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[St. John]

--10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.

15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.

16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.

IN these verses THE ALMIGHTY GOD-KING OF THE UNIVERSE DECLARES HIS LOVE FOR HIS ONLY

BEGOTTEN SON, THE FIRST BEGOTTEN FROM THE DEAD--------

HE {ALMIGHTY GOD}sends HIS angels to care for THE SON, TO PROTECT & KEEP HIM FROM ANY

HARM-----GOD ALMIGHTY DECLARES THE SON WILL "OVERCOME & DEFEAT" THE devil--satan-& all

of his demons.....GOD ALMIGHTY THE FATHER DECLARES THAT "ONLY" THE SON HAS "KNOWN" GOD

THE FATHER'S NAME & SUBMITTED HIS WILL TO THAT OF THE FATHER & BECAUSE OF THIS ACT OF

LOVE & OBEDIENCE BY THE SON, THE FATHER WILL RAISE HIM {THE SON} FROM THE DEAD{SHOW

HIM MY SALVATION} JESUS CALLED ON THE FATHER & THE HOLY-SPIRIT FROM THE CROSS..I.E.

"MY GOD"{THE FATHER} "MY GOD"{THE HOLY-SPIRIT} WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME??

BECAUSE JESUS-YESHUA- submitted HIS WILL to that of THE FATHER, HE IS PROMISED WITH LONG

LIFE {OR RATHER ETERNAL LIFE} AS JESUS HIMSELF stated that {only the SON has"KNOWN"the

FATHER & DECLARED HIS NAME TO THE WORLD} And ONLY THE FATHER HAS "KNOWN" THE SON.....

You are incorrect.

HE WHO DWELLS means anyone who dwells not just Jesus.

And was Jesus satisfied with long life, and shown God salvation. NO! Jesus gave up his life.

This is talking about you and me and anyone who believes and does the word. Many christian have reports of seeing angels and being delivered by God's mighty angels. My son is one who was delivered from injury by an angel. I BELIEVE THEREFORE I WILL SEE THE MANIFISTATION OF THESE VERSES IF I DO WHAT GOD TELL US TO DO. But not being perfect, stuff happens. But that is no reason to not believe God is it?

[Guest shadow2b]

--And was Jesus satisfied with long life, and shown God salvation. NO! Jesus gave up his life.

YES JESUS "SAW" long life---HE was raised from the dead, never to die again--"eternal life" is

"long" life--GOD SHOWED JESUS HIS SALVATION BY RAISING HIM FROM THJE DEAD

Because JESUS SET HIS LOVE ON THE FATHER, GOD DELIVERED HIM FROM OR THRU DEATH

HE SHALL CALL UPON ME,{MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME} JESUS CALLED UPON

THE FATHER & GOD DELIVERED HIM {from or thru death}to eternal life....

WITH LONG{eternal} LIFE WILL I SATISFY HIM & SHEW HIM MY SALVATION....

Is not salvation{salvation from or thru death??} some will not see death but will be changed in a

moment, in the twinkling of an eye--Those of us that are "alive" & remain{1st..thess.4.vss.16.17}

[St. John]

--And was Jesus satisfied with long life, and shown God salvation. NO! Jesus gave up his life.

YES JESUS "SAW" long life---HE was raised from the dead, never to die again--"eternal life" is

"long" life--GOD SHOWED JESUS HIS SALVATION BY RAISING HIM FROM THJE DEAD

Because JESUS SET HIS LOVE ON THE FATHER, GOD DELIVERED HIM FROM OR THRU DEATH

HE SHALL CALL UPON ME,{MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME} JESUS CALLED UPON

THE FATHER & GOD DELIVERED HIM {from or thru death}to eternal life....

WITH LONG{eternal} LIFE WILL I SATISFY HIM & SHEW HIM MY SALVATION....

Is not salvation{salvation from or thru death??} some will not see death but will be changed in a

moment, in the twinkling of an eye--Those of us that are "alive" & remain{1st..thess.4.vss.16.17}

That is your interpretation of the word, not what the word says.

[Guest shadow2b]

i give up---

[Guest dove2]

Here shadow, I will help you bang your head

[St. John]

--And was Jesus satisfied with long life, and shown God salvation. NO! Jesus gave up his life.

YES JESUS "SAW" long life---HE was raised from the dead, never to die again--"eternal life" is

"long" life--GOD SHOWED JESUS HIS SALVATION BY RAISING HIM FROM THJE DEAD

Because JESUS SET HIS LOVE ON THE FATHER, GOD DELIVERED HIM FROM OR THRU DEATH

HE SHALL CALL UPON ME,{MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME} JESUS CALLED UPON

THE FATHER & GOD DELIVERED HIM {from or thru death}to eternal life....

WITH LONG{eternal} LIFE WILL I SATISFY HIM & SHEW HIM MY SALVATION....

Is not salvation{salvation from or thru death??} some will not see death but will be changed in a

moment, in the twinkling of an eye--Those of us that are "alive" & remain{1st..thess.4.vss.16.17}

I am sorry if I make you want to give up but the scripture on long life is a promise to all. And it is talking about long life on this earth. It did not say eternal life it said long life. Long life and eternal life are not the same. Long, has time attached to it and eternal does not.

Proverbs 3

16 Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour.

Same hebrew words used for length of days in the verse above as in 'with long life, I will satisfy him'. So the verse could read 'with length of days I will satisfy him'.

[Pentecost]

--And was Jesus satisfied with long life, and shown God salvation. NO! Jesus gave up his life.

YES JESUS "SAW" long life---HE was raised from the dead, never to die again--"eternal life" is

"long" life--GOD SHOWED JESUS HIS SALVATION BY RAISING HIM FROM THJE DEAD

Because JESUS SET HIS LOVE ON THE FATHER, GOD DELIVERED HIM FROM OR THRU DEATH

HE SHALL CALL UPON ME,{MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME} JESUS CALLED UPON

THE FATHER & GOD DELIVERED HIM {from or thru death}to eternal life....

WITH LONG{eternal} LIFE WILL I SATISFY HIM & SHEW HIM MY SALVATION....

Is not salvation{salvation from or thru death??} some will not see death but will be changed in a

moment, in the twinkling of an eye--Those of us that are "alive" & remain{1st..thess.4.vss.16.17}

I am sorry if I make you want to give up but the scripture on long life is a promise to all. And it is talking about long life on this earth. It did not say eternal life it said long life. Long life and eternal life are not the same. Long, has time attached to it and eternal does not.

Proverbs 3

16 Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour.

Same hebrew words used for length of days in the verse above as in 'with long life, I will satisfy him'. So the verse could read 'with length of days I will satisfy him'.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but you are implying that EVERYONE that dies young is lacking faith.

[RGR]

I am sorry if I make you want to give up but the scripture on long life is a promise to all. And it is talking about long life on this earth. It did not say eternal life it said long life. Long life and eternal life are not the same. Long, has time attached to it and eternal does not.

Gosh, did someone call Heaven and remind Peter, Paul, and the rest of the martyred saints that they got cheated out of that long life? So, what about children who die? I read in the paper today of a young child who was shot in the face and killed by a cold blooded murderer. God will judge the heinous perpetrator of such an act no doubt unless they repent, but under your system, something is wrong. The child wasn't at the age of accountability, so she had done nothing wrong whatsoever in God's eyes. So, why did she die? Why do we hear of people who are Christians cut down in the prime of their life over in the missions field? Your excuse for everything bad is that someone was out of God's will. How asinine.

Do you have your Rolls-Royce yet?

Are you a "little messiah" walking the earth?

Could you have paid for our salvation in Hell since you're a twice born man?

Have you written yourself that million dollar check yet?

If you cut yourself, does it hurt? If it does, you're out of God's will, St. John.

You absolutely baffle me! The Bible says to not argue with a divisive man, so I hereby make a public announcement that I will not continue to engage you in this sort of debate-it is getting too personal for any good to become of it.

[St. John]

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but you are implying that EVERYONE that dies young is lacking faith.

Ok, you are wrong, I never said or implied that.

Do you believe that God is able to keep his promises? Did God promise that if you obey your parents that you would live long on the earth?

Ephesians 6

1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.

2 Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise;

3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

You may live long on the earth if what? Read verse one and two to find out how. Being obedient to the word, or doing the word of God, is another way to put it, and having faith in God to keep his promise, should result in the promise coming to pass, should it not.

You say "are you implying that everyone who dies young, lacks faith?" No. Are you implying that people who know the promises of God concerning healing and long life, and meet the conditions, through faith and obedience, can't enjoy them?

[St. John]

I am sorry if I make you want to give up but the scripture on long life is a promise to all. And it is talking about long life on this earth. It did not say eternal life it said long life. Long life and eternal life are not the same. Long, has time attached to it and eternal does not.

Gosh, did someone call Heaven and remind Peter, Paul, and the rest of the martyred saints that they got cheated out of that long life? So, what about children who die? I read in the paper today of a young child who was shot in the face and killed by a cold blooded murderer. God will judge the heinous perpetrator of such an act no doubt unless they repent, but under your system, something is wrong. The child wasn't at the age of accountability, so she had done nothing wrong whatsoever in God's eyes. So, why did she die? Why do we hear of people who are Christians cut down in the prime of their life over in the missions field? Your excuse for everything bad is that someone was out of God's will. How asinine.

Do you have your Rolls-Royce yet?

Are you a "little messiah" walking the earth?

Could you have paid for our salvation in Hell since you're a twice born man?

Have you written yourself that million dollar check yet?

If you cut yourself, does it hurt? If it does, you're out of God's will, St. John.

You absolutely baffle me! The Bible says to not argue with a divisive man, so here's my personal statement direct from a friend over on the eBay discussion boards:

What does having a rolls royce have to do with anything?

Am I a little messiah, walking the earth? No, but I am created in my Father's image, and I am his son.The same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead dwells in me?. Do you have any kids, they are in your image and likeness, aren't they? "Be imitators of God as dear children" That doesn't mean BE HIM. It means talk like Him and do things like he does. Do you? I am trying, day by day,and glory by glory.

As for the question of the apostles and those martyred. They gave up their lives. Paul made a choice and he told us about it in the epistles.

What about some child that is shot in the face? Satan comes to steal, kill and destroy. Did their parents know the word, pray and do the word of God? Did they have intercession made for them and their children? Did they stand on the word and believe God for protection?

Why? Why? Why? Well, wouldn't you like to know why, instead of criticizing every word I say. Perhaps I may just know some things that work. I was being cut down in life by several diseases and almost died three times. I was revived from respiratory arrest twice and nearly bled to death internally once. I was a doctors paycheck. But now I am not. I am healed. And I know some things from the word of God that work. I have witnessed the miraculous and have had angels protect me and my family. And it happens to many Christians as well. God is not respecting me over anyone else. Angelic protection is available to any christian and so is healing and long life (unless you fulfill a call of God that may require you to be a martyr. You still don't have to do it. But God honors the sacrificing of life, for others, or the Gospel). Many Christians throughout the bible and down through the ages were supernaturally delivered out of trouble or death. Is God playing favorites, or do some people have some extra help?Help like BELIEVING the word on healing and angelic deliverance. That is the first step. Just don't doubt. Then Help by obeying the word concerning the promises. Then pray and interceed for others and have them do the same for you. Put on the full armor of God. Confess the word of God concerning the promises. We are still not perfect, and the enemy can sneak in a deal blows, but at least we stand a fighting chance if we do the Word.