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I have no problem with wives being submissive to their husbands. Christian submission as Paul states it is a good and beautiful thing. It is something that we are ALL to express to ONE ANOTHER.

I do have a problem with it being defined as obedience, or obedience to authority, and for women, children, and slaves only.

I am also of the same mind and heart in this. (In case some were wondering!)

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For the purpose of clarification, I'd like to point out that some have been calling those who disagree with them "feminists". I find this disrespectful. Unless someone tells us their stance on that we've no right to lable them. So I'll just tell you right now that I am NOT a feminist. I'm a mostly Reformed , four point Calvinist, Charismatic, non cessationist, Baptist (but mostly non denominational in preference), evangelical, creed-reciting ,liturgically minded, philsophical, Christian scholar of the Scriptures who strongly believes in complementarity.

If I'm going to be called an authoritarian then it's fair to throw "feminist" back out there.

Let me also clear up that I have no problem with wives being submissive to their husbands. Christian submission as Paul states it is a good and beautiful thing. It is something that we are ALL to express to ONE ANOTHER.

I do have a problem with it being defined as obedience, or obedience to authority, and for women, children, and slaves only. Those are the parameters of my discussion on it.

Do you agree, though, that the husband is the head of the house...in that he is the head of the relationship. Not in an authoritarian manner, but in the way that Christ is the head of the church.


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For the second time.

PLEASE stop with the "can women be pastors" stuff.

You keep saying ok but you keep doing it.

AK,

Do you agree, though, that the husband is the head of the house...in that he is the head of the relationship. Not in an authoritarian manner, but in the way that Christ is the head of the church.

Husband IS the head of the household.

I do believe there is a type of authority there.


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It wasn

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One thought I am reminded of this moment regarding Ephesians 5:23 about the word kephale is that husbands are never told 'to be' the kephale in marriage, the home, or of the wife and neither does the Bible say that the husband IS the kephale of the marriage or home but rather the Bible precisely says that the husband IS the head of the wife. I see a big difference in the biblical statement when compared to a popular interpretation of it being for example, 'the husband is to be, act as the head' of the relationship, the home or the wife. I notice that husbands are never counseled to be the 'head' of anything but rather one just IS the kephale of the wife.

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I see it as a command as well.

But I do it out of love, joyfully

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http://www.biblebb.com/files/MAC/WIFEROLE.HTM

Let's talk about the duty of the wife and look at verses 22 to 24: the duty of the wife. I want you to stay with me, for I think this is very needful for our time. Basically, it says "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord." I want to just remind you as I said earlier, the word "submit" is not here, it really reads: "Wives, yourselves unto your own husbands." In other words, you do your submitting to your husbands. It's implied there, but the idea is very general: "wives," that's it. Not, "wives whose husbands are fulfilling their functions." Not, "blue-eyed wives," not "blond or brown hair wives," not "wives who feel that this is the best thing for you to do." "Wives,

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