I have a question about Israeli Kings and The Christ

[Guest David Escobar]

How long did the influence of King David impact Israel? What I mean is I hear that David and Soloman etc were very wealthy men. I wanna know Where they able to preserve that wealth and pass it down to their next generations? If Christ was the son of David then wouldnt he inherit their wealth naturally? If not then I guess that King David lost all of his money and political influence before Christ and that explains why Christ was said to be poor? Why was he poor? Wasnt he supposed to inherit nations or something like that?

someone please explain

[billie]

All the wealth of Israel was carried away by the Babylonions when they invaded them. It's all in the Bible, the whole sordid tale.

[Guest David Escobar]

This is a lil sketchy But didnt Isaiah say that "Immanuel" will inherit the nations and rule with an iron sceptre or whatever? Wasnt Immanuel,David the Christ all the same? When Christ supposedly came they say he was killed by his own and just inherited grief basically? If the Babylonions took all the wealth then what was he gonna inherit if they had already taken it? So somebody is lying then huh?

[billie]

Isaiah was prophesying something that hasn't happened yet. Jesus will come again. Then He'll inherit this world and rule. Immanuel is Christ, not David.

[Eagle76]

How long did the influence of King David impact Israel? What I mean is I hear that David and Soloman etc were very wealthy men. I wanna know Where they able to preserve that wealth and pass it down to their next generations? If Christ was the son of David then wouldnt he inherit their wealth naturally? If not then I guess that King David lost all of his money and political influence before Christ and that explains why Christ was said to be poor? Why was he poor? Wasnt he supposed to inherit nations or something like that?

someone please explain

Christ was God made flesh according to John .The bible called him son of David because the father who took care of him when he was young is joseph the one who's son of David

God said every thing is for him but he asked people to bring in his house tithe and offering.It's doesn't mean that God isn't whealthy.

Prophesy said that when messhai will come he'll be poor ,that why God himself come under joseph's roof he who was not rich.Any question ,ask i'll answer with scriptures next time .God bless you

[Eagle76]

How long did the influence of King David impact Israel? What I mean is I hear that David and Soloman etc were very wealthy men. I wanna know Where they able to preserve that wealth and pass it down to their next generations? If Christ was the son of David then wouldnt he inherit their wealth naturally? If not then I guess that King David lost all of his money and political influence before Christ and that explains why Christ was said to be poor? Why was he poor? Wasnt he supposed to inherit nations or something like that?

someone please explain

Christ was God made flesh according to John .The bible called him son of David because the father who took care of him when he was young is joseph the one who's son of David

God said every thing is for him but he asked people to bring in his house tithe and offering.It's doesn't mean that God isn't whealthy.

Prophesy said that when messhai will come he'll be poor ,that why God himself come under joseph's roof he who was not rich.Any question ,ask i'll answer with scriptures next time .God bless you

[nebula]

How long did the influence of King David impact Israel? What I mean is I hear that David and Soloman etc were very wealthy men. I wanna know Where they able to preserve that wealth and pass it down to their next generations? If Christ was the son of David then wouldnt he inherit their wealth naturally? If not then I guess that King David lost all of his money and political influence before Christ and that explains why Christ was said to be poor? Why was he poor? Wasnt he supposed to inherit nations or something like that?

I take it you never read the Old Testament?

Early in the reign of Solomon's son Rehoboam, 10 of the tribes of Israel rebelled against him and established a separate kingdom. The line of David continued to reign the Kingdom of Judah (as it then became) until Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians. As billielovesdarrin pointed out, the wealth of the kingdom - of the king - was taken to Babylon.

When the people of Judah - now called Jews - returned to the land of Israel, the throne of kings was never restored. The royal family became the same as the rest of the community - without title, rank, wealth, recognition.

As for Christ inheriting the nations, that is still to come.

BTW - "Son of David" is one of the titles given to the Messiah. "Son" in the Hebrew culture had meaning beyond being a first generation decendant, as it does in our culture.

This is a lil sketchy But didnt Isaiah say that "Immanuel" will inherit the nations and rule with an iron sceptre or whatever?

Yes - he will.

Wasnt Immanuel,David the Christ all the same?

Jesus is Immanuel, but David is not.

"Immanuel" was a name given in the prophecy of Isaiah - who lived several generations after David passed away. So there is no way that David could be Immanuel.

Also, David prophecied about the coming Messiah (Christ), so David cannot be the Christ.

When Christ supposedly came they say he was killed by his own and just inherited grief basically?

I take it you haven't read the New Testament, either.

John 10

14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. 15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd. 17 Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father."

Matthew 20

17 Now Jesus, going up to Jerusalem, took the twelve disciples aside on the road and said to them, 18 "Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and to the scribes; and they will condemn Him to death, 19 and deliver Him to the Gentiles to mock and to scourge and to crucify. And the third day He will rise again."

Philippians 2

5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. 9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

If the Babylonions took all the wealth then what was he gonna inherit if they had already taken it? So somebody is lying then huh?

Nope. You are looking to the wrong inheritance.

Jesus, speaking to Pilot:

Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here." (John 18:36)

Hebrew 1:1-3

1 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; 3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4 having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

Hebrews 12:2 - looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

[Leonard]

Hi David Escobar:

I'm going to recommend you read the brief books (each one is like a 'tract' really) of 1st and 2nd Samuel, and 1st and 2nd Kings. This will give you a good understanding of the History of Israel up to the time the Babylonians conquered them (586 B. C.).

Very briefly, a lot of the wealth King David laid up, he used as building materials for the Temple. Solomon his son also became quite wealthy, and for a few generations after them the country was quite wealthy. However wicked kings in subsequent times led to God slowly withdrawing His blessings on the nation, until it was just an impoverished fiefdom, and finally conquered by the Babylonians.

When the Scripture says Christ will inherit the nations, it means that the 'Kingdoms of this world' will 'become the Kingdoms of our God, and of His Christ!'

[irishcowboy]

a Carpenter was a skilled tradesman....

Joseph had to have some clout in his community for everyone to know him, and when Mary was with Child, she was left alone. she could have been stoned, shunned, put out as a harlot, but Joseph trusted enough in the Lord, and had enough clout he did not have to worry about what others said.....

I do not believe that Christ grew up poor, a poor person, especially a 12 year old, would not have been allowed to sit around with the rabbi's and talk with them, yet they were amaised at His Knowledge and Wisdom..... (that is until He started His ministry)

some say that He grew up poor, i do not believe so. some say it is because the sacrafice for him was a minimul sacrafice... this may have been more out of need because of distance from the Temple rather then out of destitution....

Paul was thought to be poor, but yet, if one studies his life, they will find out he gave up his comfort and wealth, to live for Christ... Paul being a man, well studied, well educated, and very zealous for the Law, that he thought he was doing God a favor in persecuting the Christian, until the Lord showed him differant... then he gave up the comforts and starte making tents to pay for the ministry he was placed in.

sanhedrin to tentmaker.. a Carpenter to Shepherd... a plumber to evangelist... a military officer with a wonderful future to a pastor of a small church... an executive to a street preacher with out walls.... a high school drop out to a witness... a nurse to a minister...

many more have stepped up to lower pay and worldly status, to trust in the Lord God for their needs and to share the Word of God to all that they meet.

the way of life Christ took, was of His Own Will and Accord, in order to please the Father above.

mike