God Does Not Categorize Sin But Society Does

[Guest lovinghim4ever]

I posted this somewhere else under the name of Tnua, but I can't seem to find that account now. So, I created a new account and would like to post this again.

A while back Totally Confused asked this question "Is it right to condemn any form of love? If God created man, didn't He also create homosexual people, too? People are born gay, bi, or lesbian, they do not choose there sexual orientation. Shouldn't all love be considered a blessing?"

First of all, NO, I am not gay. I simply am trying to understand why gays are so mistreated; especially by Christians who are suppose to love them as Christ loves us. I know this is very controversial, but here's my response . . .

(Sin vs. Sin) or for the sake of this discussion (Homosexuality vs. Adultery)

I begin with 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that says,

[Candi770]

True but sin will get the same reward: Death. No compromise- sin is sin- No tolerance. Because if someone was tolerant with me, I wouldn't be a christian today- I had to realize I was a sinner in need of a savior.

Yes we are to love those, but we must speak the truth that the Holy Spirit leads us to speak (in Love)

We should love the human, hate the sin.

God's not going to lead us all to the same people, He may lead me to speak to someone who is going through something he has brought me through. Likewise, he would probably, but not always, lead someone who has been there done that and found victory in Jesus. So we should only be obedient to the Holy Spirit concerning evangilism, but by all means with all people we should walk in the Love of Jesus at all other times.

Blessings

candi

[KeilanS]

You've identified a different problem then you planned to I think.

Christians going into marriage thinking "I can just divorce" is a sin. Thats the wrong part.

Adultery is a sin. Homosexuality is a sin. Lying is a sin. Stealing is a sin. It's all in the same catagory, SIN.

As Christian's, we should make an effort not to sin. This means we should not divorce for reasons besides marital unfaithfulness, we should not steal, we should not lie and we should not be homosexual.

Your acting like adultery is okay in your post... it is not, neither is homosexuality...

I'm not sure exactly what kind of answer your looking for, let me know if you need me to explain this post.

Just an edit to clarify my thoughts on your unconditional love comments. Yes we should always love a homosexual person, this does not mean their sin is justifiable, just that we love them in spite of their mistakes.

[Guest lovinghim4ever]

True enough. I agree with you. I guess what I am trying to say is that I am simply very frustrated with Christians today who condemn the sin of others but somehow justify their own.

[Guest lovinghim4ever]

You've identified a different problem then you planned to I think.

Christians going into marriage thinking "I can just divorce" is a sin. Thats the wrong part.

Adultery is a sin. Homosexuality is a sin. Lying is a sin. Stealing is a sin. It's all in the same catagory, SIN.

As Christian's, we should make an effort not to sin. This means we should not divorce for reasons besides marital unfaithfulness, we should not steal, we should not lie and we should not be homosexual.

Your acting like adultery is okay in your post... it is not, neither is homosexuality...

I'm not sure exactly what kind of answer your looking for, let me know if you need me to explain this post.

Just an edit to clarify my thoughts on your unconditional love comments. Yes we should always love a homosexual person, this does not mean their sin is justifiable, just that we love them in spite of their mistakes.

Sorry I confused you, but no I am not acting like adultery is okay. I am saying that the majority of society (some Christians included) are acting as though homosexuality is sin but adulter is not.

[KeilanS]

True enough. I agree with you. I guess what I am trying to say is that I am simply very frustrated with Christians today who condemn the sin of others but somehow justify their own.

That is fair, just about all Christians do this in one way or another. It's so easy to say that I'm not a murderer, adulterer or homosexual, I just told a little lie... hardly a sin at all! Thats an easy way to justify our sins, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a sin and just as bad as any other sin.

Here is an article written by a man named John Fischer on the subject (Justifying Sins). It's not long and I found it to be a good read.

http://www.purposedrivenlife.com/devarchiv...?ARCHIVEID=1848

[Naziyr]

There is a difference in sin though... Sinning against others, and Sinning against self.

When you take part in sexual sins, you defile yourself and sin against yourself. When you take part in any other sin, you sin against another.

Fornication = Defiling yourself, sinning against yourself

Murder = Killing someone else, sinning against them

See the difference?

But no, homosexuality should NOT be viewed with more or less awareness and reprimand than Adultery, Idolotry, etc. etc. for people were Killed equally for breaking even one of the 10 commandments in the times of old.

Usually though, the lack of awareness comes from Christians preaching we are free from the Torah, when we're not.

Shalom

[Guest lovinghim4ever]

True enough. I agree with you. I guess what I am trying to say is that I am simply very frustrated with Christians today who condemn the sin of others but somehow justify their own.

That is fair, just about all Christians do this in one way or another. It's so easy to say that I'm not a murderer, adulterer or homosexual, I just told a little lie... hardly a sin at all! Thats an easy way to justify our sins, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a sin and just as bad as any other sin.

Here is an article written by a man named John Fischer on the subject (Justifying Sins). It's not long and I found it to be a good read.

http://www.purposedrivenlife.com/devarchiv...?ARCHIVEID=1848

Thanks! I read that article. I needed that.

[Guest lovinghim4ever]

There is a difference in sin though... Sinning against others, and Sinning against self.

When you take part in sexual sins, you defile yourself and sin against yourself. When you take part in any other sin, you sin against another.

Fornication = Defiling yourself, sinning against yourself

Murder = Killing someone else, sinning against them

See the difference?

But no, homosexuality should NOT be viewed with more or less awareness and reprimand than Adultury, Idolotry, etc. etc. for people were Killed equally for breaking even one of the 10 commandments in the times of old.

Usually though, the lack of awareness comes from Christians preaching we are free from the Torah, when we're not.

Shalom

Yes, I see that difference, but sin is still sin; whether it is sin against ourselves or sin against others.

[KeilanS]

I would actually say that adultery is worse than homosexuality. Adultery is two sins. It is the sin of adultery, and 99% of the time it is the Sin of Lying. Adultery is a combination of sins, not a single sin.

That is an interesting point... but I have to wonder, does it matter if it's one sin or two? Whether we sin once or sin twice, we've still missed the mark, we earned the death penalty. (Jesus saved us thankfully). However I think that if it's two sins but one "act" if you will, it's not really any different then one sin.

Also, by your thinking, homosexuality is (sometimes) many sins becauses for those who are actively homosexual it is how they live their life, not just an isolated act. This is different of course, for someone who struggles with it and is trying their best to free themselves of it. And you can stack some more sins onto it, I'm thinking that a person who either committing adultery or being a homosexual will experiance lustfull thoughts, which is another sin...

It is my thought that any sin (or sinful act which may involve several sins) is weighted the same way...

However, I don't mean to be too picky here, all things considered, this is a fairly unimportant point.

God Bless,

Keilan