How old is your church?

[Douay]

Since when is assessing the situation flamming?

[Guest Angeledei]

I could really care less about your background,

Wow. nice. thanks.

1. You come here and ask to have discussion on the difference of Catholicism(sp) and Protestantism. You (along with a few others) then proceed to bash, belittle, and harrass anyone that gives contrary opinion to you!

Goes for your above quote brother.

You don't even concider any Scripture references that seem to speak against what you are teaching!!! This does not boad well for you and your insistence of friendly and loving debate!

RIght back atcha!

I know you will reject this...and I pray you don't...but I will not be lookiing at this thread again as this issue will never end.

Seems to me you have said this before....

You would do well to study how to debate properly

Wow! You REALLY need to take your own advice!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!

How does that feel?

I USED to be Protestant I KNOW OF WHAT I SPEAK! So it feels just fine thanks! Have you ever been Catholic? I am not stabbing in the dark on issues of Protestanism - I LIVED THEM FOR CLOSE TO TEN YEARS! You don't have a leg to stand on!

He is simply asking for Biblical documentation for what you believe.

Right. I told him I would give him DETAILED responses and HE REFUSED! He DOESN'T WANT TO KNOW AT ALL! Go back and RE-READ friend!

Replies such as this make me think that you don't have any references and are hiding it by (flamming) another poster.

Is flamming the same as flaming?

SAINT Matthew 5:15

Neither do men light a candle and put it under a bushel, but upon a candlestick, that it may shine to all that are in the house. No one here is home I suppose.

I can really see your attempt at learning what we believe and why we believe it.

I DON'T HAVE TO "LEARN" IT - I LIVED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! No thank you.

[Guest Angeledei]

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle; be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do you, O prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God, cast into Hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

[refugepsa91]

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle; be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do you, O prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God, cast into Hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

:x: :x: :x: hmmmm a prayer but not a prayer to God :x: :x: :x:

[Guest Angeledei]

And you point is.........................................................................

[Adstar]

I am beginning to believe the only cathlolics we can reach are those who have come to the knowledge that their faith is false. It is clear that Angeledei has not come here with that knowledge. Angeledei has come here to covert people to the catholic religion. I cannot see what profit there is in continuing to persevere with one who refuses to hear.

All praise The Ancient Of Days

refugepsa91

    hmmmm a prayer but not a prayer to God   

Yes it is clear isn't it.

[refugepsa91]

I pray to only the Lord.....no one and nothing else....but I guess that is my choice....my life...my belief. :il:

Love and Blessings,

Angel H.

[jesusislord]

amen brothers and sisters ....... PRAY ONLY TO GOD.... JESUS SAID THAT IN THE LORD'S EXAMPLE OF A PRAYER.... WHEN HE SADI PRAY IN THIS MATTER....... OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN HALLOW(JOLY) IS THY NAME....

FOR GOD IS THE ONLY ONE THAT DESERVES BOWING TO AND WORSHIPPING.......

I AM THROUGH WITH THIS THREAD.... I SEE THAT WHAT THE LORD IS TRUE. ABOUT DEBATING...... IT CASUES STRIFE AND CONFLICT.

I WILL NOT MORE POST ON THIS THREAD OR ANYOTHER CATHOLIC THREAD ......... I NOR ANY OF US NEED THE CONFLICT AND THE OBVIOUS TWISTING OT THE WORD AS I HAVE SEEN IT .........

MAY THE LORD BLESS ALL OF YOU TRUE BORN AGAN CHRISTIANS.

BYE NOW

[Bill]

Someone answer me this:

If Catholics don't pray to saints, as they so vehemently deny they do, what was that I just saw?

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Religion kills. Christ is life.

[Guest yod]

You know I need to ask this: What do you say of those saints and doctors of the Church who lived prior to the Protestant REVOLT? THere was only ONE Christian Church prior to Luther. Is this to be dismissed or covered up like it never was?

Not true!

There was the ORIGINAL church of Jerusalem known as the "Nazerites" or "Followers of the Way". These jewish believers included James, Peter (who was under the authority of James - Acts 15), Jude, and all the other names at the top of the page in the New Testament. YOUR church fathers descended from Antioch, not Jerusalem.

When Constantine (Ruler of Rome) became infatuated by the power of "religion", he called the Nicean Council of 325 AD and KILLED the jewish remnant in the church by forbidding them to be jewish. A very small remnant lasted into the 14th Century before disappearing.

So, even IF the catholic church went back that far (which it doesn't) it would not be the FIRST church.

My experience is the exact opposite of yours. I was in the catholic church for years just as you were in the protestant branch of baptists.

There were just so many discrepancies and contradictions that it turned me into an atheist for 15 years.

Like the fantastic lie of transubstantiation. How can anyone with a brain believe that crap?

Do you really think a cracker and grape juice has turned into flesh and blood just because some council of men said so in the 13th century?

it is easy to prove otherwise if YOU want to see the truth.