Patriotism? Or elitism?

[apothanein kerdos]

I guess this is a good place to post my article:

I think it must first be acknowledged up front that I think current laws on border control are based on racist notions. Up until the 1970s, the US placed a cap on each individual nation, with European nations getting a higher per capita cap than other non-white nations. This is not hard to believe considering race relations were just beginning to smooth out during this time. We graduated to a general cap on immigration but, if we pay attention to per capita, we see that

[Kabowd]

^^^ Thank you!!!

[nebula]

I think it must first be acknowledged up front that I think current laws on border control are based on racist notions. Up until the 1970s, the US placed a cap on each individual nation, with European nations getting a higher per capita cap than other non-white nations. This is not hard to believe considering race relations were just beginning to smooth out during this time. We graduated to a general cap on immigration but, if we pay attention to per capita, we see that

[Gerioke]

perhaps discrimination is a more appropriate word.

[apothanein kerdos]

I think it must first be acknowledged up front that I think current laws on border control are based on racist notions. Up until the 1970s, the US placed a cap on each individual nation, with European nations getting a higher per capita cap than other non-white nations. This is not hard to believe considering race relations were just beginning to smooth out during this time. We graduated to a general cap on immigration but, if we pay attention to per capita, we see that

[nebula]

But can you prove that is race?

US and Canada traditionally have more comradary than Mexico.

There is more to the issue than the "color of their skin".

As your post above pointed out, the issue in question was income level, not skin tone.

[apothanein kerdos]

But can you prove that is race?

US and Canada traditionally have more comradary than Mexico.

There is more to the issue than the "color of their skin".

As your post above pointed out, the issue in question was income level, not skin tone.

And just why have Canada and the US had more comradary? Mexico has more natural resources and more ability to trade...the reason being is that Canadians were from Anglo-Saxon backgrounds (or French). We cannot ignore this early important fact in how our policy towards both developed. I find it amazing that people are trying to ignore the fact that our foriegn policy, up until about twenty to fifty years ago, was based on racist notions.

I mean, I'm sitting here showing you that white nations get more in per capita than non-white nations do...and you're saying that has nothing to do with race?

[nebula]

How many wars did we fight against Canada? How many wars did we fight against Mexico?

That has nothing to do with US-Mexico relations?

WWI the first time Brittain, France and the US can be found fighting on the same side - was Mexico one of the Allies?

(Speaking of, were Brittain and France's contention with each other for centuries a race issue?)

Are you truly claiming that skin color was the sole source of tensions vs. comradary?

What about the Irish? They are white, yet they sure got the bad end of the comradary stick.

As for per capita income, Mexico used to be a weathy, powerful nation. What happened to change that? Racial tension?

[Gerioke]

ummm... I believe if what I see on the boards is true, it is easier for mexicans to get across the border than it is for Canadians.

[apothanein kerdos]

How many wars did we fight against Canada? How many wars did we fight against Mexico?

That has nothing to do with US-Mexico relations?

Why do you think we went to war with Mexico and not Canada? Canada, being owned by the British, was a much better target. Yet we chose to eradicate the Mexicans from land that they had occupied for hundreds of years because...well...they were Mexicans. We did the same thing with the Native Americans. It was all driven by ethnocentric (racist) views.

WWI the first time Brittain, France and the US can be found fighting on the same side - was Mexico one of the Allies?

Of course not, we invaded them and took their land only about 60 years before...long enough for some of the people to remember thus affecting foriegn policy. likewise, where was the US in the first three years of both world wars? We only fought because we were drawn into it.

Are you truly claiming that skin color was the sole source of tensions vs. comradary?

Uh...yeah. That's kind of historical fact.

As for per capita income, Mexico used to be a weathy, powerful nation. What happened to change that? Racial tension?

We invaded them and set up a puppet government. Likewise, it was a rich and powerful colony and once it gained freedom poverty began to run rampant.