Perfection, Beauty and Love

[pointer]

It has been said that one can assume there is a God through the perfection, beauty and love that exists, quite independently of any verbal revelation that may exist. Where would one look for perfection, beauty and love that might lead one to believe that there is a God, and how might it impinge on the behaviour of humanity?

Edited July 22, 2006 by pointer

[billie]

The first part of your question: the Bible, in Psalms, says look at nature. All creation declares God's nature. The second part, I don't understand what you're asking.

[larryt]

It has been said that one can assume there is a God through the perfection, beauty and love that exists, quite independently of any verbal revelation that may exist. Where would one look for perfection, beauty and love that might lead one to believe that there is a God, and how might it impinge of the behaviour of humanity?

In the bible and in particular the life of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Apart for Him there is nothing of perfection, beauty and love. The earth as you see it is fallen and groaning waiting for the redemption.

Ro 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

Ro 8:23 And not only [they], but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body.

LT

[pointer]

The first part of your question: the Bible, in Psalms, says look at nature. All creation declares God's nature.

What do you understand about God from nature?

[billie]

That he's orderly, loves variety, intelligent beyond comprehension, works through processes, is loving, wants to provide...

[pointer]

That he's orderly, loves variety, intelligent beyond comprehension, works through processes, is loving, wants to provide...

Thanks. The second part of the OP contained a typo, which I have now corrected- apologies if that was the problem. How might or should the knowledge of these divine characteristics affect the behaviour of humanity, do you think?

[Openly Curious]

It has been said that one can assume there is a God through the perfection, beauty and love that exists, quite independently of any verbal revelation that may exist. Where would one look for perfection, beauty and love that might lead one to believe that there is a God, and how might it impinge on the behaviour of humanity?

Hello pointer,

Well I just don't assume it has been said that there is a God that exists because of the creation itself. I know that God exist "because" of the creation itself that is all around me. I know there has to be a Creator to all that I see and cannot see. And I now it naturally within myself without being taught it to me from God's word. For nature does teach it to me naturally. Some people don't like to retain that knowledge taught to them naturally and will reject their being a Creator plain and simple. And those that do this naturally will begin to worship the creation itself instead of the one who created it all the Creator of heaven and earth. This is big mistake alot of people make.

If one naturally like to retain the knowledge that there is a Creator then that knowledge will ultimately lead that person to seek out more about the Creator and this leads them to the bible and to church and to church leaders and teachers where they will come to know more of who this Creator is as they seek to yield to Him and want to worship Him as the one true God. We learn more of who the Creator is through God's written word and the natural laws of nature leads us to Him if we will but retain that knowledge naturally taught to us in creation itself that is around us.

And as we worship and seek and learn more about our Creator then he changes us for His glory and we become partakers of His divine nature and we want to bear His image and be like Him as He is our Lord, Savior and our Master. He changes us and makes us a new creature in Him and all things become new as old things are past away. blessings

OC

[billie]

I agree with OC, that these things should be signs that lead a person to question more deeply the nature of God, to cause a person to want to know more of Him. If a person truly seeks after Him, He will reveal Himself through experiences, other people, the Bible, church, etc. The more we seek, the more He'll reveal.

[pointer]

It has been said that one can assume there is a God through the perfection, beauty and love that exists, quite independently of any verbal revelation that may exist. Where would one look for perfection, beauty and love that might lead one to believe that there is a God, and how might it impinge on the behaviour of humanity?

Hello pointer,

Well I just don't assume it has been said that there is a God that exists because of the creation itself. I know that God exist "because" of the creation itself that is all around me. I know there has to be a Creator to all that I see and cannot see. And I now it naturally within myself without being taught it to me from God's word. For nature does teach it to me naturally. Some people don't like to retain that knowledge taught to them naturally and will reject their being a Creator plain and simple. And those that do this naturally will begin to worship the creation itself instead of the one who created it all the Creator of heaven and earth. This is big mistake alot of people make.

I agree, OC. Paul wrote:

'Since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities

[pointer]

I agree with OC, that these things should be signs that lead a person to question more deeply the nature of God, to cause a person to want to know more of Him. If a person truly seeks after Him, He will reveal Himself through experiences, other people, the Bible, church, etc. The more we seek, the more He'll reveal.

Yes, as Jesus promised; "Seek, and you will find."