this thread first. The Lord has been dealing with me on the way I have been posting and the first thing I want to do is ask your forgiveness along with your husband's forgiveness for being so un-Christian.

I also ask forgiveness of any one else I have offended and that includes Voice.

There is no excuse for my behavior so I will read the PM you sent and will reply.

I have decided that I probably won't be posting on this board any longer. I can not stand the contention that I have been running into for the last few weeks. Maybe it is just me, but the Love of the Lord does not seem to be here like my husband said it once was.

With the Love of Jesus,

Patsy

Greetings in Christ Jesus!

Please don't leave, Sister!!!

I PM'd you back....about to shoot off an e-mail too....

Blessings upon you, your husband, and your house

[Guest idolsmasher]

So where did Jonathan go anyway, he started this whole thing.

Anyway, I went to the clearpath website and I must admit that most of it was difficult for me to swallow. I wanted to see how Jonathan would justify his belief but it looks like he has split or isn't responding. Anyway, Just want to say sorry if I was offensive at all in this thread. I think bride did make some valid points even if she was angry in spirit and many of those admonitions should be taken to heart. Shadow, you need to get ahold of the Lord and lighten up on this woman, she's trying, and bss is trying, and your wife was trying, but you were kinda putting a wrench in the machinery. I pray you guys can work things out and let go of all this negative energy. That's a good thing to pray for the board as a whole too!

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1 Thessalonians 4:9 But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

[Guest shadow2b]

hmmmmmmm??????--valid points??????? can you say groundless accusations??????-----

wrench in the machinery????? NOPE!!!!!!---negative energy??????hmmmmmmm?????

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[Blood Stained Soul]

Greetings in Christ! If people want to go the route of personal arguement, they will have to find two other people to do so with, my wife and I have been spanked by Jesus enough on this matter. For us it is a closed topic. In fact dove2 and my wife are even in FRIENDLY correspondence through email. We hold no ill will or grudges. We have admitted our mistakes, and I was man enough to admit it in front of the whole board. No pats on my back, just thats what your supposed to do. We shall pray for Shadow and his wife, and leave it at that until shadow takes care of things on his end..bitterness is a bad thing to have...I was man enough to leave my gift at the alter and try to make things right..so I, my wife, and even dove2, are cleared by Jesus on this..we all made peace about it...and are moving past it....Blessings..