charasmatic churches

[Floatingaxe]

I too have always been in the Penecostal demomation,My boss is the wife of a Bapist minster.she says that *we*do not show God respect..I always laugh and say"well,if it makes me love my Lord more to give him praise and I feel good doing it,whats wrong with feeling good.I say people go to concerts and they raise lighters and scream at secular music.why can't we raise our hands and praise God".besides the bible is full of verses that say"SHOUT TO THE LORD"

Amen!! God wants us to Praise Him with all our beings! He wants our best praise! He deserves it all!

Now THIS thread is refreshing!

[LadyRaven]

Lady Raven,

I started to read your entry here and I'm a little puzzled as to why you think that just because it is not what you think is comfortable to you that there should be a question as to how to worship our Lord. He said to praise in spirit and in truth, well your spirit may not want to praise a certain way or worship at His feet eating some carpet while you are at it. Paul and Silas were praising and singing at midnight and I guess God kind of liked it cause He unlocked the jail doors and set them free. We are free from the law but He deserves all the praise and all our worship at all times. He set us free from the law and now we live under His wonderful grace!! We are free to praise Him. Praise Him with your whole heart and your hands will go up in surrender to Him. This is exactly what He wants from us.

With Love

My point was that what was comfy for me is irrelavent. God didn't ask me to gather in a group of people to "have a good time" or to "feel" anything. Now, if I am truly worshipping these things can happen by default, but they are not the goal. The goal is to please God.

I do believe that it matters what we do. Life is worship, but at the same time, the regular assembly is a whole other kettle of fish. He commanded it and he has given some guidelines. I think I should strive to find the answers to what pleases Him if I want to do so.

If I were married and I knew that the best way to please my husband was to be up each morning when he left for work and to give him back massages after a hard days work...and I decided to show my love for him by sleeping late so that I could be rested up to fix stuff around the house (so he wouldn't have to on the weekend) or baking cookies when he was on a diet...I'd be suprised if he would be pleased by my actions...even if my heart was in the right place. Trust me, I had a husband who had no idea how to speak the language of "quality time" and "meaningful chatter/banter"...he spoke "acts of service (via working alot so he could speak his other language) and gift giving." I could not have cared less about all the "stuff' we had. He could not have cared less about whether we ate dinner as a family. His new wife is pleased by his behaviour and they are happy. We were not.

There is also a big difference between what God requires in corporate worship and what can happen spontaneously at other times. I have done many things at Christian concerts that I'm not convinced should be my modus operandi for corporate worship (for various reasons). I did praise God and it was worship to an extent but not the same as what went on weekly. I praise God when I walk in nature, but I dont think that is appropriate for weekly assemblies. There is no scriptural precedent for that.

I see things in Scripture like the guy grabbing the ark of the covenant and various things like that and get the impression that God has His own goals for worship and when we go outside of them we displease Him. I KNOW David pleased the Lord when he danced, the Bible says so. And yet...the corporate worship He instituted was not really condusive to that sort of thing on a weekly basis. What am I to think about that? What does that tell me that God wants?

[LadyRaven]

Lady Raven,

One more thing the main thing that pleases God is FAITH. If we do not faith then we cannot pleases God. Our works can do nothing to move God only faith does but resides in our praises!!

With Love

Faith without works is dead faith. If our faith does not produce any evidence it does not exist.

Faith produces obedience to God. Worshipping God the way he prescribes, whatever that is, is obedience. Striving to please God by doing what He wants is an act of faith. It is not done of fear, nor is it done to gain brownie points. I want to please Him with all my being because I love Him with all my being.

If God told me to do something I absolutely hated doing, I would do it because it would make Him happy in everyday life. How much more should I feel thus when I go to assemble for the express purpose of worshipping and service and praise?

[billie]

Well, if I can't do it for brownie points, then how about just for brownies?

Sorry, just a bit of comedy relief.

[LadyRaven]

Well, if I can't do it for brownie points, then how about just for brownies?

Sorry, just a bit of comedy relief.

I'll do anything that isn't a sin for brownies hun....

I can stand on one leg, hop like a one legged chicken and pat my head while chewing gum if you want...wheres the brownies?

[billie]

Ok, now I'm hungry. What were we talking about? When I see the word brownies, I just go into the zone.....

[billie]

I go to a charismatic church. I'm not off the deep end.

[LadyRaven]

Charismatic churches have gone off the deep end. ... in theology, doctrine, practices, and a number of other unbiblical ideas.

There are some, however there are ones which are following their interpretation of scripture and, if their interpretation is correct, they are doing it well, decently and in order as scripture says.

[Guest richied]

i like david

not because he was likeable

but because God called him a man after my own heart

why... NObody praised God harder than him

Chronicles 15:29 And it came to pass, as the ark of the covenant of the LORD came to the city of David, that Michal, the daughter of Saul looking out at a window saw king David dancing and playing:.......

and the tongues don't get me started on the tongues..

Acts 10:46For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

47Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

love it love it

[sierra21]

I dunno as much as I try to stop myself from thinking that speaking in tongues is weird, I still think it. I've only seen someone do it once and it freaked me out. I think I have a good relationship with Jesus yet, when people go kinda weird in church it creeps me out. I know deep down that I will never take it to that extreme (although I have been brought to tears once, but thats a whole other story). I don't know, I'm not trying to offend anyone, just saying that I feel uncomfortable around the extremes.