Rise of Fascism

[Arialia]

we will reign with Christ for 1000 years here on earth.

And what happens to the rest of us at that point? Are we in hell, or are we all being ruled by Christians?

May I be blunt? You'll be in the lake of fire forever....unless you repent of your sins now....

Anita

May I be blunt?

Atheists just don't believe this. You could have everyone in their towns telling us this and we still won't care. So even though you're trying to save us, it doesn't work. If it were that simple to just have to hear a Christian and suddenly be like "omg, you're right," most atheists wouldn't be so today.

I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just saying that you'll have to do more than tell us to turn or burn.

[cjrose]

Well it's not doing what Jesus told it to do either!

You're so right.

Anyway, I can't even get my dog to do what I tell him to.

Obviously he has no respect for your "authority" if he won't do what you tell him. My dogs listens and obeys because I spent time with her as a puppy to respect our home and all she asks for in return is love.

[cjrose]

May I be blunt?

Atheists just don't believe this. You could have everyone in their towns telling us this and we still won't care. So even though you're trying to save us, it doesn't work. If it were that simple to just have to hear a Christian and suddenly be like "omg, you're right," most atheists wouldn't be so today.

I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just saying that you'll have to do more than tell us to turn or burn.

Why are you here then? To stir up trouble or are you searching for something?

[Arialia]

May I be blunt?

Atheists just don't believe this. You could have everyone in their towns telling us this and we still won't care. So even though you're trying to save us, it doesn't work. If it were that simple to just have to hear a Christian and suddenly be like "omg, you're right," most atheists wouldn't be so today.

I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just saying that you'll have to do more than tell us to turn or burn.

Why are you here then? To stir up trouble or are you searching for something?

Cause I want to be here =S Because I can.

[Pax]

I fear the rise of of a form of Christian Fundamentalist Fascism in this country. Does anyone else agree that seperation of church and state is an all important part of our consitutional rights? I can only hope that liberals and moderate conservatives can see clearly this threat to civil liberties. I have grown up believing in the individual freedoms that not too long ago I took for granted. But organizations like the Christian Coalition seem to have an agenda to impose their own idea of morality and values on the rest of us. I am very suspicious of a religious group that becomes so political in this country! And how we have stood by and let it happen...Politics and religion should never be allowed to mix. I hope we americans never see the day when the church once again becomes the strong arm of the law! Maybe I sound paranoid, but think about Nazi Germany in the early 1930's...far fetched you say? The dangerous world we live in seems to be the perfect breeding ground for religious fanatics! The silver lining to all this is so far we have a right to speak out in America and protest peacefully. Even forums such as this can be a start for these issues to be discussed.---And Now!

Comparring the Christian coalition to Nazis?? Boy thats a real stretch. You might recall the Nazis killed millions and millions of people. They also were no followers of Jesus Christ or any religion for that matter. Why do Christians have to get involved with politics? That a real simple question to answer, because our politicians create and pass laws that are against the moral good of society. Abortion is the easiest example to show but there are others. We live in a country where a women can walk into a clinic and kill an unborn human life in the third trimester. We aren't talking about killing a unborn baby 12 weeks into a pregnency but rather talking a human life that is minutes away from being fully born and sticking a pair of scissors in the back on the neck of the baby and terminanting a life. (This is clearly murder and if that same pregnant women walked into a gas station and was killed during a robbery the robber would be tried on two counts of murder, so you tell me wants the difference?) When put in these terms, most people would say thats sick and might add very Nazi like. So what do we do as people of this great country, sit back and say hey keep killing babies we aren't going to get involved. No we vote for pro-life politicians who have the common sense to realize that killing babies is very bad. Groups such as the Christian coalition are leading the fight on such moral issues.

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So just answer this one question are you o.k. with a doctor killing a perfectly innoncent child in the third trimester (or any trimester for that matter) because this is what the mother wants?

[cjrose]

May I be blunt?

Atheists just don't believe this. You could have everyone in their towns telling us this and we still won't care. So even though you're trying to save us, it doesn't work. If it were that simple to just have to hear a Christian and suddenly be like "omg, you're right," most atheists wouldn't be so today.

I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just saying that you'll have to do more than tell us to turn or burn.

Why are you here then? To stir up trouble or are you searching for something?

Cause I want to be here =S Because I can.

Okay, that makes a lot of sense

[Guest drbelitz]

I fear the rise of of a form of Christian Fundamentalist Fascism in this country. Does anyone else agree that seperation of church and state is an all important part of our consitutional rights? I can only hope that liberals and moderate conservatives can see clearly this threat to civil liberties. I have grown up believing in the individual freedoms that not too long ago I took for granted. But organizations like the Christian Coalition seem to have an agenda to impose their own idea of morality and values on the rest of us. I am very suspicious of a religious group that becomes so political in this country! And how we have stood by and let it happen...Politics and religion should never be allowed to mix. I hope we americans never see the day when the church once again becomes the strong arm of the law! Maybe I sound paranoid, but think about Nazi Germany in the early 1930's...far fetched you say? The dangerous world we live in seems to be the perfect breeding ground for religious fanatics! The silver lining to all this is so far we have a right to speak out in America and protest peacefully. Even forums such as this can be a start for these issues to be discussed.---And Now!

The morals and values that this country was founded upon were by far the norm in america until after the 1960s with contraception being accepted and then abortion. Since these two terrible sins have been allowed to freely take place, we see the family being broken up, first by the use of contraception and the sex on demand mentality, sex with no responsibility, and then with that causing the legalization of abortion. Once you have made it clear that women are to be used as sexual objects by using birth control, then you diminish their dignity and importance and the sacredness of the marital act. The moral norm then gets foggy and you decide that killing your baby before it can be born is okay also.

The root of abortion is contraception, and the root of both is sin nature.

Divorce is what follows both of these, as we can readily see in the western world, since these two sins have been accepted, even by christians, the divorce rate has gone from less than 10% in this nation to almost half in 50 short years.

[Pax]

I fear the rise of of a form of Christian Fundamentalist Fascism in this country. Does anyone else agree that seperation of church and state is an all important part of our consitutional rights? I can only hope that liberals and moderate conservatives can see clearly this threat to civil liberties. I have grown up believing in the individual freedoms that not too long ago I took for granted. But organizations like the Christian Coalition seem to have an agenda to impose their own idea of morality and values on the rest of us. I am very suspicious of a religious group that becomes so political in this country! And how we have stood by and let it happen...Politics and religion should never be allowed to mix. I hope we americans never see the day when the church once again becomes the strong arm of the law! Maybe I sound paranoid, but think about Nazi Germany in the early 1930's...far fetched you say? The dangerous world we live in seems to be the perfect breeding ground for religious fanatics! The silver lining to all this is so far we have a right to speak out in America and protest peacefully. Even forums such as this can be a start for these issues to be discussed.---And Now!

The morals and values that this country was founded upon were by far the norm in america until after the 1960s with contraception being accepted and then abortion. Since these two terrible sins have been allowed to freely take place, we see the family being broken up, first by the use of contraception and the sex on demand mentality, sex with no responsibility, and then with that causing the legalization of abortion. Once you have made it clear that women are to be used as sexual objects by using birth control, then you diminish their dignity and importance and the sacredness of the marital act. The moral norm then gets foggy and you decide that killing your baby before it can be born is okay also.

The root of abortion is contraception, and the root of both is sin nature.

Divorce is what follows both of these, as we can readily see in the western world, since these two sins have been accepted, even by christians, the divorce rate has gone from less than 10% in this nation to almost half in 50 short years.

This is a great post. The pro-life people need to understand that contraception was the begining of abortion. The Supreme Court had to allow abortion in case of contraception failure. Very few Christians understand the evils of contraception and as I have written on here many times, every Christian denomination was against any form of birth control until the 1930's when the Presbyterian Church allowed for contraception in extreme cases. All other denominations were appauled by this. Eventually every other denomination gave into this mentality and now contraception is common place and used out of convience. What has this done to society???? Higher divorce rate, higher teenage pregnancy rate, higher rate of std's, increase of abortion (I thought contraception was to prevent this). There is only one Christian Church that is still opposed to contraception and views its use as a sin.

[Guest drbelitz]

I fear the rise of of a form of Christian Fundamentalist Fascism in this country. Does anyone else agree that seperation of church and state is an all important part of our consitutional rights? I can only hope that liberals and moderate conservatives can see clearly this threat to civil liberties. I have grown up believing in the individual freedoms that not too long ago I took for granted. But organizations like the Christian Coalition seem to have an agenda to impose their own idea of morality and values on the rest of us. I am very suspicious of a religious group that becomes so political in this country! And how we have stood by and let it happen...Politics and religion should never be allowed to mix. I hope we americans never see the day when the church once again becomes the strong arm of the law! Maybe I sound paranoid, but think about Nazi Germany in the early 1930's...far fetched you say? The dangerous world we live in seems to be the perfect breeding ground for religious fanatics! The silver lining to all this is so far we have a right to speak out in America and protest peacefully. Even forums such as this can be a start for these issues to be discussed.---And Now!

The morals and values that this country was founded upon were by far the norm in america until after the 1960s with contraception being accepted and then abortion. Since these two terrible sins have been allowed to freely take place, we see the family being broken up, first by the use of contraception and the sex on demand mentality, sex with no responsibility, and then with that causing the legalization of abortion. Once you have made it clear that women are to be used as sexual objects by using birth control, then you diminish their dignity and importance and the sacredness of the marital act. The moral norm then gets foggy and you decide that killing your baby before it can be born is okay also.

The root of abortion is contraception, and the root of both is sin nature.

Divorce is what follows both of these, as we can readily see in the western world, since these two sins have been accepted, even by christians, the divorce rate has gone from less than 10% in this nation to almost half in 50 short years.

This is a great post. The pro-life people need to understand that contraception was the begining of abortion. The Supreme Court had to allow abortion in case of contraception failure. Very few Christians understand the evils of contraception and as I have written on here many times, every Christian denomination was against any form of birth control until the 1930's when the Presbyterian Church allowed for contraception in extreme cases. All other denominations were appauled by this. Eventually every other denomination gave into this mentality and now contraception is common place and used out of convience. What has this done to society???? Higher divorce rate, higher teenage pregnancy rate, higher rate of std's, increase of abortion (I thought contraception was to prevent this). There is only one Christian Church that is still opposed to contraception and views its use as a sin.

agreed, of course.

the church was the anglican episcopalian church in europe that allowed contraception first in 1929, but you basically had it.

[apothanein kerdos]

Does anyone realize that it was the belief in Darwinian evolution that created Facism in the first place?

John, name one athiestic nation that has brought about good things for its citizens. Thus far we have Nazie Germany, the USSR, the People's Republic of China, and Fidel's Cuba.....all of them are founded upon secularism and atheistic notions......so what good has come out of them? Shall I also point to modern Europe which is seeing an increase in racism and poverty the more it adopts athiestic tendencies in governing?

Simple challenge.