latest excuse for rising gas prices

[st. Worm]

I don't see how there's enough dead dinosaurs to have supplied all the oil we've used already. I don't think the oil companies should be allowed to trash the planet to get it either because (unless it's a renewable resource like water) eventually the oil will run out everywhere......then what?

As for gas prices; it's greed more than anything I think and American oil companies want to control ALL of it EVERYWHERE because whoever controls it....gets to price it.

[link]

But American oil companies don't control it. It is controlled by oil cartels. They ultimately determine the price by determining how much oil is allowed onto the market. It is not a free market since the cartels determine how much supply is allowed out.

The oil companies only can sell what they can purchase.

sw

[anti-hillbilly]

But American oil companies don't control it. It is controlled by oil cartels. They ultimately determine the price by determining how much oil is allowed onto the market. It is not a free market since the cartels determine how much supply is allowed out.

The oil companies only can sell what they can purchase.

sw

That's the rub; they've been trying to control it for years so they've kept trouble stirred up in a lot of foreign countries; they're instigators. Stir up trouble, go in and fix trouble, let the American taxpayer foot the bill for it (and have their kids die for it), then reap the profits. Of course they've been met with resistence where they weren't expecting any and you'd have thought they would have learned by now that when you mess with people's domestic policy you're gonna make enemies.

Just look at what our govt did to Iran. They were on the verge of becoming a democracy in the 1950s until our CIA helped the British overthrow their democratic government and install a brutal dictator to be their puppet; because of oil primarily though they came up with a few other "excuses". [Operation Ajax] Of course the Shah was overthrown by Islamic militants in 1979 and we now have an enemy in Iran. Saddam Hussein, another brutal dictator, was "one of our friends" that was sold chemical weapons (or what was needed to make them) by American companies; it seems like nobody wants to acknowlege that now a days. It all revolves around the oil.

On environmental policy, check out Cheney's 'classified' Energy Task Force [link]. It seems like everybody at the top right now is up to his or her eyeballs in either the oil business or the war contracting business. Even Condoleeza Rice is a former director at Cheveron; they were gonna name a oil tanker after her. But we're suppose to believe these people are interested in protecting the enviroment. I don't trust them to protect us from a terrorist attack (9/11 was on their watch) or the environment.

I don't think we can do a thing about any of this. We're the little nobodys out here and we'll have to pay whatever they charge us. They even control whether or not any alternatives make it to the market for us to puchase. I'd like to see that movie about the Death of the Electric Car. Of course it'd probably just frustrate me too.

It doesn't feel good to feel powerless.

Edited July 9, 2006 by anti-hillbilly

[st. Worm]

But American oil companies don't control it. It is controlled by oil cartels. They ultimately determine the price by determining how much oil is allowed onto the market. It is not a free market since the cartels determine how much supply is allowed out.

The oil companies only can sell what they can purchase.

sw

That's the rub; they've been trying to control it for years so they've kept trouble stirred up in a lot of foreign countries; they're instigators. Stir up trouble, go in and fix trouble, let the American taxpayer foot the bill for it (and have their kids die for it), then reap the profits. Of course they've been met with resistence where they weren't expecting any and you'd have thought they would have learned by now that when you mess with people's domestic policy you're gonna make enemies.

Just look at what our govt did to Iran. They were on the verge of becoming a democracy in the 1950s until our CIA helped the British overthrow their democratic government and install a brutal dictator to be their puppet; because of oil primarily though they came up with a few other "excuses". [Operation Ajax] Of course the Shah was overthrown by Islamic militants in 1979 and we now have an enemy in Iran. Saddam Hussein, another brutal dictator, was "one of our friends" that was sold chemical weapons (or what was needed to make them) by American companies; it seems like nobody wants to acknowlege that now a days. It all revolves around the oil.

On environmental policy, check out Cheney's 'classified' Energy Task Force [link]. It seems like everybody at the top right now is up to his or her eyeballs in either the oil business or the war contracting business. Even Condoleeza Rice is a former director at Cheveron; they were gonna name a oil tanker after her. But we're suppose to believe these people are interested in protecting the enviroment. I don't trust them to protect us from a terrorist attack (9/11 was on their watch) or the environment.

I don't think we can do a thing about any of this. We're the little nobodys out here and we'll have to pay whatever they charge us. They even control whether or not any alternatives make it to the market for us to puchase. I'd like to see that movie about the Death of the Electric Car. Of course it'd probably just frustrate me too.

It doesn't feel good to feel powerless.

Brother, you've been watching too many conspiracy movies. Did you also hear the one about the car that ran on water that was invented but the inventor was killed by the big oil companies?

[anti-hillbilly]

But American oil companies don't control it. It is controlled by oil cartels. They ultimately determine the price by determining how much oil is allowed onto the market. It is not a free market since the cartels determine how much supply is allowed out.

The oil companies only can sell what they can purchase.

sw

That's the rub; they've been trying to control it for years so they've kept trouble stirred up in a lot of foreign countries; they're instigators. Stir up trouble, go in and fix trouble, let the American taxpayer foot the bill for it (and have their kids die for it), then reap the profits. Of course they've been met with resistence where they weren't expecting any and you'd have thought they would have learned by now that when you mess with people's domestic policy you're gonna make enemies.

Just look at what our govt did to Iran. They were on the verge of becoming a democracy in the 1950s until our CIA helped the British overthrow their democratic government and install a brutal dictator to be their puppet; because of oil primarily though they came up with a few other "excuses". [Operation Ajax] Of course the Shah was overthrown by Islamic militants in 1979 and we now have an enemy in Iran. Saddam Hussein, another brutal dictator, was "one of our friends" that was sold chemical weapons (or what was needed to make them) by American companies; it seems like nobody wants to acknowlege that now a days. It all revolves around the oil.

On environmental policy, check out Cheney's 'classified' Energy Task Force [link]. It seems like everybody at the top right now is up to his or her eyeballs in either the oil business or the war contracting business. Even Condoleeza Rice is a former director at Cheveron; they were gonna name a oil tanker after her. But we're suppose to believe these people are interested in protecting the enviroment. I don't trust them to protect us from a terrorist attack (9/11 was on their watch) or the environment.

I don't think we can do a thing about any of this. We're the little nobodys out here and we'll have to pay whatever they charge us. They even control whether or not any alternatives make it to the market for us to puchase. I'd like to see that movie about the Death of the Electric Car. Of course it'd probably just frustrate me too.

It doesn't feel good to feel powerless.

Brother, you've been watching too many conspiracy movies. Did you also hear the one about the car that ran on water that was invented but the inventor was killed by the big oil companies?

You can verify everything in my post if you would take the time. I don't go to conspiracy sites and I don't have to, the encyclopedia, news clippings and documentaries are available and easy to access and track down thanks to the internet. There are enough real life dishonest business practices and dirty politics going on that I don't know who has time to waste on "conspiracy theories".

[st. Worm]

But American oil companies don't control it. It is controlled by oil cartels. They ultimately determine the price by determining how much oil is allowed onto the market. It is not a free market since the cartels determine how much supply is allowed out.

The oil companies only can sell what they can purchase.

sw

That's the rub; they've been trying to control it for years so they've kept trouble stirred up in a lot of foreign countries; they're instigators. Stir up trouble, go in and fix trouble, let the American taxpayer foot the bill for it (and have their kids die for it), then reap the profits. Of course they've been met with resistence where they weren't expecting any and you'd have thought they would have learned by now that when you mess with people's domestic policy you're gonna make enemies.

Just look at what our govt did to Iran. They were on the verge of becoming a democracy in the 1950s until our CIA helped the British overthrow their democratic government and install a brutal dictator to be their puppet; because of oil primarily though they came up with a few other "excuses". [Operation Ajax] Of course the Shah was overthrown by Islamic militants in 1979 and we now have an enemy in Iran. Saddam Hussein, another brutal dictator, was "one of our friends" that was sold chemical weapons (or what was needed to make them) by American companies; it seems like nobody wants to acknowlege that now a days. It all revolves around the oil.

On environmental policy, check out Cheney's 'classified' Energy Task Force [link]. It seems like everybody at the top right now is up to his or her eyeballs in either the oil business or the war contracting business. Even Condoleeza Rice is a former director at Cheveron; they were gonna name a oil tanker after her. But we're suppose to believe these people are interested in protecting the enviroment. I don't trust them to protect us from a terrorist attack (9/11 was on their watch) or the environment.

I don't think we can do a thing about any of this. We're the little nobodys out here and we'll have to pay whatever they charge us. They even control whether or not any alternatives make it to the market for us to puchase. I'd like to see that movie about the Death of the Electric Car. Of course it'd probably just frustrate me too.

It doesn't feel good to feel powerless.

Brother, you've been watching too many conspiracy movies. Did you also hear the one about the car that ran on water that was invented but the inventor was killed by the big oil companies?

You can verify everything in my post if you would take the time. I don't go to conspiracy sites and I don't have to, the encyclopedia, news clippings and documentaries are available and easy to access and track down thanks to the internet. There are enough real life dishonest business practices and dirty politics going on that I don't know who has time to waste on "conspiracy theories".

Even if I am willing to grant everything you say is factual, it does not support your premise. For example, Condi Rice has been on numerous boards of large companies. ALL large corporations have famous individuals on their boards. Its an important position, but board members normally aren't involved with the daily operations of companies. It really is insignificant.

sw

[anti-hillbilly]

But American oil companies don't control it. It is controlled by oil cartels. They ultimately determine the price by determining how much oil is allowed onto the market. It is not a free market since the cartels determine how much supply is allowed out.

The oil companies only can sell what they can purchase.

sw

That's the rub; they've been trying to control it for years so they've kept trouble stirred up in a lot of foreign countries; they're instigators. Stir up trouble, go in and fix trouble, let the American taxpayer foot the bill for it (and have their kids die for it), then reap the profits. Of course they've been met with resistence where they weren't expecting any and you'd have thought they would have learned by now that when you mess with people's domestic policy you're gonna make enemies.

Just look at what our govt did to Iran. They were on the verge of becoming a democracy in the 1950s until our CIA helped the British overthrow their democratic government and install a brutal dictator to be their puppet; because of oil primarily though they came up with a few other "excuses". [Operation Ajax] Of course the Shah was overthrown by Islamic militants in 1979 and we now have an enemy in Iran. Saddam Hussein, another brutal dictator, was "one of our friends" that was sold chemical weapons (or what was needed to make them) by American companies; it seems like nobody wants to acknowlege that now a days. It all revolves around the oil.

On environmental policy, check out Cheney's 'classified' Energy Task Force [link]. It seems like everybody at the top right now is up to his or her eyeballs in either the oil business or the war contracting business. Even Condoleeza Rice is a former director at Cheveron; they were gonna name a oil tanker after her. But we're suppose to believe these people are interested in protecting the enviroment. I don't trust them to protect us from a terrorist attack (9/11 was on their watch) or the environment.

I don't think we can do a thing about any of this. We're the little nobodys out here and we'll have to pay whatever they charge us. They even control whether or not any alternatives make it to the market for us to puchase. I'd like to see that movie about the Death of the Electric Car. Of course it'd probably just frustrate me too.

It doesn't feel good to feel powerless.

Brother, you've been watching too many conspiracy movies. Did you also hear the one about the car that ran on water that was invented but the inventor was killed by the big oil companies?

You can verify everything in my post if you would take the time. I don't go to conspiracy sites and I don't have to, the encyclopedia, news clippings and documentaries are available and easy to access and track down thanks to the internet. There are enough real life dishonest business practices and dirty politics going on that I don't know who has time to waste on "conspiracy theories".

Even if I am willing to grant everything you say is factual, it does not support your premise. For example, Condi Rice has been on numerous boards of large companies. ALL large corporations have famous individuals on their boards. Its an important position, but board members normally aren't involved with the daily operations of companies. It really is insignificant.

sw

Insignificant, are you kidding! OF COURSE IT'S SIGNIFICANT!!!

It makes a major impact on our foreign and domestic policies when those at the top of our govt have held positions within OIL companies and war profiteering companies. Who do you think paid for putting them into office in the first place? Talk about buying influence.

[st. Worm]

But American oil companies don't control it. It is controlled by oil cartels. They ultimately determine the price by determining how much oil is allowed onto the market. It is not a free market since the cartels determine how much supply is allowed out.

The oil companies only can sell what they can purchase.

sw

That's the rub; they've been trying to control it for years so they've kept trouble stirred up in a lot of foreign countries; they're instigators. Stir up trouble, go in and fix trouble, let the American taxpayer foot the bill for it (and have their kids die for it), then reap the profits. Of course they've been met with resistence where they weren't expecting any and you'd have thought they would have learned by now that when you mess with people's domestic policy you're gonna make enemies.

Just look at what our govt did to Iran. They were on the verge of becoming a democracy in the 1950s until our CIA helped the British overthrow their democratic government and install a brutal dictator to be their puppet; because of oil primarily though they came up with a few other "excuses". [Operation Ajax] Of course the Shah was overthrown by Islamic militants in 1979 and we now have an enemy in Iran. Saddam Hussein, another brutal dictator, was "one of our friends" that was sold chemical weapons (or what was needed to make them) by American companies; it seems like nobody wants to acknowlege that now a days. It all revolves around the oil.

On environmental policy, check out Cheney's 'classified' Energy Task Force [link]. It seems like everybody at the top right now is up to his or her eyeballs in either the oil business or the war contracting business. Even Condoleeza Rice is a former director at Cheveron; they were gonna name a oil tanker after her. But we're suppose to believe these people are interested in protecting the enviroment. I don't trust them to protect us from a terrorist attack (9/11 was on their watch) or the environment.

I don't think we can do a thing about any of this. We're the little nobodys out here and we'll have to pay whatever they charge us. They even control whether or not any alternatives make it to the market for us to puchase. I'd like to see that movie about the Death of the Electric Car. Of course it'd probably just frustrate me too.

It doesn't feel good to feel powerless.

Brother, you've been watching too many conspiracy movies. Did you also hear the one about the car that ran on water that was invented but the inventor was killed by the big oil companies?

You can verify everything in my post if you would take the time. I don't go to conspiracy sites and I don't have to, the encyclopedia, news clippings and documentaries are available and easy to access and track down thanks to the internet. There are enough real life dishonest business practices and dirty politics going on that I don't know who has time to waste on "conspiracy theories".

Even if I am willing to grant everything you say is factual, it does not support your premise. For example, Condi Rice has been on numerous boards of large companies. ALL large corporations have famous individuals on their boards. Its an important position, but board members normally aren't involved with the daily operations of companies. It really is insignificant.

sw

Insignificant, are you kidding! OF COURSE IT'S SIGNIFICANT!!!

It makes a major impact on our foreign and domestic policies when those at the top of our govt have held positions within OIL companies and war profiteering companies. Who do you think paid for putting them into office in the first place? Talk about buying influence.

Not kidding. Being on a board like that is almost an honorary position. Do you think the other board members would allow one individual to act imprudently for their own self interest completely unrestrained? As I said, famous people literally rotate on and off boards of large corporations. It not that big a deal. Many serve on several boards at once. You are making something out of nothing.

sw

ps, I am being paid by Haliburton to post this stuff!

[anti-hillbilly]

But American oil companies don't control it. It is controlled by oil cartels. They ultimately determine the price by determining how much oil is allowed onto the market. It is not a free market since the cartels determine how much supply is allowed out.

The oil companies only can sell what they can purchase.

sw

That's the rub; they've been trying to control it for years so they've kept trouble stirred up in a lot of foreign countries; they're instigators. Stir up trouble, go in and fix trouble, let the American taxpayer foot the bill for it (and have their kids die for it), then reap the profits. Of course they've been met with resistence where they weren't expecting any and you'd have thought they would have learned by now that when you mess with people's domestic policy you're gonna make enemies.

Just look at what our govt did to Iran. They were on the verge of becoming a democracy in the 1950s until our CIA helped the British overthrow their democratic government and install a brutal dictator to be their puppet; because of oil primarily though they came up with a few other "excuses". [Operation Ajax] Of course the Shah was overthrown by Islamic militants in 1979 and we now have an enemy in Iran. Saddam Hussein, another brutal dictator, was "one of our friends" that was sold chemical weapons (or what was needed to make them) by American companies; it seems like nobody wants to acknowlege that now a days. It all revolves around the oil.

On environmental policy, check out Cheney's 'classified' Energy Task Force [link]. It seems like everybody at the top right now is up to his or her eyeballs in either the oil business or the war contracting business. Even Condoleeza Rice is a former director at Cheveron; they were gonna name a oil tanker after her. But we're suppose to believe these people are interested in protecting the enviroment. I don't trust them to protect us from a terrorist attack (9/11 was on their watch) or the environment.

I don't think we can do a thing about any of this. We're the little nobodys out here and we'll have to pay whatever they charge us. They even control whether or not any alternatives make it to the market for us to puchase. I'd like to see that movie about the Death of the Electric Car. Of course it'd probably just frustrate me too.

It doesn't feel good to feel powerless.

Brother, you've been watching too many conspiracy movies. Did you also hear the one about the car that ran on water that was invented but the inventor was killed by the big oil companies?

You can verify everything in my post if you would take the time. I don't go to conspiracy sites and I don't have to, the encyclopedia, news clippings and documentaries are available and easy to access and track down thanks to the internet. There are enough real life dishonest business practices and dirty politics going on that I don't know who has time to waste on "conspiracy theories".

Even if I am willing to grant everything you say is factual, it does not support your premise. For example, Condi Rice has been on numerous boards of large companies. ALL large corporations have famous individuals on their boards. Its an important position, but board members normally aren't involved with the daily operations of companies. It really is insignificant.

sw

Insignificant, are you kidding! OF COURSE IT'S SIGNIFICANT!!!

It makes a major impact on our foreign and domestic policies when those at the top of our govt have held positions within OIL companies and war profiteering companies. Who do you think paid for putting them into office in the first place? Talk about buying influence.

Not kidding. Being on a board like that is almost an honorary position. Do you think the other board members would allow one individual to act imprudently for their own self interest completely unrestrained? As I said, famous people literally rotate on and off boards of large corporations. It not that big a deal. Many serve on several boards at once. You are making something out of nothing.

sw

ps, I am being paid by Haliburton to post this stuff!

No I'm not; you are attempting to make nothing out of something and it's no laughing matter. We're not talking about one individual either we're about several people who were not holding just 'honorary positions'. You should start verifying these statements you're making; you'll surprise youself. (Did you even read those links I gave you? They didn't come from the DNC either.)

You don't have a problem with oil executives meeting to determine our environmental policies and keeping the particulars of that meeting secret from the public? Refer back to this [link]

Here's another [link]

Of course they're all insisting that they did no such thing. I don't believe them.

[st. Worm]

But American oil companies don't control it. It is controlled by oil cartels. They ultimately determine the price by determining how much oil is allowed onto the market. It is not a free market since the cartels determine how much supply is allowed out.

The oil companies only can sell what they can purchase.

sw

That's the rub; they've been trying to control it for years so they've kept trouble stirred up in a lot of foreign countries; they're instigators. Stir up trouble, go in and fix trouble, let the American taxpayer foot the bill for it (and have their kids die for it), then reap the profits. Of course they've been met with resistence where they weren't expecting any and you'd have thought they would have learned by now that when you mess with people's domestic policy you're gonna make enemies.

Just look at what our govt did to Iran. They were on the verge of becoming a democracy in the 1950s until our CIA helped the British overthrow their democratic government and install a brutal dictator to be their puppet; because of oil primarily though they came up with a few other "excuses". [Operation Ajax] Of course the Shah was overthrown by Islamic militants in 1979 and we now have an enemy in Iran. Saddam Hussein, another brutal dictator, was "one of our friends" that was sold chemical weapons (or what was needed to make them) by American companies; it seems like nobody wants to acknowlege that now a days. It all revolves around the oil.

On environmental policy, check out Cheney's 'classified' Energy Task Force [link]. It seems like everybody at the top right now is up to his or her eyeballs in either the oil business or the war contracting business. Even Condoleeza Rice is a former director at Cheveron; they were gonna name a oil tanker after her. But we're suppose to believe these people are interested in protecting the enviroment. I don't trust them to protect us from a terrorist attack (9/11 was on their watch) or the environment.

I don't think we can do a thing about any of this. We're the little nobodys out here and we'll have to pay whatever they charge us. They even control whether or not any alternatives make it to the market for us to puchase. I'd like to see that movie about the Death of the Electric Car. Of course it'd probably just frustrate me too.

It doesn't feel good to feel powerless.

Brother, you've been watching too many conspiracy movies. Did you also hear the one about the car that ran on water that was invented but the inventor was killed by the big oil companies?

You can verify everything in my post if you would take the time. I don't go to conspiracy sites and I don't have to, the encyclopedia, news clippings and documentaries are available and easy to access and track down thanks to the internet. There are enough real life dishonest business practices and dirty politics going on that I don't know who has time to waste on "conspiracy theories".

Even if I am willing to grant everything you say is factual, it does not support your premise. For example, Condi Rice has been on numerous boards of large companies. ALL large corporations have famous individuals on their boards. Its an important position, but board members normally aren't involved with the daily operations of companies. It really is insignificant.

sw

Insignificant, are you kidding! OF COURSE IT'S SIGNIFICANT!!!

It makes a major impact on our foreign and domestic policies when those at the top of our govt have held positions within OIL companies and war profiteering companies. Who do you think paid for putting them into office in the first place? Talk about buying influence.

Not kidding. Being on a board like that is almost an honorary position. Do you think the other board members would allow one individual to act imprudently for their own self interest completely unrestrained? As I said, famous people literally rotate on and off boards of large corporations. It not that big a deal. Many serve on several boards at once. You are making something out of nothing.

sw

ps, I am being paid by Haliburton to post this stuff!

No I'm not; you are attempting to make nothing out of something and it's no laughing matter. We're not talking about one individual either we're about several people who were not holding just 'honorary positions'. You should start verifying these statements you're making; you'll surprise youself. (Did you even read those links I gave you? They didn't come from the DNC either.)

You don't have a problem with oil executives meeting to determine our environmental policies and keeping the particulars of that meeting secret from the public? Refer back to this [link]

Here's another [link]

Of course they're all insisting that they did no such thing. I don't believe them.

If the oil companies are in charge of environmental policies then they are clearly acting against their own self interest because the government still does not allow much domestic drilling for new oil. So much for that.

sw

[anti-hillbilly]

But American oil companies don't control it. It is controlled by oil cartels. They ultimately determine the price by determining how much oil is allowed onto the market. It is not a free market since the cartels determine how much supply is allowed out.

The oil companies only can sell what they can purchase.

sw

That's the rub; they've been trying to control it for years so they've kept trouble stirred up in a lot of foreign countries; they're instigators. Stir up trouble, go in and fix trouble, let the American taxpayer foot the bill for it (and have their kids die for it), then reap the profits. Of course they've been met with resistence where they weren't expecting any and you'd have thought they would have learned by now that when you mess with people's domestic policy you're gonna make enemies.

Just look at what our govt did to Iran. They were on the verge of becoming a democracy in the 1950s until our CIA helped the British overthrow their democratic government and install a brutal dictator to be their puppet; because of oil primarily though they came up with a few other "excuses". [Operation Ajax] Of course the Shah was overthrown by Islamic militants in 1979 and we now have an enemy in Iran. Saddam Hussein, another brutal dictator, was "one of our friends" that was sold chemical weapons (or what was needed to make them) by American companies; it seems like nobody wants to acknowlege that now a days. It all revolves around the oil.

On environmental policy, check out Cheney's 'classified' Energy Task Force [link]. It seems like everybody at the top right now is up to his or her eyeballs in either the oil business or the war contracting business. Even Condoleeza Rice is a former director at Cheveron; they were gonna name a oil tanker after her. But we're suppose to believe these people are interested in protecting the enviroment. I don't trust them to protect us from a terrorist attack (9/11 was on their watch) or the environment.

I don't think we can do a thing about any of this. We're the little nobodys out here and we'll have to pay whatever they charge us. They even control whether or not any alternatives make it to the market for us to puchase. I'd like to see that movie about the Death of the Electric Car. Of course it'd probably just frustrate me too.

It doesn't feel good to feel powerless.

Brother, you've been watching too many conspiracy movies. Did you also hear the one about the car that ran on water that was invented but the inventor was killed by the big oil companies?

You can verify everything in my post if you would take the time. I don't go to conspiracy sites and I don't have to, the encyclopedia, news clippings and documentaries are available and easy to access and track down thanks to the internet. There are enough real life dishonest business practices and dirty politics going on that I don't know who has time to waste on "conspiracy theories".

Even if I am willing to grant everything you say is factual, it does not support your premise. For example, Condi Rice has been on numerous boards of large companies. ALL large corporations have famous individuals on their boards. Its an important position, but board members normally aren't involved with the daily operations of companies. It really is insignificant.

sw

Insignificant, are you kidding! OF COURSE IT'S SIGNIFICANT!!!

It makes a major impact on our foreign and domestic policies when those at the top of our govt have held positions within OIL companies and war profiteering companies. Who do you think paid for putting them into office in the first place? Talk about buying influence.

Not kidding. Being on a board like that is almost an honorary position. Do you think the other board members would allow one individual to act imprudently for their own self interest completely unrestrained? As I said, famous people literally rotate on and off boards of large corporations. It not that big a deal. Many serve on several boards at once. You are making something out of nothing.

sw

ps, I am being paid by Haliburton to post this stuff!

No I'm not; you are attempting to make nothing out of something and it's no laughing matter. We're not talking about one individual either we're about several people who were not holding just 'honorary positions'. You should start verifying these statements you're making; you'll surprise youself. (Did you even read those links I gave you? They didn't come from the DNC either.)

You don't have a problem with oil executives meeting to determine our environmental policies and keeping the particulars of that meeting secret from the public? Refer back to this [link]

Here's another [link]

Of course they're all insisting that they did no such thing. I don't believe them.

If the oil companies are in charge of environmental policies then they are clearly acting against their own self interest because the government still does not allow much domestic drilling for new oil. So much for that.

sw

Well they're getting a lot of opposition; that's why they were having to testify before congress and deny, deny, deny.

Edited July 9, 2006 by anti-hillbilly