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AL-KEE-HAUL for JESUS?

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Jesus is King of Kings, Prince of Peace....so.....if He dranked al-kee-haul....He would be disobeying Prov31:4

If He made al-kee-haulic wine at the wedding....then....He would be placing temptation in front of people...."be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess".

The Lord is not a tempter of man. James 1:13

He fullfilled the law, and did no sin.

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Carl, Your link didn't work :angry:

I'm wondering what you think about that wine at Cana then, was it juice or what?  It is a good topic and there's another thread somewhere called wine or vinegar that's similar but hasn't been explored in depth yet.  Very curious about scripture references you have come up with.  Thanks

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I can't get this link to work either.

I'll have to go over that study in that link, and post it little by little.

It really gave me a lot of new scriptural insights to the wine issue.

There's something about wine also being non-alcoholic juice.  A good bit of refernce given too.  

"I'll be back" :rofl:

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The word "merry" is pretty interesting to study in the Bible.  It can mean delight and joy, but also to become tipsy, even to excess.  Check it out!

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Yod...not to discredit you at all....but could it be possible that we can find some answers in scripture that contradict the traditions you experience?  I mean that over time could these traditions of man gotten a little "off course"?

Just might it be possible that the Saviour didn't drink al-kee-hol?  As in a strongly fermented drink?

I'll get these scriptures together quickly so we may examine them, should be interesting.

OH...I'm not Baptist either....just a bible believing saint. :rofl:

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You may want to look up the definition of drunk CWJ. Drunk is out of control. Jesus was never out of control, but Noah was obviously. Can you get drunk on wine? Obviously yes. How much wine does it take to get drunk? Depends on the person. Most people who are involved in this discussion would never desire or be tempted to get drunk, so saying the wine was alcoholic does not imply that Jesus put tempation in front of the people in fact it sounds like the opposite is what happened. That is your own personal interpretation, by applying scriptures as you would like to prove your point (or the point of the author)

Paul told Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach sake. If drinking wine were sin, then Paul would not have told Timothy to drink it. Trying to make the alcohol that Jesus and the Apostles drank into grape juice is a far stretch, IMO.

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Jesus is King of Kings, Prince of Peace....so.....if He dranked al-kee-haul....He would be disobeying Prov31:4

If He made al-kee-haulic wine at the wedding....then....He would be placing temptation in front of people...."be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess".

The Lord is not a tempter of man. James 1:13

He fullfilled the law, and did no sin.

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Can we find scripture that contict his traditions, sure, can we find scripture that contict your tradtions (saying that you celebrate christmas, Easter etc. etc.) sure.  But question?  What exactly do you know concerning the traditions "Yod" mentioned??  Further what is the Aramic and hebrew words we are going to disscuss the symantics of?

Again I say if symantics is the issue then we should know the root of the words we are going to debate and their exact meaning, no?

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Can anyone show chapter and verse where the Saviour

drank wine period other than the Last Supper?

Just curious :rofl:

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