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[Floatingaxe]

The Church is not the authority! God and His Word is! That is where you go off the track. The Church is the body of Christ, and that is it! The authority is the Holy Spirit through the written Word. Period. The Church of Christ in the world has unity.

[Pax]

The Church is not the authority! God and His Word is! That is where you go off the track. The Church is the body of Christ, and that is it! The authority is the Holy Spirit through the written Word. Period. The Church of Christ in the world has unity.

If we go by your interpretation of what the Church is, then why all the different Protestant Denominations???? Why can one denomination of Protestants read the Bible and take one theological stance, and then the next denomination read the Bible and take a completely different stance??? If the Bible is clear then why all the differences??

There has to be a teaching authority to guide the Church or else you have mass confusion and the truth is lost. Look what is going on right now within Christianity. Anglicans just elected a Female Bishop who is in favor of homosexuality and has no problem with homosexuals being ordained within the Church. There is no grey area on the subject of Homosexuality within the Bible....it is clearly a sin. This, as you would put it, is way off track. Read Mathew 16:18-19. Christ makes it very clear, there will only be one Church.....not 28,000. This makes complete logical sense.

[Floatingaxe]

You seem to be speaking of MANY churches. I speak of the ONE Church..the Church of Christ, worldwide. That is a unified body--united by the Holy Spirit indwelling us, and we are one in Christ. There are millions of us!

[vox]

I am sorry to say that you are a Nestorian heretic if that is what you believe.

What is a Nestorian and why am I a heretic? I am only going by scripture. This Immaculate Conception is not scriptural in the least.

God will not accept people adoring anyone or anything other than HIM. Period. Anything other than HIM is idolatry. Pretty dangerous ground.

I said 'IF' you subscribe to the Nestorian heresy you are a heretic. If you go by Scriptures you would also have understood my explanation which is all based on Scriptures.

My interpreter is the Holy Spirit!

That's what everyone has been claiming. How do you know for sure it is the Holy Spirit? How do you know you are right and others are wrong?

Assuming you are right, then the Holy Spirit must have been asleep for almost 2000 years only to wake recently and guide you?

Assuming you are right how come there are so many different interpretations amongst the non Catholic Christians and no one seems to be able to agree on anything? Is the Holy Spirit teaching different truth to different people? Even within this thread there are varrying degree of opinions amongst you. Who is right?

I am still waiting for the answer to my question:

How do you reconcile 2 Timothy 3:16-17 to John 21:25?

Is it ever going to be answered or there really is dishamorny according to non Catholic Christians' interpretation of the Bible?

[vox]

You seem to be speaking of MANY churches. I speak of the ONE Church..the Church of Christ, worldwide. That is a unified body--united by the Holy Spirit indwelling us, and we are one in Christ. There are millions of us!

He is not speaking of many churches. Though I am not quite sure what unity and what ONE Church you are referring to, since there are well over 40,000 non Catholic denominations and each claiming to have the truth.

Kindly answer the last question:

How do you reconcile 2Timothy 3:16-17 to John 21:25?

After all you brought up 2Tim3:16-17 as the basis for relying solely on the Bible.

Edited August 2, 2006 by vox

[EricH]

OK. This thread has ceased in its usefulness and ability to stay on track. I am closing it