Wives role in marriage

[followerofjesus]

There is a rebellion in someone who rejects submission to an authority. American women do not know the meaning of submission. Go to a third world country & see what true submission is. It is not easy to be an authority figure. As young men get older they find themself in leadership roles. Believe me its much easier to follow than it is to lead! When its your job to complete a certain duty & one of your people rebels it throws a monkeywrench into it. Now you not only are shouldering the responsiblity for everyone you have to deal w/ one problem that will not go away. It affects everyone. Everyone fails because that one person decides to be a rebel. In marriage we are to honor one another. Submitting to a spouse means to always stay faithful & help that person in whatever role you have for the betterment of the family. The wife has as much responsibilty in submitting to the husband in her duties in the family.Don't think for one second its better or easier to lead a family. I would tell you from experience its much harder. Instead of rebelling wives should be asking what more could they do for thier marriage or family.We should work harder not only being a slave but being a good slave.

[Floatingaxe]

Go to a third world country & see what true submission is.

Precisely! Third world countries for the most part continue in the age old tradition that women are chattel!

[Floatingaxe]

No, I meant "chattel", which means property or slave.

Blessings, micen! Love you too, brother!

[Smalcald]

Oh, I also should add that another thing girls should be taught is that even if God gives them a position of leadership and authority outside the home, she still (by God's original design) has an obligation to yield to her husband's authority and leadership inside the home. I think that having power and control outside the home (i.e. certain careers) can make it more difficult to relinquish that when you are in a marriage, but the difficulty does not negate it's importance. Nor does the difficulty mean that women can't overcome it. I know many couples where the wife and husband both have successful careers. Some of them are able to leave their career mentalities at the door when they come home, others struggle with it. But just like with the original sin, we all still struggle with wanting power and control. God's designed for order should've settled this issue, but of course in our sinful nature, we still tug back and forth.

Hi Tess thanks for your response.

This is how I see it also in general. I think staying at home and raising children is equal to other ways and choices women have, I couldn't agree more, and many times it is certainly the best choice by far.

The thing that was concerning me was that where exactly does are discussion lead us in this area of women and their role in society in general? I don't think scripture calls women to only stay home and raise their families children, I do think they can work outside of the home, be educated at the college level and have a husband, children and career. Also I think we need to raise our girls to not be relationship dependent. Meaning that the focus of their life on this earth is finding Prince Charming, and marriage. Women can and should be happy being single and independent, serving the Lord in this state, and I think this is well within scripture.

Even though I believe that scripture is clear on only males being Pastors, the women we see in scripture often were not married, often were indeed very important leaders, independent thinkers and evangelizers for the Lord.

The first evangelist proclaiming the Good News was a women.

[Floatingaxe]

Priscilla and Aquila were both married to each other and they were both pastors. Phoebe was also a pastor, or minister/servant of a church.

[apothanein kerdos]

Priscilla and Aquila were both married to each other and they were both pastors. Phoebe was also a pastor, or minister/servant of a church.

they were all deacons...not pastors

[Kabowd]

Oh, I also should add that another thing girls should be taught is that even if God gives them a position of leadership and authority outside the home, she still (by God's original design) has an obligation to yield to her husband's authority and leadership inside the home. I think that having power and control outside the home (i.e. certain careers) can make it more difficult to relinquish that when you are in a marriage, but the difficulty does not negate it's importance. Nor does the difficulty mean that women can't overcome it. I know many couples where the wife and husband both have successful careers. Some of them are able to leave their career mentalities at the door when they come home, others struggle with it. But just like with the original sin, we all still struggle with wanting power and control. God's designed for order should've settled this issue, but of course in our sinful nature, we still tug back and forth.

Hi Tess thanks for your response.

This is how I see it also in general. I think staying at home and raising children is equal to other ways and choices women have, I couldn't agree more, and many times it is certainly the best choice by far.

The thing that was concerning me was that where exactly does are discussion lead us in this area of women and their role in society in general? I don't think scripture calls women to only stay home and raise their families children, I do think they can work outside of the home, be educated at the college level and have a husband, children and career. Also I think we need to raise our girls to not be relationship dependent. Meaning that the focus of their life on this earth is finding Prince Charming, and marriage. Women can and should be happy being single and independent, serving the Lord in this state, and I think this is well within scripture.

Even though I believe that scripture is clear on only males being Pastors, the women we see in scripture often were not married, often were indeed very important leaders, independent thinkers and evangelizers for the Lord.

The first evangelist proclaiming the Good News was a women.

I agree with what you've said, the problem is..the feminist movement has confused the roles and developed strawmen arguments. No one here has stated that women cannot be strong leaders. No one has stated that women are incomplete apart from a man and no one has stated that women cannot have authority outside the home or church. This is how they (the feminists) have confused the issue. Scripturally speaking, women are equal to men in value and usefulness, and perfectly capable of all types of leadership. There is just a design and order that God laid out to be followed. That order clearly shows that within marriage/home, and within the church..the male is the authority figure, not females. It doesn't exactly thrill me either, lol, but it's the way it is. And I understand enough about God to know that He designed order for a purpose and He takes rebellion VERY seriously. So whether I like it or not, or wish I could explain it away to ease my flesh...it doesn't change the fact that it's clearly recorded (in various places) and it's something women should bring themselves to accept. I'm still working on the appreciating it part, ha. But I do understand it and know that it only brings grief to reject it.

[Floatingaxe]

Priscilla and Aquila were both married to each other and they were both pastors. Phoebe was also a pastor, or minister/servant of a church.

they were all deacons...not pastors

Deacons were pastors of that day--in fact, minister/servants. God either had said they cannot be pastors or He is a liar, as women have held leadership and authority positions in the Church since the beginning. I choose to believe, like Paul, that God institutes women in the same roles as men, as we are all equal before Him, and equally gifted by the Holy Spirit to carry out His work. The Holy Spirit is no respecter of persons. Amen.

[apothanein kerdos]

Priscilla and Aquila were both married to each other and they were both pastors. Phoebe was also a pastor, or minister/servant of a church.

they were all deacons...not pastors

Deacons were pastors of that day--in fact, minister/servants. God either had said they cannot be pastors or He is a liar, as women have held leadership and authority positions in the Church since the beginning.

No they weren't. There are different words for pastors. diakoneo was a deacon, while an episkope was a pastor.

Geeze...have you studied early church history. Deacons were the furthest thing from pastors.

You really are batting zero, especially saying women have been in authority since the foundation of the church. In fact, prove that they have. Cite historical documenation from the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th centuries proving women were in authority.

[Floatingaxe]

I believe you are mistaken.